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IMO not really an Intel issue either. IMO It's about SOPs. The Para guys had good intel on ultras moving in a specific vehicle. The ambush was laid a week ago.

Same type vehicle carrying villagers from a hunting trip was asked to stop. The villagers carrying illegal guns for scared and didn't stop. The paras seeing the guns engaged the pax as hostile.

Could a tire strip been used to stop the car? shooting the engine blocm? Did the Paras engage first or return fire ? Were Paras required when this was more a police interdiction ? ISR support ? Medevac support? QRF?

Either way this is a major fuckup after a very long time and I am sure there will be issues addressed along the value chain.
Negligence in PID'ing the target. Either way, even if you put the ambush aside the same team apparantly opened fire on the mob that csme after. 7 of those 13 dead were from the mob itself. Botched ambush or not, that team is done for.
 

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Negligence in PID'ing the target. Either way, even if you put the ambush aside the same team apparantly opened fire on the mob that csme after. 7 of those 13 dead were from the mob itself. Botched ambush or not, that team is done for.
It is said that they stayed for 3hrs . How Long would it have taken for them to evacuate?
 

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Well you can't kill 19 civilians and not expect repercussions. Someone on the security forces' side fucked up which led to a series of fuckups. And someone else paid the price. I'm not justifying either side but this was to be expected.

Anyway, the security forces' reputation is in tatters now. And 'revenge' or any form of retaliation against civilians will not help.
Well said. Just consider if it was done by police, the ones calling out for revenge and justification of killing would have said the same? When you lost your dear onea you cant expect people to be silent and sit idle. If it had happened somewhere else similar protests would have happened. One of the first rules taught in military and police academies is to shoot only if you are 100% sure of the target. It is true that we love our forcew but that doesn't mean we should be blind when making our opinions when the very same ones makes mistakes.
 

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Wtf are you this is a sf thread he said was right it you can say that after firing on van they did that what could the soldiers do they rely on intel they didn't stop had rifles they may have mistook them for terrorist we have different Operating procedure seems your visa for amrica got cancelled shooting on van engine there are many videos even after firing on engine the vehicle went on stop your black hawk down nonsense
what he means is "ye randirona kidhar aur kar". I apologise for the language, no offense to you.
 

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Well said. Just consider if it was done by police, the ones calling out for revenge and justification of killing would have said the same? When you lost your dear onea you cant expect people to be silent and sit idle. If it had happened somewhere else similar protests would have happened. One of the first rules taught in military and police academies is to shoot only if you are 100% sure of the target. It is true that we love our forcew but that doesn't mean we should be blind when making our opinions when the very same ones makes mistakes.
Mistakes were made, shit happened its all horrible best to not talk about it anymore.
 

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Seems you got hurt 😂bas reddit pe dikhana hai sab Marines aur Navy seals pade hai reddit pe jinke according a bullet will stop engine for any vechile
Well SF guys have regularly shot engine blocks to stop vehicles, it needs a large caliber though. We might not have experience, but we have knowledge atleast. You have neither.
 

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An engine block is made up of cast iron and other objects within the compartment- sheet metal and plastics primarily. No reason as to why bullets can't penetrate them and something starts malfunctioning. Even with the heat exchanger damaged in the front section of the panel, engine won't last a few minutes
 

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