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Well some times , having a smaller size compared to major power SFs are not bad . They went for quality and tools . Although for a country who doesn't spend much on SOFs , size does matter as it helps in overwhelming the enemy with numbers and also allows deeper penetration into enemy defences and f***king them up . Something that para SF is based on
 

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Unless they're carrying mounts for those optics it probably won't make much of a difference. Plus they'll need to carry LAMs for their rifles and i doubt these dumbfucks know about laser discipline, If anything, they might just make it easier on us thanks to that. I'd be more worried about thermals.
A few not so idiots can cause a lot of damage

Iirc a few years back a paki snuck across the LOC with a M4 with a decent-ish scope and was causing quite a bit of havoc sniping
 

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This piece of human shit talks like no other sf unit has faced injury or casualties in combat. Apparently its shameful to get hit fighting jihadis.

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This guy is from the army right? Wouldn’t surprise me, IA guys often look down on anyone else coming onto ‘their turf’

but the lack of self awareness here is mind blowing. Para SF is far from immune from suffering casualties during Ops like this

Same people will then attack Garuds for being a base security force only
 

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This piece of human shit talks like no other sf unit has faced injury or casualties in combat. Apparently its shameful to get hit fighting jihadis.

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Don't want to spark an inter-service SF dyck-comparision war, but Army is no one to speak.

Seen multiple videos of RRs dumping 100s of kgs of ammunition including scores of grenades, hundreds of rounds of bullets, and multiple Carl-Gustav rounds just to smoke out some 17-year old valley kids with vanilla Ak-47s, who probably only have like 60 rounds with them.
Not to mention 5-6 RR platoons keep firefighting the whole day with 2-3 kids, taking casualties while failing to kill them, and in the evening decide to blow up the whole building.

PARA SF? They get casualties all the time. Not going to mention anything because it is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.
 

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This piece of human shit talks like no other sf unit has faced injury or casualties in combat. Apparently its shameful to get hit fighting jihadis.

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I agree and disagree with the fact at the same time .

Getting hit during a mission is considered a failure because it burdens the team leader with the responsibilities of his squadmate's life and might jeopardize the original task .

However it is truly very disagreeable to see that trained operaters are treated in this manner and scrutinized as if it's their own fault . One can't be 100% aware of the unpredictable decisions and the exact positions that the enemy inside a building is situated in . Even during active hours when everyone is aware that a firefight is about to start. That's why GWOT SOF moved towards NV capabilities and night fighting doctrines , where they can conduct surprise raids when the enemy let's their guard down after dark . Shows that we're still living in a Holly/Bollywood Commando mindset
 

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Garuds and Marcos are embedded with RR so RR SOP.
Understandable for Garuds , since they're pretty new but I still don't get the point of embedding the Marcos . They've had their own share of tactical missions and have gained enough experience in CT/COIN by jointly operating with RR . They've also gained a good amount of exp in UC and Intel ops. Now is the time they should reduce their super-infantry and support missions with their strategic raids and unconventional forms of warfare .
 

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Understandable for Garuds , since they're pretty new but I still don't get the point of embedding the Marcos . They've had their own share of tactical missions and have gained enough experience in CT/COIN by jointly operating with RR . They've also gained a good amount of exp in UC and Intel ops. Now is the time they should reduce their super-infantry and support missions with their strategic raids and unconventional forms of warfare .
Every other force present there is to support RR in one or the other way, in our CI/CT ops RR Takes the Lead always and depending on situation Para SF.
 

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Understandable for Garuds , since they're pretty new but I still don't get the point of embedding the Marcos . They've had their own share of tactical missions and have gained enough experience in CT/COIN by jointly operating with RR . They've also gained a good amount of exp in UC and Intel ops. Now is the time they should reduce their super-infantry and support missions with their strategic raids and unconventional forms of warfare .
RR pretty much handles anything related to CI/CT, so it makes sense
Besides, Marcos has done maritime ops in the Wular lake, Subedar Major CV Singh once talked about an Op in which prolonged underwater diving was involved
A squadmate got hypothermic midway and they called the entire thing off
 

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Don't want to spark an inter-service SF dyck-comparision war, but Army is no one to speak.

