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abingdonboy

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Guys I think this comment should end the debate if it's para guy or model with all face blurr opsec and only being able to share this it's pretty much confirmed it's Paras probably got permission from CO or something.
The amount of effort spent on discussing this when in the same week this was the pathetic state displayed of Paras- wearing matching uniforms is not praise worthy

there are actually terrorist outfits that have demonstrated better tactical loud outs and drills than this.

this is the best the Indian army can do and it says a lot

1 guy/team matters nothing, we’ve seen the PAFF videos of how these guys are operating in the field and what consequences this has.


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looks like point man will get pnvgs , rest still the same

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https://nsg.gov.in/whats-new
Obviously a good thing- anyone that has any knowledge of these things knows your need every advantage possible with the assualters. That said I’m still yet to see the NSG ever using LAM so thanks seems like a literal photoshoot showcase not representative of their real capabilities. I’ve explained ad nauseam how extensive night fighting training has to be and it’s beyond merely buying a NOD
 

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The soldiers of 48 RR who interrogated those OGW's are facing Hell rn!
Making rounds in courts like criminals!

The army has distanced themselves from them!

Men who have seen mutilation of their brother's bodies are being sent through this!!

A disgrace
No it’s not a disgrace, actions have consequences- these are grown men entrusted with the highest levels of responsibility their nation has.

my biggest problem is that the entire chain of command isn’t being held to account first for letting this massacre occur (of the RR unit) then the subsequent retaliatory actions By the affected unit, it reeks of an incompetent and undisciplined force, this many decades into this fight it’s absurd how they get caught out like this so easily and then bungle the response so catastrophically

these guys want to pretend like they are British army aristocrats then when they get into the field act like complete cowboys
 

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Same mindset is the reason why bunch of jihadis killed several 9 para sf operators.

Every army has done some ugly work including us.
The issue is there is a way of handling everything including "advanced" interrogation.
Army in 80's and 90's was a well oiled machine.
Ugly work would be done with without anyone finding out.
Now we are acting like retards jumping the gun at first moment.
Not following SOP's is the reason why we are being fucked.
Current Army brass has a similar thinking to you .
Thats why men are pushed in to get revenge at first signal interception.
Good post.

indiscipline gets guys killed then undisciplined soldiers go out looking to vent their frustrations

the response to this is not more indiscipline or disregarding of rules/standards.

I’m not sure how many people on here have professional jobs but I’m sure if you are you are bound by corporate responsibilities, this should be 100x more true for those that are given the responsibility of bringing violence on behalf of the state and this goes even more so when they are operating on their own soil.

IA leadership are acting like gangsters these days- hoarding their gold whilst looking the other way as their subordinates act in complete disarray
 

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This is my concern. NSG and most Indian units come across as very unserious, you’re meant to train as you fight

for example just London’s armed police unit seems to be more serious than these guys, forget the likes of SAS:
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This is Austrian army Vehicle they didn't have enmity with any country still have vehicle like this But Here we are suffering from insurgency couldn't get a perfect vehicle for our troops Only this type of vehicle save you from deadly ambush
 

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I think..

Beheading is ok if you have achieved something big lets say attacked a coy and beheaded their coy commander in war

Or

Against bat action u killed bat team and beheaded them to show who u r

But

Beheading after a encounter when you have already outnumbered those few terrorists proves nothing.

I know people who charged 3 terrorist with the Bren and killed all 3 and sat with their dead bodies and smoked a cigratte
Fully agreed here. Just looks like the IA was frustrated after a beating. Only time beheadings should be celebrated is when you attack the enemy post like the early 2000
 

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No it’s not a disgrace, actions have consequences- these are grown men entrusted with the highest levels of responsibility their nation has.

my biggest problem is that the entire chain of command isn’t being held to account first for letting this massacre occur (of the RR unit) then the subsequent retaliatory actions By the affected unit, it reeks of an incompetent and undisciplined force, this many decades into this fight it’s absurd how they get caught out like this so easily and then bungle the response so catastrophically

these guys want to pretend like they are British army aristocrats then when they get into the field act like complete cowboys
I got so much pushback in the Indo Pak conflict thread for saying this by one of the moderators.

You are firing the wrong people. Sure, martial then for the massacre, but why are you surpised such events happen? You give your army shit vehicles, no proper recon, still operating and not leveraging the advantage of being a professionally trained fuckinf military by choosing to keep this a foot soldier vs foot soldier war, and then act all surpised when they are frustrated? I do not feel an ounce of anger towards to the court maritaled officers. Instead, what tf is command doing? Why are the soldiers still traveling in a bloody civilian vehicle? It’s not a god damn sector commanders job to buy proper gear, it’s the commands job.

I feel so much pain and sadness towards the common IA sepoy and the young field officers. Pledging loyalty to such an incompetent upper brass.

And this is the 7th time it’s happened this year. The COAS has dodged all accountability. He has hid behind the leverage of OGW killings, to shift the attention from the real problem, which is him.

Excuse my language, but this is getting fucking ridiculous. Too many good men dying in a fucking proxy war.

Do causalties happen? Of course they do! But when it’s literal avoidable casualties, which could have been prevented, it gets anger inducing.
 

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