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Best way to foil infiltration is by attaching 2 hand grenades manually detonable on a racing drone which goes near the target and explodes and it will save lives on our side.



And regarding your BAT

While your overhyped Paki army BAT regularly fucked.View attachment 100374

This pic was clicked by IA drone when those paki pigs were butchered in an LMG fire.
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Lmao, porkies have overhyped them, because their ISPeeR hides their casualties else the number of BAT we have beheaded is more than the number of balls porkistan army has.

Lmao
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Lmao look at this pig
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These BAT came to “be-head” Indian Soldies, but Indian Army “be-dicked” them.
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Lmao look at these inbreds being used as footballs
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Nagas born warriors, went for hunting and came back. Lmao look at that ugly pig.
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These subhuman porkistanis should be beheaded whenever killed, and then send the footage to their bastard generals, can’t share more pics or porkies will die lmao.
32 porki heads were chopped off in kukri attack by Indian Army.
 

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This is a story that I found about SEALs, a bit OT but I think it is interesting so adding it here:

Was just lurking on /k/, which is mostly filled with American gun-wielding neckbeards and few veterans along with shills from other countries. One thing i found that was a constant among them was their hate for SEALs for being drama queens and over-glorified to a point of outright lies. There was this thread about Chris Kyle, i think everyone was aware of him and while discussing them I found this very interesting set of posts so sharing it here:

This is how it all started :
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Also, about Operation Red Wings :
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SEALs not only suffered heavy casualties to a point i think almost all of the first team got wiped out but also left a few of their teammates to die, it was not until the second operation Red Wings 2 was initiated to bring back their bodies and rescue whoever was left.


One of the highlights that I found and could co-relate was, remember Major Jacob's statement of likes of the SEAL who prefer using insertion and less 'walk' and so on? The same story can be reflected above.

Also, that most of these people speak highly of Delta force and said how even Green Berets tried to water down their training procedures to get more 'Special forces'. This one is interesting, albiet that Indian SFs are not there yet we are facing a similar issue where 'more is good' being followed without the focus on quality.
Kek
/K/amando, could be some butthurt guys opinion, that place is full of butthurt. Last time I went there they were bad-mouthing Indian navy for their unprofessional behaviour.
 

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I don't know why we don't release the full footage, which type of hyper super ultra secret info is going to be released through this video. Same thing happened after 2016 strikes, lt. gen Hooda sir during an interview stated that he wants to release the video / photos to counter porki propaganda but political heads doesn't clear the decision
 

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1971 war Kukri assault of SFF.
Read about them and wow this is insane.


"It was sometime in third week of October 1971 that one of the most top secret armed campaigns against the Pakistan army in East Pakistan, the Operation Mountain Eagle, was quietly launched. More than 3000 (WOW) Tibetan commandos from Establishment 22 were dropped at an obscure and extreme border village Demagiri in Mizoram. The Indian secret services used AN- 12 plane from the ARC rather than military planes, as RAW wanted to avoid the Eastern command of the Indian army. to bring the guerrillas by night sorties. Demagiri which was located across the river Karnafulli and Chittagong Hill Tracts in East Pakistan was by that time crowded with refugees. The Tibetan stayed incognito with the refugees for sometimes and then began small hit-and-run raids into East Pakistan.

In the second week of November 1971, the SFF crossed the river using nine canoes. They divided into three columns and prepared to launch a guerilla campaign inside East Pakistan. A Pakistani brigade (97th) and a battalion of its elite SSG (Special Services group) had dug in under cover of the thick jungle and leech infested marshes. Undaunted the Tibetans swung into action. Using their Bulgarian AK-47 and their native knives, they unleashed a blitzkrieg-like-sweep and-destroy on Pakistani posts, capturing several Pakistani posts within hours, halting temporarily when their general or Dapon Dhondup Gyatotsang was shot, and then swinging back into action.

There is little doubt, corroborated by military specialists, that the Tibetan guerillas were wildly successful.In their campaign against the Pakistani 97th Independent Brigade and their 2nd commando battalion of SSG in Chittagong, they not only restrained their movements but also cut off their routes of escape to Burma. The SFF with their bold and striking hits were so swift that they seemed like merciless ghosts on the prowl. They came down like phantoms, killed the Pakistani soldiers, destroyed their posts and vanished. They never let up and continued the kill and vanishM Movements till the "phantom guerillas" virtually cleaned up all of Chittagong before the war was declared officially on Dec. 3, 1971, leaving the Indian army to advance with no resistance. Also Mukti Bahini which had a third of the SFF members captured many towns and garrisons in the Chittagong Hill Tracts in about a month's time. General Uban and SFF were keen to capture the port of Chittagong and had the capability to do so as the Pakistanis were in no position to stop the momentum of their fast and furious action. However, they decided against it as they would need heavy artillery to retain it and defend it.

