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Square cut plate carriers, olive planet? Looks like he has worn the carrier such that the carrier straps go underneath his shoulder tabs. Wouldnt that make hard to take it on and off in a hurry?
Edit* I like the new pouches alot.
Shoulder tabs and epaulettes would be a thing of the past after the uniform changes
I believe they'll switch the ranks to the chest instead
 

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ALH and WSI is fully capable and integrated for night flying using ANVIS night sights. They have adequate no.s.

They can undertake night ops in a denied environment? Night ops is not just giving the pilot NoDs and a FLIR ball.

Cheetah and chetak are not night flg capable. Still they do practice night flg. Surprisingly they also have ANVIS night sights.
These pilots earmarked for SOF operations.? Do they even have a training regime for the same. Flying at night for conventional operations and SOF 2 different things.

Dhruvs the right platform for SOF operations? What about the Mils ?

Regarding the BMP IIs. The order for the upgrade was placed right after the Chinese confrontation and AFAIK they are a phased acquisition and contract yet to be signed. Please provide source of this upgrade


An abinitio SOF capability in 2021 for a major world power is a dereliction of duty. Back to you
 

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ALH and WSI is fully capable and integrated for night flying using ANVIS night sights. They have adequate no.s.

Cheetah and chetak are not night flg capable. Still they do practice night flg. Surprisingly they also have ANVIS night sights.

Indian BMP IIs - 90% are upgraded with Israeli TSIK sight and the commanders sight is upgraded by BHEL TKN 3B sight.

Now what?
These pilots earmarked for SOF operations.? Do they even have a training regime for the same. Flying at night for conventional operations and SOF 2 different things.

Dhruvs the right platform for SOF operations? What about the Mils ?

Regarding the BMP IIs. The order for the upgrade was placed right after the Chinese confrontation and AFAIK they are a phased acquisition and contract yet to be signed. Please provide source of this upgrade


An abinitio SOF capability in 2021 for a major world power is a dereliction of duty. Back to you
We have about 2600+ BMP-2s in our mechanised forces, only an initial batch of 970 were upgraded with the Alpha Design Technologies Thermal Imager Stand-alone Kit (TISK).
Post the clashes with China another similar upgrade was sought this time with a TISK and a thermal commanders panoramic sight, along with an FCS upgrade for 800 pieces. This most likely includes the 156 additional BMP-2s ordered around the same time.
So 90% of our BMP-2 fleet not being night blind is still inaccurate as once the upgrades are completed it will still be about 60% of the fleet.
 

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Regarding pilot training it's my thought take it with a grain of salt they do go through sf training Inc probation they may have a training /protocols they are trained for sf operation along if anything goes wrong it may not be wide like west but enough for our operations . Regarding Dhruv I it's best to leave with @BrigadierRPS Rudra is in service to and what makes Dhruv bad for sf op seems too much licking of west going on . BMP even with night sight are outdated bureaucracy is too slow Highers up may be corrupt (doesn't inc. all ) and faith in indeginious systems along with funds is low
 

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These pilots earmarked for SOF operations.? Do they even have a training regime for the same. Flying at night for conventional operations and SOF 2 different things.

Dhruvs the right platform for SOF operations? What about the Mils ?

Regarding the BMP IIs. The order for the upgrade was placed right after the Chinese confrontation and AFAIK they are a phased acquisition and contract yet to be signed. Please provide source of this upgrade


An abinitio SOF capability in 2021 for a major world power is a dereliction of duty. Back to you
Why are Dhruvs a bad option?
 

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Will love to see them in new uniform shirt tucked outwards
how can you carry sidearms on a hip mounted holster with shirts untucked (something PARA SF has been doing more recently)?


I hope the adoption of a new camo at least comes with a combat shirt, that's what every modern military is issuing to combat units these days


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I don't have any hopes though really, they'll get the tucked out style but not adjust their combat gear accordingly
 

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how can you carry sidearms on a hip mounted holster with shirts untucked (something PARA SF has been doing more recently)?


I hope the adoption of a new camo at least comes with a combat shirt, that's what every modern military is issuing to combat units these days


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I don't have any hopes though really, they'll get the tucked out style but not adjust their combat gear accordingly
SF is slowly adopting quarter zip tshirts. And i dont think US Regular Infantry uses quarter zip tshirts. Its the SF which uses correct me if i am wrong.

And this untucked is not for SF but for Regular infantry. Nothing Specific to SF out there. They might not change their camo along with infantry like SSG of Pakistan.
 

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SF is slowly adopting quarter zip tshirts. And i dont think US Regular Infantry uses quarter zip tshirts. Its the SF which uses correct me if i am wrong.
Their frontline combat units are getting combat shirts- marines, 82nd and some infantry units. in the near future this will be the standard for them, only POGs will run around with untucked shirts


82nd airborne (not SF, airborne infantry) in Kabul:

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Indian army always 20+ years behind even when they do something 'new'
 

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Their frontline combat units are getting combat shirts- marines, 82nd and some infantry units. in the near future this will be the standard for them, only POGs will run around with untucked shirts


82nd airborne (not SF, airborne infantry) in Kabul:

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Indian army always 20+ years behind even when they do something 'new'
IA Infantryman in Congo
Does this qualify as a Combat T-shirt? I'm guessing no still

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SF is slowly adopting quarter zip tshirts. And i dont think US Regular Infantry uses quarter zip tshirts. Its the SF which uses correct me if i am wrong.

And this untucked is not for SF but for Regular infantry. Nothing Specific to SF out there. They might not change their camo along with infantry like SSG of Pakistan.

Regular Australian army infantry:
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USMC infantry:

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US Army 25th Infantry division:


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Ya'll Nibbiars this tuck out concept is outdated Most of the Frontline units are equipped with zip shirt from Japan to Rok from EU to Russia and even African countries have stated to issue this.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars this tuck out concept is outdated Most of the Frontline units are equipped with zip shirt from Japan to Rok from EU to Russia and even African countries have stated to issue this.
Like when we ordered our new "upgraded" helmets from MKU, without any rails or NVG mounts? Not blaming MKU here, our military procurement planners are just huge boomers. Now they have putout new request for helmets that can stop 7.62 bullets, do any such helmet exist that will be comfortable to wear?
 

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Like when we ordered our new "upgraded" helmets from MKU, without any rails or NVG mounts? Not blaming MKU here, our military procurement planners are just huge boomers. Now they have putout new request for helmets that can stop 7.62 bullets, do any such helmet exist that will be comfortable to wear?
A varient of the FAST helmet can and has successfully stopped 7.62x39
 

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