Indian Ocean Developments

[LETHALFORCE]

ports are not naval bases

 

[Koji]

All of those that are listed are considered by the USN to be part of the "string of pearls"

 

[LETHALFORCE]

still not naval bases and USA will keep China out of gwadar

 

[Koji]

still not naval bases and USA will keep China out of gwadar

Did you not see the article? The US is ENCOURAGING Chinese presence in the Indian Ocean. Plus, the Gwadar Port was paid for by the Chinese, and the US doesn't have any strong say.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

article can say anything, Chinese will not be in gwadar not matter how much they paid, that's irrelevant to USA.

 

[Koji]

article can say anything, Chinese will not be in gwadar not matter how much they paid, that's irrelevant to USA.

How do you know that the Chinese will not be there?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

i am sure, i won't reveal my sources but they are credible, chinese were suppose to be in gwadar years ago why haven't they?????

 

[Koji]

hahahhaha. Give me links/sources or don't assert.


"The Gwadar Port was built on a turnkey basis by China and signifies an enlarging Chinese footprint in a critically important area. Opened in spring 2007 by then Pakistani military ruler General Pervez Musharraf, in the presence of Chinese Communications Minister Li Shenglin, Gwadar Port is now being expanded into a naval base with Chinese technical and financial assistance."

"China has acknowledged that Gwadar’s strategic value is no less than that of the Karakoram Highway, which helped cement the China-Pakistan nexus. In addition to Gwadar serving as a potential Chinese naval anchor, Beijing is also interested in turning it into an energy-transport hub by building an oil pipeline from Gwadar into Chinese-ruled Xinjiang."
Gwadar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And it was Admiral Timothy J. Keating, who heads the Hawaii-based US Pacific Command, that said he encourages Chinese presence. It is not a journalist whose guessing, but an actual military commander. The Admiral even wants eventual Chinese participation in the Indo-US Malabar exercise.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

wiki is not a good source anything better?? look at the obivious china is not in gwadar and probably never will be.

 

[Koji]

wiki is not a good source anything better?? look at the obivious china is not in gwadar and probably never will be.

How about the Admiral's own words.

Do you even have a source? At least I posted something.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

PPP, MQM at loggerheads on future of Gwadar Port | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

2002 originally agreed and still nothing and never will be

 

[LETHALFORCE]

How about the Admiral's own words.

Do you even have a source? At least I posted something.

i don't consider wiki a reliable source, especially when USA is keeping china out.

 

[Koji]

PPP, MQM at loggerheads on future of Gwadar Port | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

2002 originally agreed and still nothing and never will be

What the hell...this article mentions nothing about the strategic importance of the Gwadar Port for the Chinese. The sole mention it brings up is that the Chinese funded it.

The entire article is about who which Pakistani entitiy will operate the Port.

Nice try, but this article is bogus. It proves nothing.

 

[Koji]

i don't consider wiki a reliable source, especially when USA is keeping china out.

How is the US keeping China out? AFAIK, Chinese presence in Pakistan is as heavy as can be.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

China shelves refinery project at Gwadar | Pakistan Realog

 

[Koji]

China shelves refinery project at Gwadar | Pakistan Realog

This article is not relevant again!

Just b/c China decided against a refinery (against Pakistani wishes), it was an independent move (and not influenced by the US).

 

[LETHALFORCE]

IntelliBriefs: China calls halt to Gwadar refinery


The port was officially declared functional last December, yet the outlook there is also uncertain.

Ports and Shipping Minister Babar Khan Ghauri said late last month that the port may be shut down if the navy did not vacate the land

Pakistan wants 12 billion and chinese hot shots can't afford it.

 

[Koji]

IntelliBriefs: China calls halt to Gwadar refinery


The port was officially declared functional last December, yet the outlook there is also uncertain.

How does this influence anything LF? It is just an Oil Refinery. The Port is still there.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

read the article if china dosen't provide 12 billion in funding bye bye china.

 

[Koji]

read the article if china dosen't provide 12 billion in funding bye bye china.

Give me a quote. I don't see it.