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Hafiz Saeed is enjoying his life in Pakistan but Osama Bin Laden is dead. Tells you something about our capabilities.
the comparison is not a good one. Pakistan was never going to go to war with US over abbotobad. Imagine the cost if india does something so public on paki soil

There’s a school of thought that India only acts when the costs (economic of political) of not doing so outweigh those of acting.

Given the relative stability india enjoys internally there perhaps isn’t the need to go ‘kinetic’. Rather it is more beneficial long term to infiltrate and co-opt

Look up Adrian levy’s video on the R&AW thread on DFI, indian IC are no fools.
 

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LoL, You know the day he gets droppt by India our diplomatic pressure and burden on Pakistan will be lessened, the reason he’s still alive is because his existence allows us to exert pressure on porkiland, otherwise R&AW showed him in Johar Town blast that we can neutralise him at will anytime anywhere.
I can see some truth to this.

HS, MA, DI etc being alive and well in Pakistan builds a much stronger case against Pak vis a vis terror support. Pakistan is basically a pariah state at this point and India is the poor inept victim of their aggression, or so india would have you believe.

Bruce Ridel (former CIA)- ‘the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist and the greatest trick India ever pulled was convincing the world it was benign’
 

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I can see some truth to this.

HS, MA, DI etc being alive and well in Pakistan builds a much stronger case against Pak vis a vis terror support. Pakistan is basically a pariah state at this point and India is the poor inept victim of their aggression, or so india would have you believe.

Bruce Ridel (former CIA)- ‘the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist and the greatest trick India ever pulled was convincing the world it was benign’
The only other thing to add is that Pakistan is a near Peer power to us , is nuclear and shares a border with us. If you look at our Orbat vis-a-vis Pakistan you will see that we don't not hold any numerical superiority over them.
 

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The only other thing to add is that Pakistan is a near Peer power to us , is nuclear and shares a border with us. If you look at our Orbat vis-a-vis Pakistan you will see that we don't not hold any numerical superiority over them.
Near peer to us in nuclear ? No way Pakistan doesn't come any way near us when it comes to nuclear technology the only thing they are better at is green painting chinese weapons.

We don't really need to hold any numerical superiority against porkis they are proxy of China so we should better focus on master. IBG, theatre commands ,superior fire power and foreign reserve will ensure a guaranteed victory against inbreds.
 

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I can see some truth to this.

HS, MA, DI etc being alive and well in Pakistan builds a much stronger case against Pak vis a vis terror support. Pakistan is basically a pariah state at this point and India is the poor inept victim of their aggression, or so india would have you believe.

Bruce Ridel (former CIA)- ‘the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist and the greatest trick India ever pulled was convincing the world it was benign’
Don't you think if keeping HS,MA,DI alive is really hurting pakistan bad, they would themselves kill these terrorists?
 

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Near peer to us in nuclear ? No way Pakistan doesn't come any way near us when it comes to nuclear technology the only thing they are better at is green painting chinese weapons.

We don't really need to hold any numerical superiority against porkis they are proxy of China so we should better focus on master. IBG, theatre commands ,superior fire power and foreign reserve will ensure a guaranteed victory against inbreds.
Near peer power in the spectrum of combat. It's not about technology. We have to cater to the entire spectrum of warfare with respect to Pakistan. Missle, tanks submarines, nukes, artillery, tanks.

They are to us what the Chinese are to the Americans.
 

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The issues of the present day are not AF centric. They are budget centric. If you look at the tip of the spear. MKI, M2KUPG, Mig29UPG, Rafale, LCA, Darin I/III, MiG-21upg/Bisons not too shabby just low in number.

Our strategic lift is probably the best in Asia.

SAM/ELINT/AWACS/EW also pretty good

CAT + AI driven networked warfare will add a new dimension which will make up for the lower numbers.
Wasn't the IAF not much interested in acquiring AWACS but realised only after Balakot that they need them in greater numbers ? Much similiar to IA realising BMP upgrades are required after the clash with Chinks ? (This is OT btw)
 

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Wasn't the IAF not much interested in acquiring AWACS but realised only after Balakot that they need them in greater numbers ? Much similiar to IA realising BMP upgrades are required after the clash with Chinks ? (This is OT btw)
Hmmm the IAF has always wanted AWACS. The interest or understanding what the NETRA could offer was in question. Post the balakot/27th the netra proved its weight in gold. Now we are getting more
 

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