Indian Police Force

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Chattisgarh police commando with sig 550 rifles with bipods and acog sights

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BMP (Bihar Military Police)

Jawan AR-M1F

 

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@Maharaj samudragupt here a bihar Police swat commando with AR-M1F41 armed with a bayonet. View attachment 81965

Bihar SWAT operates in Urban areas right??

 

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The tactical units I mentioned should be used only for high profile targets, when there are high chances of intel leak when coordinating with police (which has happened before many times). In order for the intel to stay within the organization (NIA, IB, etc) these tactical teams should be developed. I am talking about small team like 200 well trained operatives working for that particular organization.

It is very hard to change stubborn/traditional Indian mindset especially in the case of Defense and police related matters.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

It is very hard to change stubborn/traditional Indian mindset especially in the case of Defense and police related matters.

This needs to change!!! No wonder our military and police looks outdated cuz of outdated mind which doesn't think outside the box.

 

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This needs to change!!! No wonder our military and police looks outdated cuz of outdated mind which doesn't think outside the box.

Yes this needs to change but it is hard to do

 

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Bihar SWAT operates in Urban areas right??

Yeah, sort of.

 

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Yes this needs to change but it is hard to do as you see from discussions from some thread including this one.

If something is not broken, then you don't have to fix it. You just can't make a force on the basis of its counterpart from somewhere and expect it to work here fluently. Police is a machinery, and that machinery is working as it should. This is India, and the stubborn Indian mindset is the mindset which will work. It's easy to talk about reforms, reform of anything when you have no role in it. And why does your last sentence sounds like people are barring you from what you want? Everyone is as much of a citizen as you are, it's not something others can do and you cannot? Because it appears to be so as implied.

 

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If something is not broken, then you don't have to fix it. You just can't make a force on the basis of its counterpart from somewhere and expect it to work here fluently. Police is a machinery, and that machinery is working as it should. This is India, and the stubborn Indian mindset is the mindset which will work. It's easy to talk about reforms, reform of anything when you have no role in it. And why does your last sentence sounds like people are barring you from what you want? Everyone is as much of a citizen as you are, it's not something others can do and you cannot? Because it appears to be so as implied.

Not everything is working in Indian Police Machinery. There are many short comings and problems that plague Indian Police Forces such as extreme corruption. It’s not just one or two countries that are doing this vast majority of state and central police agencies in major countries all across the world have well armed police tactical units. If they are working across the world in diverse environments and conditions why can’t they work in India. I am not saying everything will go smoothly at first there will be many hickups along the way but slowly and steadily things will get smooth. Having stubborn mindset about everything is not good. Policing is changing across world and we must change and adapt to this. I am not saying we must absorb everything that comes our way but we must absorb all reforms that can help us improve the productivity of the Police force and discard the rest. I value and respect all opinions of my fellow DFI members the last sentence in my previous post was in bad taste. I hope you can forgive me.

 

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Not everything is working in Indian Police Machinery. There are many short comings and problems that plague Indian Police Forces such as extreme corruption. It’s not just one or two countries that are doing this vast majority of state and central police agencies in major countries all across the world have well armed police tactical units. If they are working across the world in diverse environments and conditions why can’t they work in India. I am not saying everything will go smoothly at first there will be many hickups along the way but slowly and steadily things will get smooth. Having stubborn mindset about everything is not good. Policing is changing across world and we must change and adapt to this. I am not saying we must absorb everything that comes our way but we must absorb all reforms that can help us improve the productivity of the Police force and discard the rest. I value and respect all opinions of my fellow DFI members the last sentence in my previous post was in bad taste. I hope you can forgive me.

You, As a citizen and as a stakeholder, have rights to express your opinions, no doubt, i only resorted to reply because of your last sentence, which seemingly appeared to disparage others with a conflicting opinion, it's okay, things do happen. No need to apologise, peace.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

Not everything is working in Indian Police Machinery. There are many short comings and problems that plague Indian Police Forces such as extreme corruption. It’s not just one or two countries that are doing this vast majority of state and central police agencies in major countries all across the world have well armed police tactical units. If they are working across the world in diverse environments and conditions why can’t they work in India. I am not saying everything will go smoothly at first there will be many hickups along the way but slowly and steadily things will get smooth. Having stubborn mindset about everything is not good. Policing is changing across world and we must change and adapt to this. I am not saying we must absorb everything that comes our way but we must absorb all reforms that can help us improve the productivity of the Police force and discard the rest. I value and respect all opinions of my fellow DFI members the last sentence in my previous post was in bad taste. I hope you can forgive me.

Indonesia a country which is 3 times smaller in size and 5 times smaller in population are more armed (per capita) than India. Not just Indonesia, but many European countries are more armed despite having no immediate threat to their sovereignty.
Below is Indonesia's internal Intelligence agency's tactical unit armed with Sig Sauer 516!!
I also made a thread of security ecosystem of Indonesia in world police thread, where even their narcotics bureau is well armed.

 

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UP Police SWAT with polish akms and insas side folding variant

 

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Punjab Police SWAT with SIG 516, (x95 and ar-m1f in background)

 

[Johny_Baba]

Punjab Police SWAT with SIG 516, (x95 and ar-m1f in background) View attachment 82109

A slight correction,this isn't SIG516 but SIG553LB (LB stands for Long Barrel,basially carbine length barrel of some 13.5" on a compact carbine package of SIG553).
SIG516 is just AR-15 variant with short-stroke gas piston system, now discontinued from production.

SIG553LB minus rails

SIG516

 

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A slight correction,this isn't SIG516 but SIG553LB (LB stands for Long Barrel,basially carbine length barrel of some 13.5" on a compact carbine package of SIG553).
SIG516 is just AR-15 variant with short-stroke gas piston system, now discontinued from production.

SIG553LB minus rails
View attachment 82110

SIG516
View attachment 82111

Got it, a modified 556 and 516 from front look quite similar, the receiver gives it away

 

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Bihar Military Police with Excalibur

 

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JAP-1 Bodyguard with SIG552-2P

 

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Maharashtra Police Jawan with Ghatak

 

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Maharashtra Police Ghaatak assault rifle