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abingdonboy said:
Can’t even give them the basics but wants jet packs, nothing embodies the attitude of Indian officers more than this. Always looking for easy shortcuts
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How much do these costs?

And i dont understand this lacking basic equipments in one and going for top sci fi stuff in another!

Aur karo paise waste.
 
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COLDHEARTED AVIATOR said:
How much do these costs?

And i dont understand this lacking basic equipments in one and going for top sci fi stuff in another!

Aur karo paise waste.
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Like I said- it’s just lazy behaviour as usual from the Indian officer class. It’s much easier to watch YouTube videos/read brochures and draft RFIs than to create doctrine, improve training etc. the latter requires expertise, the former anyone can do

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abingdonboy said:
Like I said- it’s just lazy behaviour as usual from the Indian officer class. It’s much easier to watch YouTube videos/read brochures and draft RFIs than to create doctrine, improve training etc. the latter requires expertise, the former anyone can do

amateurs playing at being professionals
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Not even a military at this point. They hardly qualify as a circus force.
 
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Kumaoni said:
Not even a military at this point. They hardly qualify as a circus force.
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The lack of lesson- learning is a big problem and a larger discussion needs to be had. We are finally starting to see this trend and it is concerning that the trend has not changed.
I remember reading a contemporary US evaluation of the performance of the Indian and Pakistani military in the 1965 war, and one point made clear was that both forces were still using world war 2 tactics. Advantages that were repeatedly apparent were not seized by commanders due to conservative thinking.

While I am sure we are not at WW2 levels anymore, it is worth thinking what level is the military thinking at today. I am not optimistic because 27 Feb did not give me any confidence in how the system performed under pressure.
Why am I talking about the IAF in a largely army thread? because it gives us a look into the larger institutional thinking.
I remember an exercise with the RAF in the early 2000s where the RAF said later on that the IAF suffered from a high rate of friendly fire kills. Of course, India raised a diplomatic stink and shut the discussion down. Was it fake news? Remember, there is no smoke without fire. Did we learn the lessons from this exercise to almost 2 decades later on 27 February 2019?
How much have we adopted modern thinking, or are we still dreaming of fighting 20th century war with 21st century equipment?
 
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The lack of lesson- learning is a big problem and a larger discussion needs to be had. We are finally starting to see this trend and it is concerning that the trend has not changed.
I remember reading a contemporary US evaluation of the performance of the Indian and Pakistani military in the 1965 war, and one point made clear was that both forces were still using world war 2 tactics. Advantages that were repeatedly apparent were not seized by commanders due to conservative thinking.

While I am sure we are not at WW2 levels anymore, it is worth thinking what level is the military thinking at today. I am not optimistic because 27 Feb did not give me any confidence in how the system performed under pressure.
Why am I talking about the IAF in a largely army thread? because it gives us a look into the larger institutional thinking.
I remember an exercise with the RAF in the early 2000s where the RAF said later on that the IAF suffered from a high rate of friendly fire kills. Of course, India raised a diplomatic stink and shut the discussion down. Was it fake news? Remember, there is no smoke without fire. Did we learn the lessons from this exercise to almost 2 decades later on 27 February 2019?
How much have we adopted modern thinking, or are we still dreaming of fighting 20th century war with 21st century equipment?
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Yea India lost everything even 27 feb was a humiliation
 
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abingdonboy said:
Like I said- it’s just lazy behaviour as usual from the Indian officer class. It’s much easier to watch YouTube videos/read brochures and draft RFIs than to create doctrine, improve training etc. the latter requires expertise, the former anyone can do

amateurs playing at being professionals
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Can we atleast call our BSF special force , indeed they are special.

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