The Chittagong port was finally captured by the Indian military, but the guerillas were asked to be silent and stay 40 km away. On 16, December, 1971 with the surrender of the Pakistani army in Dhaka, the warrior phantoms of 22 came out to celebrate the victory of India over Pakistan. For the first time they were seen rejoicing on the road to Chittagong. Soldiers of the Indian army as well as the common people were stunned to see the euphoric Tibetans appear seemingly from nowhere. However, when General Uban heard of it, he ordered them back into the shadows, their minutes of rejoicing forever banned from the public eye.

Though the Tibetan guerrillas were arguably the main force that played the key role in Chittagong in the 1971 war, - sacrificing 49 (according to Tibetans' estimate 56) including one of their top leader and 190 injured, they could not be officially recognized."
 

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The German military is paranoid of Neo-nazis in it's armed forces,
Russians are chads, so nyet to court martials,
Seals try to be chads, That Vic Hyder from the article seems to be an American Ghazi, with "flexible morality'' if their own Command is brushing it under the carpet, hey!

Even paras have done stuff like op kukhri
The Nagas has also done some weird shit which Fuked up enemy morale

Pakistani does regular BAT attempts which if not stopped will almost surely end up with mutilation of our soldier's bodies
Vic is a former DEVGRU officer, IIRC he was commanding a few assault teams when GWOT started. Had some issues early on when operating in Afghanistan. Last I recall he was a co-founder of some sorts in some computer security venture called "Silent Circle", and they were heavily recruiting ex-JSOC types. All this was 9 years ago, things might have changed since then.
 

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Few thoughts

1. I rather read sofrep then the ramblings on an internet forum

2. Yes SEALS become a liability if on am extended op on land. Reason why A ranger company has to baby sit DevGru on almost every op.

3. 100% agree having young soldiers in an SOF unit is a liability and something that works against the SEALs. Parallels can be drawn with our SOF units on this front as well

4. Not just GB but all of SOCOM has suffered from dilution of standards to increase size.
I wouldn't completely write off 4chan due to the notoriety it has received from its /pol/ and /b/ boards. Some boards like /k/, /g/, /sci/ have interesting posters and the content is mostly good. militaryporn on Reddit has had ex-US military personnel have the same opinions on operation Red Wings.

I would rather take stuff from SOFREP with some grain of salt when it comes to the SEALs since the founder is a SEAL himself, and any SEAL posts will have some level of bias.

The rest of your points are spot on as always.
 

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I have a soft corner for the SEALs. I would rate them above their Army counterparts. However, my opinion is based on interactions I have had with Western SF veterans more than 10 years back. Once had a brief exchange with a former SAS(at that time he was working for Blackwater). He trained with the US Navy SEALs too. As per him, BUD/S was the toughest course he had ever faced. The same lines were repeated by others and rated the US Navy's Naval Special Warfare Center above the US Army's one. Also, the US Navy's SF course was more scientific.

Not sure how things work out these days.
That could probably be the physical part due to Hell Week and the fact that volunteers are cold, wet, and sandy all the time. That 4chan /k/ post says the same that they just focused on the physical and not the psychological screenings. Delta, for instance, conducts very comprehensive psych. assessments.

Also, US Army SF is insanely good at most things, and they have a very positive reputation among the militaries of other nations. The US military as well has tons of respect for them and calls them "Warrior Diplomats".
 

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This is a story that I found about SEALs, a bit OT but I think it is interesting so adding it here:

Was just lurking on /k/, which is mostly filled with American gun-wielding neckbeards and few veterans along with shills from other countries. One thing i found that was a constant among them was their hate for SEALs for being drama queens and over-glorified to a point of outright lies. There was this thread about Chris Kyle, i think everyone was aware of him and while discussing them I found this very interesting set of posts so sharing it here:

This is how it all started :
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cont:
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Also, about Operation Red Wings :
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SEALs not only suffered heavy casualties to a point i think almost all of the first team got wiped out but also left a few of their teammates to die, it was not until the second operation Red Wings 2 was initiated to bring back their bodies and rescue whoever was left.


