Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Ya'll Nibbiars if IN want to have the submarine Surfac Combatant and the aircraft carriers here the way.

1. Continue the Kalevari Class Submarines with a longer variant for the VLS. Each will roughly cost 4,000 crores. 6 Submarine Total cost 24,000 Crores.

2. Construct another Vikrant Class IAC sister ship. Cost 20,000 crore.

3. Continue the Kamorta line along with the private shipyards with upgrades and VLS. 12 Corvettes each coating around 2,000 crores. Total cost 24,000 crores.

4. Continue the stretched ASW-SWC 8 corvettes each coating 700 crores. Total cost 5,600 crores.

5. Continue the Shaurya OPV with major upgrades and 24 VLS. each 12 OPV's costing 1,200 crores. Total Cost 14,400 crores.

6. Continue the Project 17 A class Frigate with a 17 B class programme. 12 frigates Each costing 4,000 crores. Total Cost 48,000 Crores.

7. Continue the Project 15 B with a Project 15 C programme. Total 6 Destroyers each costing 7,000 crores. Total Cost 42,000 Crores.

8. And make the MRSV into a 25,000 Tonnes Programme 4 Vessels with each costing 5,500 Crores.

And you can have all the wishlist in 2,00,000 crores. And that's also 61 vessels excluding the current under funding or Constructions.

See Ya'll Nibbiars everyone want bigger and better. But have to compromise in order to have all things.

And finally the IN will have 186 Combat Ships in services.

If IN wants total achievable of 200 ships then have to shell extra for additional 6 Corvettes which would have been filled by the Sanchi class and 8 other type of vessel.

The Kamorta class design seems quite flexible to me, it can be easily modified to a guided missile corvette by taking out the RBU-6000 launchers and replacing them with 8 VLS cells of Brahmos.
Alongwith 32 SRSAM VLS cells, it will be kind of a pocket destroyer.

 

[Haldilal]

The Kamorta class design seems quite flexible to me, it can be easily modified to a guided missile corvette by taking out the RBU-6000 launchers and replacing them with 8 VLS cells of Brahmos.
Alongwith 32 SRSAM VLS cells, it will be kind of a pocket destroyer.

Ya'll Nibbiars and its stealthy with some upgrades to the hull and Superstructure and VLS's it is a excellent ship. We need to be better adapt in order to increase the numbers. Should aim for 200 Combat ships and then 300 Combat ships with a balance of small, Medium and large ships. We could have a large fleet's.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Ya'll Nibbiars and its stealthy with some upgrades to the hull and Superstructure and VLS's it is a excellent ship. We need to be better adapt in order to increase the numbers. Should aim for 200 Combat ships and then 300 Combat ships with a balance of small, Medium and large ships. We could have a large fleet's.

GRSE offered the Kamorta class design for export to the Brazilian Navy corvette program.

 

[Akula]

Can't we build a LPD based on missile tracking ship design.

 

[Arihant Roy]

INS Khanderi leading the pack.

 

[WolfPack86]

Navy May Lease Military Platforms
The Indian Navy is looking to leasing certain military platforms under the newly minted policy allowing lease of military hardware.


The Vice-Chief of the Indian Navy, Vice Admiral G Ashok Kumar, while speaking at the symposium on “Leveraging leasing for force level maintenance & modernisation”, organised by the FICCI, said leasing could mitigate short-term capability gaps.

The Navy looks to lease operational support and auxiliary vessels and those could be mine-sweepers, utility helicopters and unmanned platforms (UAV).

Navy May Lease Military Platforms

The Indian Navy is looking to leasing certain military platforms under the newly minted policy allowing lease of military hardware. The Vice...

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[Arihant Roy]

The gorgeous sexy MiG-29K onboard INS Vikramaditya .

The MiG is quite a looker. No one can argue on the contrary .

The F/A-18 E/F can fly at ultra low speeds. Only the Rafale can beat it in this sector.

 

[ARVION MK 1A]

 

[Arihant Roy]

This is a great shot. Wallpaper material. USS Nimitz looms in the distance. Can't wait for INS Vikrant to take the place of Nimitz.

Russian jets and Russia heli on a Russian ship . An American ship in the background . So East is indeed meeting West in Malabar 2020 edition.

