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If that is the case why we have seperated civilian and militry reactor as per US nuke deal?

If we had our Uranium reserve sufficient then we would have ask for tech only and not material from west.
simple reason - economic point

how much does it take to produce from an indian mine vs foreign mine

obviously the cost of establishment of a new mine requires investment with public backlash not to mention civil procedures obstructing such projects..

foreign mines for civil.self mines for nuclear ourpose
 

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simple reason - economic point

how much does it take to produce from an indian mine vs foreign mine

obviously the cost of establishment of a new mine requires investment with public backlash not to mention civil procedures obstructing such projects..

foreign mines for civil.self mines for nuclear ourpose
when it comes to strategic needs money is no concern.
 
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Your view is short sighted, Initially its costly to set up a facility but in long run its far more cheaper to produce in India than import ..

simple reason - economic point

how much does it take to produce from an indian mine vs foreign mine
 

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Your view is short sighted, Initially its costly to set up a facility but in long run its far more cheaper to produce in India than import ..
need not be always.depends on many factors.though self reliance importance is undeniable
 

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Provide some examples regarding the topic you are talking, Need not to be always and factores regarding what part in the nuclear material production in country ? ...

need not be always.depends on many factors.though self reliance importance is undeniable
 

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Ok, so we have lots of Uranium and Thorium. What about Plutonium?

Is Plutonium mined (how much do we have?) or produced (What is the raw material?)?
 

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Indian nuke subs game-changer in next war


IT was announced recently that the first indigenously-built Indian nuclear submarine, INS Arihant, has commenced its sea trials. That would mean another six months for the submarine to become fully operational.

What are the implications of the induction of a nuclear submarine into the Indian fleet and the effects it can cause in its area of operations? I am sure it should be a source of serious concern for our naval planners.

It has also been learnt that the submarine can do a sustained speed of 24 knots for an unlimited period and that it would be armed with nuclear-tipped missiles and torpedoes.

I still remember with pride our naval supremacy in the 1965 war. It was primarily due to the presence of PN submarine Ghazi that the entire Indian fleet was forced to stay in harbour. India had none at the time.

Having learnt a lesson from the 1965 war, the Indian navy has never looked back and can now be termed a blue-water navy. It has also built an aircraft carrier. , It is already making warships, conventional submarines and small crafts.

The Indian Navy has global designs but in any future war it will use all its assets to cripple our navy.

A lot has changed since the 1965 war. The present era can rightly be termed a 'missile era'. In any future maritime conflict, anything on sea surface will find itself difficult to survive.

As is obvious, INS Arihant, due to its speed advantage and unlimited submerged endurance, can cover a much larger area of operations. Unlike conventional submarines, it can chase targets and can also escape after attack at much higher speeds.

The presence of Indian nuclear submarines in the war zone is most likely to act as a game changer. We may end up in a similar situation where India was in the 1965 war. There is serious food for thought for our maritime planners.

CDRE ( r ) SAJJAD ALI SHAH BOKHARI Islamabad
Indian nuke subs game-changer in next war - DAWN.COM

Commodore SAJJAD ALI SHAH BOKHARI is not aware that INS Arihant with nuke SLBM is not meant to chase targets, it is made to remain undetectable in vast sea.

for chasing fast moving target we have INS Chakra. May be when someone dont have nuke submarine they have all sorts of ideas, specially in Pakistani military due to their obsession with India.
 

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Indian nuke subs game-changer in next war



Indian nuke subs game-changer in next war - DAWN.COM

Commodore SAJJAD ALI SHAH BOKHARI is not aware that INS Arihant with nuke SLBM is not meant to chase targets, it is made to remain undetectable in vast sea.

for chasing fast moving target we have INS Chakra. May be when someone dont have nuke submarine they have all sorts of ideas, specially in Pakistani military due to their obsession with India.
Arihant is an Akula class sub as told by even the last Russian Ambassador to India. It has all the abilities to chase, hunt and also launch nukes.
 

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Arihant is an Akula class sub as told by even the last Russian Ambassador to India. It has all the abilities to chase, hunt and also launch nukes.
sir you want to send National strategic asset to do the job of Navy asset ?

In emergency it can do it, but not for regular war situation. When it can take out whole of Pakistan with its 10-12 nukes, why put our National strategic asset to chase and take out some third rated Chinese made ship of PN......
 

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Provide some examples regarding the topic you are talking, Need not to be always and factores regarding what part in the nuclear material production in country ? ...
cost a major factor

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-A-F/Australia/#.UiysPdIzOYU

Uranium in Kazakhstan | Nuclear Power in Kazakhstan

australia can produce at 80$/kg.

second limited availability of resources forcing foreign uranium for electricity and our uranium for defence purposes(my view as we are out of scrutiny here)

third environmental -no need to say.in a highly dense country like india,problems are definitely more severe

more over when we have an established exporter for our needs,Kazakhstan,to a lesser extent australia its not a bad option to buy
 

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Provide some examples regarding the topic you are talking, Need not to be always and factores regarding what part in the nuclear material production in country ? ...
cost a major factor

Australia's Uranium | Uranium Mining in Australia

Uranium in Kazakhstan | Nuclear Power in Kazakhstan

australia can produce at 80$/kg.

second limited availability of resources forcing foreign uranium for electricity and our uranium for defence purposes(my view as we are out of scrutiny here)

third environmental -no need to say.in a highly dense country like india,problems are definitely more severe

more over when we have an established exporter for our needs,Kazakhstan,to a lesser extent australia its not a bad option to buy
 

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sir you want to send National strategic asset to do the job of Navy asset ?

In emergency it can do it, but not for regular war situation. When it can take out whole of Pakistan with its 10-12 nukes, why put our National strategic asset to chase and take out some third rated Chinese made ship of PN......
till we lack numbers our choice is limited
 

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till we lack numbers our choice is limited
We already have assembly line for ATV, already third one is on Hull line and second one at assembly line, fourth one at drawing board and first one is about to enter sea trial.

Yeah after some years, we will have greater choice.
 

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We already have assembly line for ATV, already third one is on Hull line and second one at assembly line, fourth one at drawing board and first one is about to enter sea trial.

Yeah after some years, we will have greater choice.
you forgot scorpenes,extra kilo/akula leases in the coming up years..

for needs of india we require atleast 30 subs with 20 always active.
we now do not have even 20 subs..
till then we are at constraint
 

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you forgot scorpenes,extra kilo/akula leases in the coming up years..

for needs of india we require atleast 30 subs with 20 always active.
we now do not have even 20 subs..
till then we are at constraint
Sob we are talking about nuke subs with long endurances to chase and escape. Yeah scorpenes with AIP is goid may be few modified with our own nuke power plant. We the use it as SSK.
 

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Sob we are talking about nuke subs with long endurances to chase and escape. Yeah scorpenes with AIP is goid may be few modified with our own nuke power plant. We the use it as SSK.
sob has a very bad meaning.....
 

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