Indian Special Forces

[abingdonboy]

Nothing was there.
God knows ho they were operating

They were operating exactly as many of us have been saying they would- poorly equipped and under trained

We were meant to believe fanboys and anonymous Twitter accounts that they actually had all the kit they needed in the real world

Just a few days ago we were having the latest round of disagreements on this subject. Well life comes at you fast and now the dilsari gang is MIA

Is it still an insult to the service personnel to claim they aren’t supermen and aren’t as capable as western units?

 

[abingdonboy]

Till the Time they are in J&K yes, Outside they do Anti Piracy missions where Assault Dogs dont really make sense, Their EOD Teams have the Sniffer Dogs.
Point is they havent felt the need for them yet and will likely wont in future either.

May as well disband MARCOs then if they don’t have a mandate outside of JK/India. Is the IN not a self proclaimed blue water navy and india says it wants to be the jet security provider of the IOR

 

[SGOperative]

They were operating exactly as many of us have been saying they would- poorly equipped and under trained

We were meant to believe fanboys and anonymous Twitter accounts that they actually had all the kit they needed in the real world

Just a few days ago we were having the latest round of disagreements on this subject. Well life comes at you fast and now the dilsari gang is MIA

Is it still an insult to the service personnel to claim they aren’t supermen and aren’t as capable as western units?

They dint said there is some secret stash at-least when you argue or disagree, use something they did say

 

[SGOperative]

May as well disband MARCOs then if they don’t have a mandate outside of JK/India. Is the IN not a self proclaimed blue water navy and india says it wants to be the jet security provider of the IOR

How about we disband the complete fking armed forces, pencho har bat be lets disband this lets disband that

 

[abingdonboy]

They dint said there is some secret stash at-least when you argue or disagree, use something they did say

This is exactly what some DID say

the rest said Indian SF were somehow able to maintain the same capabilities despite having few of the required equipment

both positions were absurd

 

[SGOperative]

GT

This is exactly what some DID say

the rest said Indian SF were somehow able to maintain the same capabilities despite having few of the required equipment

both positions were absurd

You mentioned the disagreement which happened recently where i dont recall anyone saying anything about the secret stash they however did say the second point.

 

[abingdonboy]

GT
You mentioned the disagreement which happened recently where i dont recall anyone saying anything about the secret stash they however did say the second point.

Both statements have been said by this ‘camp’ of people.

but this is a petty thing to be arguing over. Either way it’s pretty clear to all now just what the reality is

 

[SGOperative]

Both statements have been said by this ‘camp’ of people.

but this is a petty thing to be arguing over. Either way it’s pretty clear to all now just what the reality is

"Camp" I dint knew you guys were camping, i wasnt invited to that

 

[senapati3]

Is theaterisation of commands going to help the state of forces ? Considering budget allocation can be done far more easier and also aquisations as per the needs.
Btw anyone has any idea how SF's will be distributed between different commands ?

 

[abingdonboy]

Is theaterisation of commands going to help the state of forces ? Considering budget allocation can be done far more easier and also aquisations as per the needs.
Btw anyone has any idea how SF's will be distributed between different commands ?

Theatrisation is why they want a SOCOM and why AFSOD was created (a mini SOCOM to test out the concept). If theatrisation occurs there will have to be a SOCOM

 

[SGOperative]

Theatrisation is why they want a SOCOM and why AFSOD was created (a mini SOCOM to test out the concept). If theatrisation occurs there will have to be a SOCOM

How will that play out when they expand, will they expand and make sub SOCOM for each service or something like the Russians or Ukraine where they make a complete new Service and take the operators from existing teams or something like POLAND where they shift them to the SOCOM unit away from their Parent unit but still have them distributed in similar style

 

[senapati3]

"Camp" I dint knew you guys were camping, i wasnt invited to that

Bros nothing we say here be it how good or bad is going to change the reality of SF's , we all can agree that there is huge scope of improvement in SF's but that doesn't mean they are completely incompetent. ( That is why i asked how good or bad our SF' s are when compared to our main adversaries)

Let's stop arguing over same old things and if anyone has any new info or pictures please share.🥲

 

[Fire and groove]

Never seen PLA if you got link share, i have seen PAP do that

 

[abingdonboy]

How will that play out when they expand, will they expand and make sub SOCOM for each service or something like the Russians or Ukraine where they make a complete new Service and take the operators from existing teams or something like POLAND where they shift them to the SOCOM unit away from their Parent unit but still have them distributed in similar style

Each service will have to create a SF command IMO for which the tri-service SOCOM will tap into. The IN already has a special warfare command, can’t say about the IAF but the IA definitely doesn’t. It’s not a particularly costly effort but it might be difficult for conventional forces to give up this space.

I *believe* the INSOCOM will look more like the Poland/US/French model but it will obviously have its own path and these things take decades to shake out, india is only taking baby steps right now

 

[SGOperative]

I thought this was one of their PAP unit

 

[Fire and groove]

How will that play out when they expand, will they expand and make sub SOCOM for each service or something like the Russians or Ukraine where they make a complete new Service and take the operators from existing teams or something like POLAND where they shift them to the SOCOM unit away from their Parent unit but still have them distributed in similar style

A SOCOM isn't meant to be a unit, it's meant to be a structure that organizes and develops everything regarding special operations and the units in the military. The units themselves are tasked by a sub-command like JSOC which gets priority in tasking of the units over the main services. What other countries have is this sort of tasking, while the US has a complete command.

 

[Tactical Doge]

I thought this was one of their PAP unit

I think I saw a Type 79 SMG @ 00:42
So maybe it is PAP

 

[Fire and groove]

I thought this was one of their PAP unit

Nah, i'm pretty sure this one's SOF.

 

[SGOperative]

A SOCOM isn't meant to be a unit, it's meant to be a structure that organizes and develops everything regarding special operations and the units in the military. The units themselves are tasked by a sub-command like JSOC which gets priority in tasking of the units over the main services. What other countries have is this sort of tasking, while the US has a complete command.

And US has the resources too what i was asking what kind of model we are looking into.

 

[Fire and groove]

And US has the resources too what i was asking what kind of model we are looking into.

Seeing as how we've created some weird-ass amalgamation of an oversized task force that makes little sense and sold it as a prototype, i'm guessing it's the latter. Setting up a proper SOCOM wouldn't have required a "prototype" at all, it would simply require the sanction and resources. There's zero reason to be combining the units, rather than placing them under the operational tasking of a sub-command.