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Ok so, I was reading Lt Gen PC Katoch's book on India's Special Forces

And he proposes an Idea of Indian Special Operations Command,
here we have a structure like this:
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Now, this is what he says about the concept of Special Forces Teams and Special Forces Training School.
He talks about ISFC to be a Tri Services command.

"The organisation of ISFC to start with should be about two battalion worth that can be expanded upon subsequently. The initial groupings of Special Forces Teams (SFTs) may individually comprise of anything from 25 to 50 per country or region specific operatives, duly prioritized. The size of the individual SFT will depend upon the country / region and its relative importance in terms of national security objectives. They should have institutionalised access to integrated intelligence, varied insertion and extraction capability and adequate support elements. The Insertion-Extraction Group should have the means to deliver and extract the SFTs through air, surface and underwater. It would be prudent to commence specialised training and preparation with some 300-350 operatives only. "

"In keeping with future requirements, it would be prudent to convert the SFTS to a Tri-Service establishment (as mentioned earlier), rename it as MSFTS (Military Special Forces Training School) and place it, along with its adjunct Naval Special Warfare Tactical Training Centre directly under the proposed Tri-Service Special Forces Command / Commando Command. "

I think AFSOD is just this. But you can take that with a grain of salt considering how our system works and the fact that an airborne officer is commanding it
 

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Ok so, I was reading Lt Gen PC Katoch's book on India's Special Forces

And he proposes an Idea of Indian Special Operations Command,
here we have a structure like this:
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Now, this is what he says about the concept of Special Forces Teams and Special Forces Training School.
He talks about ISFC to be a Tri Services command.

"The organisation of ISFC to start with should be about two battalion worth that can be expanded upon subsequently. The initial groupings of Special Forces Teams (SFTs) may individually comprise of anything from 25 to 50 per country or region specific operatives, duly prioritized. The size of the individual SFT will depend upon the country / region and its relative importance in terms of national security objectives. They should have institutionalised access to integrated intelligence, varied insertion and extraction capability and adequate support elements. The Insertion-Extraction Group should have the means to deliver and extract the SFTs through air, surface and underwater. It would be prudent to commence specialised training and preparation with some 300-350 operatives only. "

"In keeping with future requirements, it would be prudent to convert the SFTS to a Tri-Service establishment (as mentioned earlier), rename it as MSFTS (Military Special Forces Training School) and place it, along with its adjunct Naval Special Warfare Tactical Training Centre directly under the proposed Tri-Service Special Forces Command / Commando Command. "

I think AFSOD is just this. But you can take that with a grain of salt considering how our system works and the fact that an airborne officer is commanding it
AFSOD isn't 10% of what is proposed in this excerpt. It definitely doesn't have an R&D cell or an Intelligence Cell. As far as I understand, AFSOD is nothing but a congregation of operators from all the 3 forces. Nothing special. Just an experiment to integrate the SFs of the 3 branches together.
 

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notice the device(smartphone/tablet) strapped to his hand

maybe just maybe it has ATAK or something similar.........
Not maybe. It is a similar system. It helps you navigate your jump to the intended drop zone and also has provisions to track the operators who have such individual devices on them. It really isn't something too extraordinary. For a country like India, it's way too easy to develop that tech. Hell, I can do that as my final year project.
And afaik, these have been spotted before in Para SF and MARCOS displays.
 

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It’s weird and very outdated to see Indian units still jumping with non-ballistic/non-combat helmets. This is the kind of thing units in the West ditched ~30 years ago
For non - external oxygen jumps they use protec bump helmets (some units use FAST bump helmets as well).

For the jumps that require oxygen, the standard issue helmet for that purpose is HGU-55/P.
The reason being the incompatibility of the current oxygen system (MN 20/P) to get rigged with a Ballistic/Non Ballistic helmet with rails. Rigging is the single most important aspect of a high altitude jump, every single detail has to be sharp, jugaads and/or improvisation are a big no no.

MARCOs have started inducting SOLR Oxygen Mask which is compatible with their HCBH/Non Ballistic helmets with rail.
 

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You do realize that a mutiny is the most shameful and disgraceful thing a soldier can do? In a functioning army like ours, the farthest that any "mutiny" has gone is few scattered cases of fratricide, which were unconnected and impulsive.

It sounds good to shout out the most radical solutions to problems, but its better to step back and use your brain for a minute. You know whats the most likely way SF will be upgraded? Not by some fantasy mutiny or anything, but by a forward thinking officer becoming COAS or CDS.
Rather than a mutiny, some logical thinking ex SF guys should form a group and do a televised protest like khujliwal and focus the media attention on the abysmal condition of our SF equipment wise as well as the internal pathetic politics of IA in disallowing a seperate SF regiment. Create a huge noise in SM,MSM etc....force the govt to take action and create a separate SF division. Left to IA it's never going to happen
 

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Rather than a mutiny, some logical thinking ex SF guys should form a group and do a televised protest like khujliwal and focus the media attention on the abysmal condition of our SF equipment wise as well as the internal pathetic politics of IA in disallowing a seperate SF regiment. Create a huge noise in SM,MSM etc....force the govt to take action and create a separate SF division. Left to IA it's never going to happen
That really is not the solution. Anyone who tries that stunt will be made an example out of and I'm pretty sure, noone will make any changes.
 

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This may explain the mortar on camel’s back seen in the forum some time ago. It’s used only for transportation.

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ATV , SDR and advanced GPS tracking left chat
*Technology had never seen such bullshit before*

Someone needs to explain them the reason why gadgets fail to perform is lack of optimal resources, repair stations and proper regional connectivity, which is a sign of failed Military dominance in the region .


Sometimes I can't stop but laugh the obliviousness our military display .
The Indian naivety is Peak , comedy
 

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