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The whole Paltaan does undercover ops hence everybody has long hair and beard and wears whatever they want.

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People think that the same guys going on ops and being photographed while at it would be engaged in undercover ops. There will be separate outfits within units or maybe even whole Covert units dedicated to UC ops. Saying that everyone in Para SF is a UC operative is stupidity.

PS: I got your sarcasm. Adding to your point.
 

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SG is a very decent unit from what I am able to piece together

I have had some interesting conversations privately about them in recent weeks and it seems what sets them apart is 1) direct access to command from relatively low level operators 2) a very clear mandate on what they do. They aren’t sent out at the request of every local Tom dick and Harry, they only take part in operations that have a strategic value 3) their interactions with foreign SF are away from public eyes and hence there is scope for more in-depth cross pollination- there isn’t the demand to take part in CBMs and pose for local defence journos hence interactions can actually be meaningful and have tangible benefits 4) the focus on support staff is unparalleled in the Indian SF community- instead of just giving each operator a primary and secondary focus (as is done in PARA SF) they also have an extensive support staff and can roll in specialists from the entire service where needed hence their ops are planned in advance with specific skill sets in mind. In the other SF units they focus on adapting and overcoming shortcomings in real time more than specialisation 5) SG place a lot of effort on human capital and they try to make every operator of their’s an instructor in their own right. Every professional can see the value in having a cadre full of instructors- they are not juvenile foolhardy killing machines but cold and calculated operators that have been there and done that. This is perhaps the biggest differentiating factor of SG- their ranks are full of experienced and analytical people.


Perhaps there is a lesson here for the ‘vanilla’ SF units in India


(Of course having access to the cream of India’s military human capital is obviously a unique benefit too)
Any tidbits regarding their equipment levels ?
Also from this description perhaps SG is deployed in Green Beret kind of roles ?
 

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Any tidbits regarding their equipment levels ?
Also from this description perhaps SG is deployed in Green Beret kind of roles ?
It depends on their roles. They have a very wide array of roles. Equipment for each role would be different. And yes, I do think they are involved with unconventional warfare like the green berets.
 

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SG also supported the activities of the TSD
Isn't it shut down now? And the Colonel in charge of the TSD had a few attempts on his life...

Why was it shut down? Reports say bureaucracy, but how does that interfere with a division directly under the army chief?
 

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Isn't it shut down now? And the Colonel in charge of the TSD had a few attempts on his life...

Why was it shut down? Reports say bureaucracy, but how does that interfere with a division directly under the army chief?
The Reasons are myraid. Essentially they became too good at their job and were able to exploit the Political + Criminal + Terrorist nexus in India and the UPA II govt had an issue with Gen Malik. And despite the oppo Hungama about this nothing has been done to rectify the ills done those men under this GOI as well.

PS: leave conspiracy theories out of this.
 

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The Reasons are myraid. Essentially they became too good at their job and were able to exploit the Political + Criminal + Terrorist nexus in India and the UPA II govt had an issue with Gen Malik. And despite the oppo Hungama about this nothing has been done to rectify the ills done those men under this GOI as well.

PS: leave conspiracy theories out of this.
Gen malik or VKS? As faar as I know they operated completely under the chief and had done some exceptional ops but it became a collateral damage in a vicious maligning op against gen singh by ruling party just to divert attention from their own corrupt govt and it was put down by gen singh's successor because you know politics....
 

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Gen malik or VKS? As faar as I know they operated completely under the chief and had done some exceptional ops but it became a collateral damage in a vicious maligning op against gen singh by ruling party just to divert attention from their own corrupt govt and it was put down by gen singh's successor because you know politics....
Yes sorry VKS. It was not just ruling party but Indian Army Generals as well.
 
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