 

[ARVION MK 1A]

 

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[VelociRaptor]

 

[Suryavanshi]

I appreciate the fact that Navy appears to be the one most committed to indigenization. Buying local is always better than shopping foreign.
There's this idea being floated by Indians that dumping AC program and buying foren carriers is somehow better for us, maybe its true in the short run but not in the long run.
Making Weapons isn't just buying weapons for war it also supports indigenous economy and support thousands of jobs. When we buy foren maal outright all the money goes to foreign nation if their is no clause of offset. Steel sold is theirs, their employees get paid, tax collected by the government is further invested into their economy. All we get is the weapon of war everything else they get the leverage of it.
Trial and error creates a scientific temperament if the organization is operating in a responsible manner. that's why even if the Indian counterparts are sub standard still the Military should consider inducting give that their is scope for improvement.

Indigenous product keeps large chunk of money cycling inside the Countries border.

 

[Deadtrap]

 

[shade]

I appreciate the fact that Navy appears to be the one most committed to indigenization. Buying local is always better than shopping foreign.
There's this idea being floated by Indians that dumping AC program and buying foren carriers is somehow better for us, maybe its true in the short run but not in the long run.
Making Weapons isn't just buying weapons for war it also supports indigenous economy and support thousands of jobs. When we buy foren maal outright all the money goes to foreign nation if their is no clause of offset. Steel sold is theirs, their employees get paid, tax collected by the government is further invested into their economy. All we get is the weapon of war everything else they get the leverage of it.
Trial and error creates a scientific temperament if the organization is operating in a responsible manner. that's why even if the Indian counterparts are sub standard still the Military should consider inducting give that their is scope for improvement.

Indigenous product keeps large chunk of money cycling inside the Countries border.

I am more of the opinion of building more subs and more destroyers and frigates of the 'latest" classes that are being built today, since in another 10 years you will have PLAN taking over islands in the Andamans backed by a CSG and people will be KoI NaHi GhUsSa because no subs or weapon packed frigates and destroyers

 

[Killbot]

I am more of the opinion of building more subs and more destroyers and frigates of the 'latest" classes that are being built today, since in another 10 years you will have PLAN taking over islands in the Andamans backed by a CSG and people will be KoI NaHi GhUsSa because no subs or weapon packed frigates and destroyers

They need to go through the Malacca strait to get anywhere near the Andamans. Which means they'll need to deal with both IN and IAF. And we'll have enough frigates and destroyers to combat them even without IAF imo.
Edit: in 10 years.

 

[ARVION MK 1A]

The Tu 142 of Navy. Here's a close up of the massive contra propelling NK 12 engines. Also a bigass wingman on the right.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

They need to go through the Malacca strait to get anywhere near the Andamans. Which means they'll need to deal with both IN and IAF. And we'll have enough frigates and destroyers to combat them even without IAF imo.
Edit: in 10 years.

The current need is to build more destroyers and frigates of the existing classes probably with some minor upgrades so that we have a sizeable inventory.
The Navy should be building 6 more destroyers based on the Vizag class design before moving to higher displacement destroyers which are going to cost a bomb.
Similarly with frigates, it should be building 7 more Nilgiri class frigates under the Project 17B.
The Kamorta class design is quite flexible and with a few minor modifications a guided missile corvette design emerges, build 12 of these Kamorta design guided missile corvettes which will serve as pocket destroyers.
The Chinese are meanwhile building/have built some 70 odd Type 56 corvette, 34 Type 52D destroyer, 30 Type 54A frigate.

 

[Knowitall]

This is the new frigate japan has launched.

They plan to build 22 of these. What's even more surprising is the pace of construction since steel cutting had started only last year.

Indian navy also needs to learn and place bulk order of a refined and modern design while increasing the pace of construction.

Bulk concentration will also lower the costs.

 

[ezsasa]

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This is the new frigate japan has launched.

They plan to build 22 of these. What's even more surprising is the pace of construction since steel cutting had started only last year.

Indian navy also needs to learn and place bulk order of a refined and modern design while increasing the piace of construction.

Bulk concentration will also lower the costs.

what are the specs and armaments?