One of the highlights that I found and could co-relate was, remember Major Jacob's statement of likes of the SEAL who prefer using insertion and less 'walk' and so on? The same story can be reflected above.

Also, that most of these people speak highly of Delta force and said how even Green Berets tried to water down their training procedures to get more 'Special forces'. This one is interesting, albiet that Indian SFs are not there yet we are facing a similar issue where 'more is good' being followed without the focus on quality.
The GB's watering it down was mainly making SFAS a 2-week instead of a 3-week process. IIRC, they had moved it back to 3-weeks around 2009-'10.


If you talk to USMC vets, Rangers vets who served in Afghanistan when Op. Red Wings happened, you'll see an almost unanimous opinion that the SEALs screwed up big time. I used to talk to a former Ranger whose sergeant was on the team that went to search for Luttrell, and he had nothing positive to say about the op. In his sergeant's words "Luttrell came running like a b**tch the moment he saw American rescue forces approach".

Most of Lone Survivor was a nice fantasy tale with stuff that never happened - like the huge Taliban casualties, the climactic rescue scene where Mark Wahlberg has fist fights, and knife fights with Taliban combatants. Even the book has inconsistencies with the movie. In the movie, Luttrell tells his team that Killing the goat herd and his father is a bad media and they will be vilified on every news media channel. In the book, Luttrell very strongly defends his opinion that they had every right and would be totally correct to shoot the goat herd and his father.

A lot of the "How dare you criticize our military" Republican voting types ate up that whole movie left, right, center, and went orgasmic at the events shown in the movie. Little did they not realize that it seemed less real-life events and more of a US Navy sponsored propaganda piece.
 

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They're warriors. You cannot expect them to fit within our moral framework tbh.

Also, it's notable that these acts were unique enough to kick up some dust, so it's probably not the norm.
I'm no fan of SEALs although I do enjoy their books and podcasts and all that stuff but let's give credit where it's due. They're better trained than most of our SOFs and were in ceaseless operations the last two decades.
It's a testament to their resolve that Eddie Gallagher's trial or this article itself kicked up a shitstorm.

Take, for example, other nation's SOF.

Turkey SOF started beheading and cutting breasts off of female Kurdish fighters in Syria as soon as they deployed.

Russians often don't discriminate between soldiers and civilians, bombing indiscriminately.

The only "moral" SOF (relatively) are the Germans because of their constant struggle for denazifying their ideologies and forces (isn't working too well though).

All I'm saying is-
You roll in the mud, you're gonna get dirty.

And America went full pig mode after 2001.
In nutshell there is only a thin line between terrorists and SOF guys in terms of morality.
 

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I know this is the Indian SOF, but since we are talking about the yanks...an almost institutionalised issue ST6 has always had since it was founded is there is a certain "we make our own rules", it goes back to the original plank owning CO Dick Marcinko (read up on him if you haven't), traveling down through generations of ST6 operators.

It's why one SQN carried specially made tomahawks in to combat and were "encouraged" to use them. Now not all ST6's go with the flow and more then a few CO, SQN and PLT leaders have stamped down on excessive nonsense.
Not that Delta haven't had their fair share of shite, 1 of their SQNs was running a "kill game" in Iraq and a fairly well known member of that SQN was retired when he had a psychological breakdown while participaating.
 

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No Army is 100% morally correct.There are chor,gaddar and murderers in every army.

Yes there is a thin line..that is cause.
One wears a uniform and swears allegiance to a state.

The other is sworn to an ideology or a paymaster.

I think that's about as thin as it gets.
When do you think that line get crossed?
Both from the SOF and the insurgents?

When is a soldier not a soldier and a terrorist not a terrorist?
 

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When do you think that line get crossed?
Both from the SOF and the insurgents?

When is a soldier not a soldier and a terrorist not a terrorist?
Interesting question.

I believe as a soldier anyone who picks up a weapon to fight your country and hurt your countrymen regardless of their age should be neutralised.

In the process doing things to satisfy yourself and not the national needs like looting,raping,kiling etc is a crime.

Similarly for a terrorist killing innocents or raping and plundering is wrong.

Its ok for them to hate us and fight us but its not acceptable to target the weak like they did in late 80s and during Mumbai attacks.

........

But this is how war is.Men get carried away and forget their duty.Some are sensitive and it affects their mentality and creates monsters also.

For an Army to reduce deployment time and hiring Psychologist is important.
 

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