Indian Special Forces

[Kumaoni]

That is to develop character,induce fighting instincts and make you a hunter.

If you are doing Martial arts to survive your planning has failed.

Its like 50/50 situation..why would you get into that where you have half a chance to survive.

martial arts to survive in modern warfare? Yeah any army relying on that is totally toast

 

[ManhattanProject]

Lol ok so you believe what he has to say about there not being snipers in the forces and other things but u question his expertise when he says about NODs. Yeah ok totally doesn't expose your agenda

Its almost like there is nothing in that head of yours, no brain in sight.
learn to listen more and give fewer opinions, maybe go do your own research, learn about nods from experts. You just come out as an idiot to us everytime you open your mouth, as you grow up learn more you will cringe about the things you say on this forum.

 

[Op Kahuta]

Its almost like there is nothing in that head of yours, no brain in sight.
learn to listen more and give fewer opinions, maybe go do your own research, learn about nods from experts. You just come out as an idiot to us everytime you open your mouth, as you grow up learn more you will cringe about the things you say on this forum.

Lol funny it comes from a no-brainer gucci ganger. So, you mean to say Avinash sir isn't an expert? Sorry but I will take Avinash sir's expertise over yours or any member who think they are expert just by watching some youtube videos. Besides, weren't u gucci gangers larping over Avinash sir's posts in this thread when he said SF lacks even basic equipments. What happened now, agenda of demeaning forces doesn't suit when he put forward his views on NODs they use?

 

[Waanar]

Don't entertain the kid. Set on ignore and carry on the discussion.

 

[jai jaganath]

Don't entertain the kid. Set on ignore and carry on the discussion.

Why did he get banned bro ?

 

[ManhattanProject]

Why did he get banned bro ?

its for the greater good, he seems to lack basic intelligence. I could try to spend hours explaining the nuance but i want him to discover them himself.
He seems to think sf guys are the forefront of military technology, which they are not..even Avinash sir will say he is still learning. A civilian will beat a sf guy in competitive shooting everytime, but that doesnt mean he will be better at combat. He seems to think the technical guys are same as the action guys, its very hard to explain. He will never learn with his attitude.

 

[Fire and groove]

If that person has far greater experience and expertise in the subject than the one who watches some gora youtube videos featuring superpawa murican SF then yea I expect his opinion to be full of jackshit

He's a SOF operator, but he's not an engineer. He can comment with authority on snipers in the Indian army because it falls within his jurisdiction of expertise. BNVGs on the other hand are far more technical and it is entirely understandable if he makes errors. For one, BNVGs aren't distributed far and wide in the Para SF for them to have requisite experience. That being said, on a capability level BNVGs will always outperform MNVGs unless there is a generational difference involved. Modern BNVGs are autogated to adapt according to lightsources removing the need to adapt your eyesight later, have far better depth perception over MNVGs as well as being easier on the eyes, and are balanced more equally reducing neck strain and helmet shifting from unequal distribution

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Pakisani SSG..Army and their attitude of not owning things which is still active today.

 

[Love Charger]

Pakisani SSG..Army and their attitude of not owning things which is still active today.

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

Who else but waanar

Masha waanar

Waanar nahi , Prophet Waanar of the Holy Messiah Words

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

Hand to hand combat is useful in mountain warfare or extreme conditions where guns may jam up. Happened in Siachen and Kargil. Though we were less technologically advanced back then.

Tell me what would you prefer : you charging towards the enemy being the Tekken fighter or a 716 with 7.62 nato

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

Yes bro everyone is trained for worse case but it's never expected and as I said rarely
Moreover HTH is done to increase fighting spirit aggressiveness and other human factors
But rarely in real life

No matter how much you train to increase aggressiveness and fighting spirit its not gonna make you usable beyond human limits . An example I'd like to fetch , once I tried sparring with my senior , since I knew my hands were stronger than most people . I went on with blind aggressiveness and adrenaline , yet he used range and tactics dodged my punches , and with a single upper roundhouse kick almost bent one of my finger backwards . Similarly , I'd rather run on pure strategy and range for gaining upper hand in combat , since firefights are never 'fair' as per se

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

If an SBR configuration of SSS m72 is released , it might gain popularity in SF market , especially Marcos and SAG since they're one of the first to opt for higher developments

 

[jai jaganath]

No matter how much you train to increase aggressiveness and fighting spirit its not gonna make you usable beyond human limits . An example I'd like to fetch , once I tried sparring with my senior , since I knew my hands were stronger than most people . I went on with blind aggressiveness and adrenaline , yet he used range and tactics dodged my punches , and with a single upper roundhouse kick almost bent one of my finger backwards . Similarly , I'd rather run on pure strategy and range for gaining upper hand in combat , since firefights are never 'fair' as per se

Yeah but during training it's necessary especially in infantry and sf
But again in combat no use

 

[jai jaganath]

If an SBR configuration of SSS m72 is released , it might gain popularity in SF market , especially Marcos and SAG since they're one of the first to opt for higher developments

Even the other ar-15 rifles specs released by them was horrible but I hope it was either false or earlier specs

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Even the other ar-15 rifles specs released by them was horrible but I hope it was either false or earlier specs

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

Wasn't the RFI requirements 400m . Well since they will be used for urban cqb I doubt we'll ever see such range

 

[Fire and groove]

Hand to hand combat is useful in mountain warfare or extreme conditions where guns may jam up. Happened in Siachen and Kargil. Though we were less technologically advanced back then.

This is a bad perspective. For one, soldiers work as part of a team. Unless some voodoo magic happens that leads to the entire section's weaponry getting jammed a single rifle out of order doesn't ultimately change the equation. Second, small arms are standoff weaponry. Unless the distance was already closed into substantially in the first place, this is a fruitless endeavor. Third, you don't have to continue the fight if it comes down to it depending on the mission and the neccessity of this gunfight. Preservation of you and your force may very well be the smarter decision and is far more likely to be the optimal decision.

 

[shouryav105]

This is a bad perspective. For one, soldiers work as part of a team. Unless some voodoo magic happens that leads to the entire section's weaponry getting jammed a single rifle out of order doesn't ultimately change the equation. Second, small arms are standoff weaponry. Unless the distance was already closed into substantially in the first place, this is a fruitless endeavor. Third, you don't have to continue the fight if it comes down to it depending on the mission and the neccessity of this gunfight. Preservation of you and your force may very well be the smarter decision and is far more likely to be the optimal decision.

Its okay to teach basic h to h , what if you are on a sniper recce and get attacked from back, what if your team is dead , what if you are the first responder on crisis situation, there is nothing wrong in knowing the basics ,who is telling sany operator to become master in h to h ?

 

[Kumaoni]

This is a bad perspective. For one, soldiers work as part of a team. Unless some voodoo magic happens that leads to the entire section's weaponry getting jammed a single rifle out of order doesn't ultimately change the equation. Second, small arms are standoff weaponry. Unless the distance was already closed into substantially in the first place, this is a fruitless endeavor. Third, you don't have to continue the fight if it comes down to it depending on the mission and the neccessity of this gunfight. Preservation of you and your force may very well be the smarter decision and is far more likely to be the optimal decision.

But yet hand to hand combat has gotten reported in every single one of India’s wars, many more. Shit even US marines engaged insurgents in Iraq with hand to hand combat. Basic h to h is important.