Indian Special Forces (archived)

[vampyrbladez]

Any reason why we aren't replacing our MP5, most other countries have already started replacing them with 5.56 carbine.

Is it our laziness or is MP5 still more practical then anything on our drawing board.

NSG is a HRT (Hostage Rescue Team) unit as well as a CT (Counter Terrorist) unit. To prevent collateral damage 9mm is prefered. For penetrating armored targets 5.56 mm & 7.62 mm is used.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Any reason why we aren't replacing our MP5, most other countries have already started replacing them with 5.56 carbine.

Is it our laziness or is MP5 still more practical then anything on our drawing board.

A large force like NSG won't change it's standard issued SMG until existing Mp5 fails. For that they need some action. Now you can say it is the success of RR in J&K or intelligence agencies outside J&K that situations like hostage rescue or hijacks are not arising and NSG not getting enough action.

I have never seen Mp5 series SMGs with NSG commandos deployed in the J&K and those who are training with COBRAs for anti naxal ops. NSG knows that Mp5 doesn't pack enough punch for these regions so they modified their AKs and SIGs instead.

If you are following their recent tenders then you will get to know that their current focus in on support equipment like vehicles , drones , 360deg cameras for K9s , shields , shooting ranges and construction/renovations of hubs. Still they conducted trials of UZI Pro & SIG MPX last year and inducted some pieces. They showed no further interest in replacing any standard issued firearm.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Is that a velvet covered foot step on the bottom left?

Yup. I guess it was during inauguration of Maj. Unnikrishnan indoor shooting range at NSG Mumbai hub.

 

[Subham Show]

If I may ask, what kind of radios are these guys carrying ? I don't see a ear piece.

Looks like motorola handheld 2 way radios .

 

[Holy Triad]

MARCOS in Kashmir with Tavor TAR-21 with Mepro Mor Sight , AK-103 and Negev Light machine gun

MARCOS Operatives with Tavor TAR-21 and Negev 5.56mm Light Machine Gun

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

A large force like NSG won't change it's standard issued SMG until existing Mp5 fails. For that they need some action. Now you can say it is the success of RR in J&K or intelligence agencies outside J&K that situations like hostage rescue or hijacks are not arising and NSG not getting enough action.

I have never seen Mp5 series SMGs with NSG commandos deployed in the J&K and those who are training with COBRAs for anti naxal ops. NSG knows that Mp5 doesn't pack enough punch for these regions so they modified their AKs and SIGs instead.

If you are following their recent tenders then you will get to know that their current focus in on support equipment like vehicles , drones , 360deg cameras for K9s , shields , shooting ranges and construction/renovations of hubs. Still they conducted trials of UZI Pro & SIG MPX last year and inducted some pieces. They showed no further interest in replacing any standard issued firearm.

Just a correction. They do have Mp5s in kashmir but usually don't use when they actually conduct ops or drills.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Special Protection Group ( SPG )
Counter Assault Team
What's SIU on their T shirt ? Anyone

 

[shankyz]

Special Protection Group ( SPG )
Counter Assault Team
What's SIU on their T shirt ? Anyone

Special Intervention Unit ?

30 charssssssssssss

 

[Maddy_9UY]

Special Intervention Unit ?

30 charssssssssssss

Something to do with anti sniping??

 

[Prashant12]

EXCLUSIVE: Indian Army's Special Forces to get new weapons


New Delhi: The best deserve the best. Or, that is at least what the Indian Army may be thinking as it begins an effort to ensure that its special forces battalions — para-commandos, mostly — get world-class weapons. A high-level committee has just cleared the purchase of new weapons for the Special Forces, whether it is rifles, carbines, light and heavy machine guns, even parachutes and special helmets.

The weapons will be what the special forces of the United States armed forces use; they will be purchased through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) route and is expected by the year-end. The total cost is likely to be about Rs 850 crore.

The decision cleared by the defence ministry's Services Capital Acquisition Plan Categorization Higher Committee (SCAPHCC), headed by a top-level army officer earlier this week has cleared the purchase of 1,500 carbines, 1,100 rifles, 400 parachutes, 100 sniper rifles, 750 light machine-guns and also, technical equipment that will enhance the capability of the special forces soldier.

They include silencers for the rifles/carbines that will muffle the sound of the shot being fired, telescopic sights (to be used during the day and different ones for use after dark), helmets that will have night vision goggles, heavy machine-guns and of course, necessary ammunition.

The special forces teams have been particularly active; they were responsible, along with some infantrymen for the surgical strikes that were carried out in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK) after the Uri terror attacks. They have also been used in the North-east and very often when there are terror attacks.

They are some of the fittest and best-trained officers and men and now, they will get the best possible weapons. The high-quality weapons could make a lot of difference in a critical, high-risk mission.

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...rmys-special-forces-to-get-new-weapons/459700

 

[ezsasa]

EXCLUSIVE: Indian Army's Special Forces to get new weapons


New Delhi: The best deserve the best. Or, that is at least what the Indian Army may be thinking as it begins an effort to ensure that its special forces battalions — para-commandos, mostly — get world-class weapons. A high-level committee has just cleared the purchase of new weapons for the Special Forces, whether it is rifles, carbines, light and heavy machine guns, even parachutes and special helmets.

The weapons will be what the special forces of the United States armed forces use; they will be purchased through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) route and is expected by the year-end. The total cost is likely to be about Rs 850 crore.

The decision cleared by the defence ministry's Services Capital Acquisition Plan Categorization Higher Committee (SCAPHCC), headed by a top-level army officer earlier this week has cleared the purchase of 1,500 carbines, 1,100 rifles, 400 parachutes, 100 sniper rifles, 750 light machine-guns and also, technical equipment that will enhance the capability of the special forces soldier.

