Indian Special Forces (archived)

[uoftotaku]

Thanks. By the way I have some inkling that newly formed AFSOD have them. Any comments?

If anyone has them would be Garuds. They have highest funding and being newest formed units they have latest hardware. AFSOD unit mighy get them if they have their own funding structure.

 

[Janardan Shukla]

If anyone has them would be Garuds. They have highest funding and being newest formed units they have latest hardware. AFSOD unit mighy get them if they have their own funding structure.

Okay, ummm do you remember the recent news of purchasing of new equipments worth 850 crores for SF. Most of the members here speculated that it was for AFSOD. I think they are right. It was also mentioned in the news that gears are same as used by US SF. Since they use quad tube NVG that is why I inferred that AFSOD have got that.

 

[uoftotaku]

Okay, ummm do you remember the recent news of purchasing of new equipments worth 850 crores for SF. Most of the members here speculated that it was for AFSOD. I think they are right. It was also mentioned in the news that gears are same as used by US SF. Since they use quad tube NVG that is why I inferred that AFSOD have got that.

That purchase was for new SCAR-H rifles and associated accessories mostly.

Quad tubes are
- On Export Control List hence can't be bought off the shelf, would need ITAR waiver under FMS
- Insanely expensive. The best ones are sold to SOCOM for ard US$75,000 each..no way in hell we can or should afford those. Much cheaper options available from Tonbo and Mepro.

 

[Janardan Shukla]

That purchase was for new SCAR-H rifles and associated accessories mostly.

Quad tubes are
- On Export Control List hence can't be bought off the shelf, would need ITAR waiver under FMS
- Insanely expensive. The best ones are sold to SOCOM for ard US$75,000 each..no way in hell we can or should afford those. Much cheaper options available from Tonbo and Mepro.

Ohhh thanks for the information. One more question are we planning to acquire it from Tonbo or Mepro?

 

[rkhanna]

That purchase was for new SCAR-H rifles and associated accessories mostly.

Quad tubes are
- On Export Control List hence can't be bought off the shelf, would need ITAR waiver under FMS
- Insanely expensive. The best ones are sold to SOCOM for ard US$75,000 each..no way in hell we can or should afford those. Much cheaper options available from Tonbo and Mepro.

Quad tubes are made by TOnbo and exported to a number of nato SOF already. Even if not upto American tech spec it would be a quantun leap over current night fighting capability

We don't need to import. We need someone in planning who knows the fuck what he is doing

 

[Janardan Shukla]

Quad tubes are made by TOnbo and exported to a number of nato SOF already. Even if not upto American tech spec it would be a quantun leap over current night fighting capability

We don't need to import. We need someone in planning who knows the fuck what he is doing

I agree with you but don't say it so openly. Afterall we are not like 'China' we ' respect intellectual properties of individual nations '.

 

[WolfPack86]

NSG may use private commercial planes for anti-hijacking drill
NEW DELHI: Private commercial planes may soon be used for anti-hijacking exercises with the Home Ministry suggesting the anti-terror elite force National Security Guard (NSG) explored the option.

The suggestion for using commercial planes was made by home ministry officials during an hour-long meeting, chaired by Home Minister Rajnath Singh.

At present, the NSG is empowered for requisition of aircraft from any operator registered in India in case of emergency, while its anti-hiijacking exercise could be conducted on any government or Air India aircraft.

"If the anti-hijacking drill is conducted on a commercial plane, it will help both the airline as well as the NSG to understand various nuances involved in such a crisis," a home ministry official said.

The ministry will soon provide a chopper to the NSG to be used in case of exigencies. Though the NSG had two choppers, one had a crash landing some time ago, while the other was non-functional.

"The NSG urgently needs a helicopter. The chopper may be given from the existing fleet of the Border Security Force or from the Indian Air Force. We are working on it," the official said.

During the meeting, the home minister reviewed the functioning of the NSG and took stock of various facets of the elite anti-terror force.

He was given a detailed briefing on the working of the NSG by its Director General Sudhir Pratap Singh and other top officials.

Singh also enquired about the preparedness of the NSG commandos, popularly known as 'Black Cat', to deal with exigencies or terror situation, official sources said.

Union Minister of State for Home Affairs Kiren Rijiju, Home Secretary Rajiv Mehrishi, senior officials of the home ministry also attended the meeting.

The NSG was set up in 1984 as a federal contingency deployment force to tackle all facets of terrorism in the country.

The primary role of the force is to combat terrorism in areas where activity of terrorists assumes serious proportions, and the state police and other central police forces cannot cope with the situation.

The NSG is a force specially-equipped and trained to deal with specific situations and is therefore, to be used only in exceptional situations.

The force is not designed to undertake the functions of the state police forces or other paramilitary forces of India.

It is modelled on the pattern of the SAS of the UK and GSG-9 of Germany. It is a task-oriented force and has two complementary elements in the form of the Special Action Group comprising Army personnel and the Special Ranger Groups, comprising personnel drawn from the central paramilitary forces/state police force.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...cking-drill/articleshow/59002790.cms?from=mdr

 

[uoftotaku]

We don't need to import. We need someone in planning who knows the fuck what he is doing

Well said. Half of them still live in 1950 and the others are only interested in getting gucci gear with fat commission packages

 

[rkhanna]

I agree with you but don't say it so openly. Afterall we are not like 'China' we ' respect intellectual properties of individual nations '.

Sirji. No intellectual theft at all. Tonbo has been making and marketing quadtube NVGs for over a couple of years now . It's on their website as part of product portfolio

 

[Janardan Shukla]

Sirji. No intellectual theft at all. Tonbo has been making and marketing quadtube NVGs for over a couple of years now . It's on their website as part of product portfolio

Ohhh sorry I misunderstood you.

 

[apoorv465]

Quad tubes are made by TOnbo and exported to a number of nato SOF already. Even if not upto American tech spec it would be a quantun leap over current night fighting capability

We don't need to import. We need someone in planning who knows the fuck what he is doing

They seem very good
http://tonboimaging.com/products/aerial/evs/bnvd-p/
Why are we not buying them?

 

[apoorv465]

Anybody has a HD pic or the pic of that spec ops badge?

 

[rkhanna]

Anybody has a HD pic or the pic of that spec ops badge?

Must be new. The 301s were not a true dedicated SOF aviation asset. They must be part of the transition to SOD

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

New modification
Rails and NVG mount on new MKU Ballistic Helmet

 

[Shadow]

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New modification
Rails and NVG mount on new MKU Ballistic Helmet

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[Shadow]

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New modification
Rails and NVG mount on new MKU Ballistic Helmet

But those plate carriers are a disappointment.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

But those plate carriers are a disappointment.

New ones will be delivered soon.

 

[abingdonboy]

New ones will be delivered soon.

The thing about the IA is they are just mind blowingly incompetent at standardisation. so there are now 4 different helmets in use (model 1974, Patka, those ancient ones with camo netting and the new ACHs) and easily 7-8 different types of plate carriers in service excluding at least 2-3 different types of webbing/tactical vests.


Even when they induct a new helmet like the ACH you see some with the old leaf print camo cover (for no justifiable reason), some with the standard IA pattern and then some others still with the woodland MARPAT pattern. And then some units don’t even have any camo covers for their ACHs.


$20bn/year spent to look less regimented and disciplined than ISIS!

 

[abingdonboy]

New ones will be delivered soon.

3 different types of helmet, 3 different types of plate carrier. Standard Indian army.

 

[abingdonboy]

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New modification
Rails and NVG mount on new MKU Ballistic Helmet

Will they get camo covers for those helmets?