Indian nuclear submarines

[Kunal Biswas]

I disagree, India is forming the assets to protect CSGs and nuclear subs are required for the range. Pushing PN into her own waters is child's play.

You are most welcome to..
CSGs are important but the whole fleet of Nuke Subs are not for such purpose..

PN fleet is already is vastly inferior compare to IN western Fleet now thats number or quality..
PLAN is major concern of IN, The new battlefields for IN will be bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean..

 

[plugwater]

SSN class arihant is to escort CBG and SSBN arihant is to possess second strike capability.

 

[devx101]

SSN class arihant is to escort CBG and SSBN arihant is to possess second strike capability.

the one being built is a SSBN so when will SSN construction start, i guess IAC will be launched in a couple of years.

 

[plugwater]

the one being built is a SSBN so when will SSN construction start, i guess IAC will be launched in a couple of years.

Once the second arihant is finished. IAC-2 will take time, IN is confused whether to go for higher displacement or build like Iac-1.

 

[devx101]

Once the second arihant is finished. IAC-2 will take time, IN is confused whether to go for higher displacement or build like Iac-1.

so the third arihant will be a nuclear attack sub, is this official from GoI or are this independent reports?

about the IAC i think there was a article in livefist Livefist: Cochin Shipyard to build 5 aircraft carriers where it was stated that India will build at least 2 more AC's based on IAC-1(i.e. total 3 40k AC's)....

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Galaxy]

We need to do various testing and then Inducting of K-4. K-5 Missiles ASAP or will it remain semi secret as INS Arihant ?

 

[Armand2REP]

You are most welcome to..
CSGs are important but the whole fleet of Nuke Subs are not for such purpose..

PN fleet is already is vastly inferior compare to IN western Fleet now thats number or quality..
PLAN is major concern of IN, The new battlefields for IN will be bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean..

So what is the point of launching short range nukes at China from the Bay of Bengal?

 

[Galaxy]

So what is the point of launching short range nukes at China from the Bay of Bengal?

We will operate K-4 (3,500-5,000 Km) and K-5 (5,000 Km+) Missile equipped with INS Arihant. Both will be MIRV. Also, K-15 (1,000-1500 Km) missile too.

Once K-5 is launched from Bay of Bengal, It can hit Shanghai. 8)

Once K-5 is launched from Arabian Sea, It can hit Paris that also unstoppable. :thumb:

 

[Armand2REP]

Arihant will carry Shaurya with a range of 500km using a heavier nuke payload. It can only hit India from Bay of Bengal.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

So what is the point of launching short range nukes at China from the Bay of Bengal?

Conventional Sea Warfare, By means of Bay of Bengal & Andaman Sea..

Though Submarine based Missles can be fatal to Enemy Harbours near by..

Giving the ultimate range of a SSGN it can go far beyond battlefield zone near enemy heartland ( 5000KMs ) anywhere from south Pacific..

Arihant will carry Shaurya with a range of 500km using a heavier nuke payload. It can only hit India from Bay of Bengal.

That is today not for near future..

600km is enough to destroy enemy fleet combatants with help of UAVs or long range radars..

 

[Armand2REP]

These subs are for CBGs to operate from distant shores. India wants to project power all the way to South China Sea.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Power Projection Indeed, But practicality is too important..

 

[ace009]

So, what are the plans for IN nuke submarines - 4-5 SSBNs/ SSGNs and 6 SSNs?

Can anyone shed any light into this?

 

[sandeepdg]

Arihant will carry Shaurya with a range of 500km using a heavier nuke payload. It can only hit India from Bay of Bengal.

The K-15 is a naval version of the Shaurya and its range will be 700-1000 kms. Even the first Arihant will be armed with the K-15. Each Arihant can carry 12 K-15 missiles. And the SSBN version will be able to carry 4 K-4 missiles with a range of 3500+ kms. That is enough to hit Shanghai from somewhere near the coast of Brunei.

 

[sayareakd]

K-15 range must be secret, why on earth are we going to use K15 to strike at Chines capital and financial capital in worse case with that short range.

 

[sandeepdg]

K-15 range must be secret, why on earth are we going to use K15 to strike at Chines capital and financial capital in worse case with that short range.

Its no secret. Its range has been admitted by the DRDO itself. And K-15 is not an SLBM, and hence most probably it will never be used for hitting such vital far-off destinations. That task would be entrusted to the K-4, which in the future will become MIRVed. But yes, K-15 is nuclear capable, and I believe its more of a Pakistan centric missile for the Navy.

 

[ace009]

Its no secret. Its range has been admitted by the DRDO itself. And K-15 is not an SLBM, and hence most probably it will never be used for hitting such vital far-off destinations. That task would be entrusted to the K-4, which in the future will become MIRVed. But yes, K-15 is nuclear capable, and I believe its more of a Pakistan centric missile for the Navy.

I agree that K-15 is a Pakistan centric missile, at best it can be used to threaten a Chinese CBG.
About K-4 or K-5, any idea when the will be tested?

 

[Galaxy]

I agree that K-15 is a Pakistan centric missile, at best it can be used to threaten a Chinese CBG.
About K-4 or K-5, any idea when the will be tested?

2 Submarines of Arihant class will be operational by 2015. 1st will be equipped with K-15 by 2013 (Pak centric) and 2nd will be equipped with K-4 (China centric). (So, testing may be next year or so and operational by 2014-2015). K-15 is in production phase and will be inducted in 1st submarine within 18 months.

DRDO has not confirmed or denied existence of K-4 missile in media , but sources have confirmed about its existence , while K-4 is still under development and first test will not be held soon , instead DRDO want to carry

After Shourya ,now focus shifts to K-4 Missiles


Since, INS Arihant is 2nd strike capability. Hence, It's bound to be semi secretive. Few things won't be disclosed in advance for obvious reasons.

 

[ace009]

What's the name for the K-4 or K-5?