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Not a good idea. There have been too many instances of weapons leaking to terrorist from J&K police. Some due to ambush, but most due to some policemen switching over to terrorist side and de-camping with their weapons.
We do not want such sophisticated weapons like Sig-716 and mpx to fall into the hands of terrorists. They are the top of the line equipment that army currently have.
 

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Not a good idea. There have been too many instances of weapons leaking to terrorist from J&K police. Some due to ambush, but most due to some policemen switching over to terrorist side and de-camping with their weapons.
We do not want such sophisticated weapons like Sig-716 and mpx to fall into the hands of terrorists. They are the top of the line equipment that army currently have.
Infinitesimally more numbers of High tech shiit have been captured by Talibunnies and ISfags from Coalition forces
Just coz there is a chance of weapons getting in the hand of Ghazis shouldn't be a deterrent to properly modernize the forces
 

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Not a good idea. There have been too many instances of weapons leaking to terrorist from J&K police. Some due to ambush, but most due to some policemen switching over to terrorist side and de-camping with their weapons.
We do not want such sophisticated weapons like Sig-716 and mpx to fall into the hands of terrorists. They are the top of the line equipment that army currently have.
Most of those guns are โ€œleakedโ€ by regular policemen, SOG guys are hardcore Porki hunters.
 
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Not a good idea. There have been too many instances of weapons leaking to terrorist from J&K police. Some due to ambush, but most due to some policemen switching over to terrorist side and de-camping with their weapons.
We do not want such sophisticated weapons like Sig-716 and mpx to fall into the hands of terrorists. They are the top of the line equipment that army currently have.
SOG will have them not Armed Police, and leaking weapons is not limited to Police sadly the recent case of ambush where 9 army personal were KIA is a example. And this is not a argument that we wont use a good weapon because enemy will capture it.
 

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This should be protested by all the private arms industries in India.

This is a P-72 RECR "Wrecker" by SSS Defence
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There is a marksman version and a carbine version of this rifle available as well.

TAVOR X-95 is made in India with Adani Defence. The paras already use the TAR-21 older variants to deadly effect. Need I say more?

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Why were these not even considered?

No state or central governments must be allowed to import when there are local options available. No matter how urgent it is.

  1. What is the need to go for foreign rifles when there are those available by Indian makers in India?
  2. If every state and agency keeps importing "top global standard" rifles, then when and how does Indian industry evolve?
  3. The private sector is not an endless well of resources; they have limited capital and budgets. What assurances can the Government give them they will not collapse?
There are many AR-15 rifle fanboys here, but the reality is that if we have to become self-reliant, there will have to be partial curbs on imports no matter how undemocratic or unfair they are.

Otherwise, kiss the private sector goodbye.
 

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This should be protested by all the private arms industries in India.

This is a P-72 RECR "Wrecker" by SSS Defence
View attachment 129641

There is a marksman version and a carbine version of this rifle available as well.

TAVOR X-95 is made in India with Adani Defence. The paras already use the TAR-21 older variants to deadly effect. Need I say more?

View attachment 129643

Why were these not even considered?

No state or central governments must be allowed to import when there are local options available. No matter how urgent it is.

  1. What is the need to go for foreign rifles when there are those available by Indian makers in India?
  2. If every state and agency keeps importing "top global standard" rifles, then when and how does Indian industry evolve?
  3. The private sector is not an endless well of resources; they have limited capital and budgets. What assurances can the Government give them they will not collapse?
There are many AR-15 rifle fanboys here, but the reality is that if we have to become self-reliant, there will have to be partial curbs on imports no matter how undemocratic or unfair they are.

Otherwise, kiss the private sector goodbye.
P72 is a given up case even by SSS defence.if they aren't taking it seriously how will others?
 

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P72 is a given up case even by SSS defence.if they aren't taking it seriously how will others?
Then what about X-95 or TAR-21s? These are proven assault rifles with extensive usage in CT operations.

Would it kill the UT government officials to buy indigenous weapons for once?

Why is it that despite the availability of local options, that a police force has to import?

Most of yโ€™all whining about JKP SOG buying 7.62x51mm SIG 716, are forgetting that the next most common gun in the Koteโ€™s of nearly every Indian State Police Force is the 7.62x51mm SLR after the Sterling and 0.303 LE(some states like mine).
I am not whining about the caliber but the utter disregard for domestically-made assault rifles.
 

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Then what about X-95 or TAR-21s? These are proven assault rifles with extensive usage in CT operations.

Would it kill the UT government officials to buy indigenous weapons for once?

Why is it that despite the availability of local options, that a police force has to import?



I am not whining about the caliber but the utter disregard for domestically-made assault rifles.
We dont have one in the calibre given 7.62x51.tavor 7 is not made in india according to me.and SOG aint gonna get any gun from european manufacturers because of hooman rights thing.
 

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We dont have one in the calibre given 7.62x51.tavor 7 is not made in india according to me.and SOG aint gonna get any gun from european manufacturers because of hooman rights thing.
TAVORs are made by the JV between IWI-Adani. The IP is still Israeli but the manufacturing is Indian. This is just some bullshit cooked up by a lazy/corrupt procurement team.
 

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TAVORs are made by the JV between IWI-Adani. The IP is still Israeli but the manufacturing is Indian. This is just some bullshit cooked up by a lazy/corrupt procurement team.
I am talking about 7.62x51 weapon we only make 5.56 tavors here
 

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Then what about X-95 or TAR-21s? These are proven assault rifles with extensive usage in CT operations.

Would it kill the UT government officials to buy indigenous weapons for once?

Why is it that despite the availability of local options, that a police force has to import?



I am not whining about the caliber but the utter disregard for domestically-made assault rifles.
Wasnโ€™t referring to you
 

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We dont have one in the calibre given 7.62x51.tavor 7 is not made in india according to me.and SOG aint gonna get any gun from european manufacturers because of hooman rights thing.
We should ditch bullpups
Anyway we're filling the pocket of Jews, why not do it by purchasing a few Arads
 

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We should ditch bullpups
Anyway we're filling the pocket of Jews, why not do it by purchasing a few Arads
They are also very few of those who don't put strings on our procurements and have tech at par or even better than the West. Bullpups are pretty effective in urban warfare such as those fought in J&K. This is not an open battlefield.

Are you suggesting Caracals? BTW India fills more Arab pockets than any deal with the Juice.
 

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They are also very few of those who don't put strings on our procurements and have tech at par or even better than the West. Bullpups are pretty effective in urban warfare such as those fought in J&K. This is not an open battlefield.

Are you suggesting Caracals? BTW India fills more Arab pockets than any deal with the Juice.
I'm suggesting Arads
Arads are an excellent AR based platform they offer both 11.5" and 14.5", so 'muh bullpups are compact' argument doesn't hold water
They also have one with 16.5" in the drawing board

Not to mention it is modular as fuck

It's difficult to stay on target with a bullpup, expecially if you're not used to it
Whereas a conventional system is better in handling, target acquisition, reloading etc etc

Are you suggesting Caracals?
Caracals are good weapons too
It didn't go anywhere
Hopefully Dalals get to phuck mossad chicks instead of FSB chicks and starts lobbying for Arads for the carbine
 

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