Indian Navy more likely to select F 18 than rafales

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Generally, any carrier based fighter which has Levcon/ Canard will have an advantage in short take off. Canard will help fighter to reduce landing speed. This sort of designs are more suitable for carriers particularly like us which are shorter in length compared to US carriers. After burner thrust is also very important to carrier based fighters compared to airforce fighters as the afterburner thrust helps in short take off. This factors becomes less important in huge carriers like the carriers of US.
Levcon/ Canard are basically very similar to LERX on aircraft. Their purpose is to increase lift at AoA because the vortex help prevent flow separation.
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While both Rafale and F-18E/F have lift increasing device, one advantage that F-18 has is the wing sweep angle. The lesser the sweep angle, the more lift can be created at a given AoA. So F-18 can land at very slow speed. Of course, this also come with a cost, the high swept angle of Rafale make it more effecient at high speed (better acceleration and cruise speed)
 

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Levcon/ Canard are basically very similar to LERX on aircraft. Their purpose is to increase lift at AoA because the vortex help prevent flow separation.
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While both Rafale and F-18E/F have lift increasing device, one advantage that F-18 has is the wing sweep angle. The lesser the sweep angle, the more lift can be created at a given AoA. So F-18 can land at very slow speed. Of course, this also come with a cost, the high swept angle of Rafale make it more effecient at high speed (better acceleration and cruise speed)

Very nice. Cheers.
 

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What I had said was that F/A18 has more powerful engines then the Rafale. You said in your above post that Rafale's engines are more powerful, I later corrected you by showing you how the F-18's GE-414 engine is more powerful than the Rafale's M-88 engine.
Ofcourse GE414 is more powerful. Where did I say that Rafale engines are more powerful?
 

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Ofcourse GE414 is more powerful. Where did I say that Rafale engines are more powerful?
Rafale with more powerful engine is the best Choice for Indian navy. No F 18.
Here you claimed that the Rafale's engines are more powerful than the F-18's engines after which I corrected you.
 

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You are miss interpritng my post. I say Rafale with more powerful engine means upgraded M88 which france has planned.
Well I am talking about the current M-88 engine which generates both less dry thrust and afterburner thrust than the GE-414. I am not sure about an "upgraded" M-88. Will have to check on that.
 

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INDIAN NAVY EVALUATING TRIAL REPORT OF RAFALE, F-18 FOR USD 5 BILLION FIGHTER JET DEAL
New Delhi:
In the USD 5 billion tenders to buy 26 combat aircraft, the report of the extensive trials of the French Rafale and American F-18 planes is being evaluated by the Indian Navy headquarters.


The aircraft is planned to be acquired under a government-to-government deal by the Navy for operations from its latest aircraft carrier INS Vikrant commissioned recently by Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Kochi.

"The extensive trial was held by a naval team in Goa for both the fighter aircraft Rafale and F-18. The report is with the headquarters and is being eventuated for final shortlisting," l government sources told ANI.

The evaluation is to see whether the aircraft has met the technical specifications of the naval requirements or not, they said.

The American aircraft are built for carriers weighing around one lakh tonnes while the French Rafale is made for 60,000 tonne-size carriers.

The Navy has MiG-29Ks which operate from the INS Vikramaditya and also don't have a very strong serviceability record and their numbers are considered to be sufficient only for one carrier.

The trial report would determine the winner of the competition which was earlier planned for around 57 planes but now has been reduced to 26 only.

The last time these two planes took part in an Indian tender, the Rafale had emerged as a winner but that deal could not be completed due to technical issues.

However, based on the final selection of the previous deal, the government acquired 36 Rafales which played a big role during the deployment against china in eastern Ladakh and other areas.

The American side has been claiming that it has improved the performance and capabilities of the plane compared to the last competition saying that they have met all requirements of the Indian Navy.
 

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