They include silencers for the rifles/carbines that will muffle the sound of the shot being fired, telescopic sights (to be used during the day and different ones for use after dark), helmets that will have night vision goggles, heavy machine-guns and of course, necessary ammunition.

The special forces teams have been particularly active; they were responsible, along with some infantrymen for the surgical strikes that were carried out in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK) after the Uri terror attacks. They have also been used in the North-east and very often when there are terror attacks.

They are some of the fittest and best-trained officers and men and now, they will get the best possible weapons. The high-quality weapons could make a lot of difference in a critical, high-risk mission.

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...rmys-special-forces-to-get-new-weapons/459700

Let’s wait for confirmation from defence correspondents..

 

[abingdonboy]

EXCLUSIVE: Indian Army's Special Forces to get new weapons


New Delhi: The best deserve the best. Or, that is at least what the Indian Army may be thinking as it begins an effort to ensure that its special forces battalions — para-commandos, mostly — get world-class weapons. A high-level committee has just cleared the purchase of new weapons for the Special Forces, whether it is rifles, carbines, light and heavy machine guns, even parachutes and special helmets.

The weapons will be what the special forces of the United States armed forces use; they will be purchased through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) route and is expected by the year-end. The total cost is likely to be about Rs 850 crore.

The decision cleared by the defence ministry's Services Capital Acquisition Plan Categorization Higher Committee (SCAPHCC), headed by a top-level army officer earlier this week has cleared the purchase of 1,500 carbines, 1,100 rifles, 400 parachutes, 100 sniper rifles, 750 light machine-guns and also, technical equipment that will enhance the capability of the special forces soldier.

They include silencers for the rifles/carbines that will muffle the sound of the shot being fired, telescopic sights (to be used during the day and different ones for use after dark), helmets that will have night vision goggles, heavy machine-guns and of course, necessary ammunition.

The special forces teams have been particularly active; they were responsible, along with some infantrymen for the surgical strikes that were carried out in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK) after the Uri terror attacks. They have also been used in the North-east and very often when there are terror attacks.

They are some of the fittest and best-trained officers and men and now, they will get the best possible weapons. The high-quality weapons could make a lot of difference in a critical, high-risk mission.

https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...rmys-special-forces-to-get-new-weapons/459700

1) is this in actuality for the SOD? If not the numbers here are not enough to cover even 30% of the PARA SF strength.
2) these sorts of things (rifles, parachutes, helmets etc) are SO basic they shouldn’t need to be celebrated or reported like this. That they are is a tragic reminder how outdated Indian armed forces aren’t and how pathetic the procurement system is.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Do we have any kind of standardisation or nah?

I think our forces have some 100 varieties of gun and even the same kind of gun has different types of variation in attachments.
Is this an advantage or a disadvantage?

When u see special forces in action u can see soldiers of the same group having different types of Helemt different uniform and of course guns.
If it's left to the soldiers to choose what they want to wear then it's ok, a soldier will sport wahatever he is most comfortable with. But what if one personnel from the group recived new helmet and the other didn't and that's the reason for non standardisation?

 

[rkhanna]

1) is this in actuality for the SOD? If not the numbers here are not enough to cover even 30% of the PARA SF strength.
2) these sorts of things (rifles, parachutes, helmets etc) are SO basic they shouldn’t need to be celebrated or reported like this. That they are is a tragic reminder how outdated Indian armed forces aren’t and how pathetic the procurement system is.

I Agree. the numbers seem to suggest that all this is for the new SOD set up.

I have a feeling 10 years from now we will all be talking about how our Vanilla SOF units have finally been relagated to Commando duty.

Anyyways for now i only pray that the SOD has permanent cadre otherwise lol time to shut this thread down

 

[rkhanna]

Do we have any kind of standardisation or nah?

I think our forces have some 100 varieties of gun and even the same kind of gun has different types of variation in attachments.
Is this an advantage or a disadvantage?

When u see special forces in action u can see soldiers of the same group having different types of Helemt different uniform and of course guns.
If it's left to the soldiers to choose what they want to wear then it's ok, a soldier will sport wahatever he is most comfortable with. But what if one personnel from the group recived new helmet and the other didn't and that's the reason for non standardisation?

Saarji lol you just banging your head on the wall with such questions.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

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[Unknowncommando 2]

SIG MPX & FN P90

FORCE COMMANDER SAINI SIR

Shri G.Kishan Reddy Minister of State for Home Affairs was briefed by Shri Sudeep Lakhtakia, IPS ,DG NSG on various training activities being conducted at Manesar during his visit today. Honorable minister also inaugurated a new Gym made for NSG commandos.

 

[abingdonboy]

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Days of MP5 are long since over. NSG needs a modern 5.56 carbine as a standard issue.

MP5 can remain for anti-hijack only.

 

[abingdonboy]

I Agree. the numbers seem to suggest that all this is for the new SOD set up.

I have a feeling 10 years from now we will all be talking about how our Vanilla SOF units have finally been relagated to Commando duty.

Anyyways for now i only pray that the SOD has permanent cadre otherwise lol time to shut this thread down

SOD will only be used for the most high profile and strategic missions. That won’t change a thing. Vanilla SOF units will be doing the same job they do today in 10 years time.

 

[vampyrbladez]

SOD will only be used for the most high profile and strategic missions. That won’t change a thing. Vanilla SOF units will be doing the same job they do today in 10 years time.

Isn't the start of a SOCOM unit great news?

Regarding equipment, look how better equipment always makes its way to lower tier forces. See below the after effects of NSG training State Police SRU (Special Response Units) and crosstraining between the SRUs themselves.

NSG

State Police SRU (Special Response Unit)