Seen multiple videos of RRs dumping 100s of kgs of ammunition including scores of grenades, hundreds of rounds of bullets, and multiple Carl-Gustav rounds just to smoke out some 17-year old valley kids with vanilla Ak-47s, who probably only have like 60 rounds with them.
Not to mention 5-6 RR platoons keep firefighting the whole day with 2-3 kids, taking casualties while failing to kill them, and in the evening decide to blow up the whole building.

PARA SF? They get casualties all the time. Not going to mention anything because it is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.
Never understood the concept of blowing houses especially when you are fighting against 17-20 year olds with no experience. We all saw what happened when they fought with experienced terrorists in Poonch. 9 DEAD.

What will happen if battle hardened terrorists from Afghanistan or Syria come. It will be a mess. PARA SF won't be there for CI ops all the time. Even if they are available their skillset will be wasted.
 

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Understandable for Garuds , since they're pretty new but I still don't get the point of embedding the Marcos . They've had their own share of tactical missions and have gained enough experience in CT/COIN by jointly operating with RR . They've also gained a good amount of exp in UC and Intel ops. Now is the time they should reduce their super-infantry and support missions with their strategic raids and unconventional forms of warfare .
Well, even para SF operatives are embedded with RR, Ig it's an SOP of Army in CI/CT ops to have a 6 man SF squad embedded with them as HRT
 

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Never understood the concept of blowing houses especially when you are fighting against 17-20 year olds with no experience. We all saw what happened when they fought with experienced terrorists in Poonch. 9 DEAD.

What will happen if battle hardened terrorists from Afghanistan or Syria come. It will be a mess. PARA SF won't be there for CI ops all the time. Even if they are available their skillset will be wasted.
Risking your men on clearing the houses or a big boom that sends the 17 years to their hoors and also sends a message to the the terrorist sympathisers . Which is the logical option? And battle hardened or not all will get their hoors.forces send the most battle hardened mujahids to hoors in the 90s .ones from afghan and Syria are snowflakes in comparison
 

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Don't want to spark an inter-service SF dyck-comparision war, but Army is no one to speak.

Seen multiple videos of RRs dumping 100s of kgs of ammunition including scores of grenades, hundreds of rounds of bullets, and multiple Carl-Gustav rounds just to smoke out some 17-year old valley kids with vanilla Ak-47s, who probably only have like 60 rounds with them.
Not to mention 5-6 RR platoons keep firefighting the whole day with 2-3 kids, taking casualties while failing to kill them, and in the evening decide to blow up the whole building.

PARA SF? They get casualties all the time. Not going to mention anything because it is going to ruffle a lot of feathers.
Can you give post some videos regarding the same ?
And what do you exactly mean by taking casualties all the time
i am damn sure that casualty count would be a very small ratio against the number of successful ops done by Para SF particulary the 9th and the 4th .

They still do scores of successful CI ops and CB raids without suffering casualties . It's natural that a unit which is permanently operating in a war zone will suffer casualties . Even the most elite SFs and SOFs around the world could not prevent that . Imagine US deltas getting gunned down by 17 year old talibunnies or getting blown up by 12 Year Old suicide bombers in fallujah , this shit has happened in real life .
 

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Never understood the concept of blowing houses especially when you are fighting against 17-20 year olds with no experience. We all saw what happened when they fought with experienced terrorists in Poonch. 9 DEAD.

What will happen if battle hardened terrorists from Afghanistan or Syria come. It will be a mess. PARA SF won't be there for CI ops all the time. Even if they are available their skillset will be wasted.
Don't waste yout time thinking about it . Let them do whatever they want to . If the so called battle hardened Ex afghan militants come to our side we will deal with them in some way
 

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