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The Indian Naval Air Arm is the aviation branch and a fighting arm of the Indian Navy which is tasked to provide an aircraft carrier based strike capability, fleet air defence, maritime reconnaissance, and anti-submarine warfare. The Flag Officer Naval Aviation appears to direct the field operations of the air arm.
 

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The Indian Naval Air Arm is the aviation branch and a fighting arm of the Indian Navy which is tasked to provide an aircraft carrier based strike capability, fleet air defence, maritime reconnaissance, and anti-submarine warfare. The Flag Officer Naval Aviation appears to direct the field operations of the air arm.







 

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Current strength of Indian Naval Air Arm:

1. Mikoyan MiG-29K = 41
2. Boeing P-8 Poseidon = 12
3. Ilyushin Il-38 = 04
4. Dornier Do 228 = 38
5. Kamov Ka-31 = 14
6. Kamov Ka-27 = 14
7. Westland Sea King Mk.42B = 17
8. Sikorsky Sea King Mk.42C = 06
9. Sikorsky UH-3 Sea King = 06
10. HAL Dhruv = 14/24
11. HAL Chetak = 30
12. MH-60R Romeo = 2/24
13. Hawk Mk. 132 = 17
14. Virus SW 80 = 12
 

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Current strength of Indian Naval Air Arm:

1. Mikoyan MiG-29K = 41
2. Boeing P-8 Poseidon = 12
3. Ilyushin Il-38 = 04
4. Dornier Do 228 = 38
5. Kamov Ka-31 = 14
6. Kamov Ka-27 = 14
7. Westland Sea King Mk.42B = 17
8. Sikorsky Sea King Mk.42C = 06
9. Sikorsky UH-3 Sea King = 06
10. HAL Dhruv = 14/24
11. HAL Chetak = 30
12. MH-60R Romeo = 2/24
13. Hawk Mk. 132 = 17
14. Virus SW 80 = 12
Will Mig 29K replacements be ordered for the ones that have crashed?
 

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We need helicopters in 200+ numbers to reach our goal of 500 aircrafts.
24 MH-60R are incoming
111 Naval Utility helicopters ( There was a news about IN going towards 60 ALH Mk-3R)
123 Naval Multi-role helicopters (Not sure if numbers will change as we acquired the MH-60R. DBNMRH will fulfill this role in future.)
 

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IN was. But balked at the price
Yes, its normal, just interest, not a major requirement. But its a requirement of UPA gov to buy & necessity of Japan to sale, IN show interest due to this - if gov buys IN find a way to use it.UPA used to buy weapons to improving relations with other countries. At the end, deal not happen due to price. Japan also offered ssk, mpa.
IN shown interest in Japanese shin mirya amphibious aircraft due to UPA gov foreign policies & when there is only little money left, Def. Min asked to give importance to requirements, and shin mirya totally out from picture. I think, its the major reason why Russia not marketing their amphibious aircraft.
 

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HAH! we arent ordering MiG29 frames or additional Sukhois despite those being low hanging fruits - so, no
Sir can you please clarify if the 40 Mig-29 are exclusively for INS Vikrant alone or shared between INS Vikrant and Vikramaditya ?
 

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Govt approves acquisition of Russian Kamov-31 choppers

New Delhi, Aug 6 (PTI) In a bid to strengthen the Navy's capabilities to detect airborne and surface-based maritime threats, Government has approved the acquisition of five Russian Kamov-31 early warning choppers.

Defence Ministry officials said the Cabinet Committee of Security (CCS) at a meeting on Tuesday gave its approval for procuring these choppers, which can track 30-40 targets on ground and air simultaneously with its airborne electronic warfare radar, mounted on the underbelly of the chopper.

The deal for the five choppers between India and Russia is expected to be signed in the next couple of months, they said.

Navy already has a fleet of nine Ka-31 helicopters, which are deployed on India's only aircraft carrier INS Virat and the Talwar Class Guided Missile frigates of the Navy. They are also operated from Navy's shore based air stations.

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If some of them to be used from shore based than why not buy more capable E 2 Hawkeyes will be more beneficial for IN
 

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India already in final stages to procure E 2 D Hawkeyes from USA in 4 to 6 numbers but they will be used from land and will be refueled with IAF tankers if needed to extend their range but I see if indian navy bought them definitely indian navy will get us C 295 Airbus aircraft which will be manufactured in indian Gujrat may be converted to tactical tanker for indian navy to refuel E 2D MH 60 and Poseidon aircrafts to extend their ranges
 

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India already in final stages to procure E 2 D Hawkeyes from USA in 4 to 6 numbers but they will be used from land and will be refueled with IAF tankers if needed to extend their range but I see if indian navy bought them definitely indian navy will get us C 295 Airbus aircraft which will be manufactured in indian Gujrat may be converted to tactical tanker for indian navy to refuel E 2D MH 60 and Poseidon aircrafts to extend their ranges
huh?? Where do you get your source of info to make such sweeping generalizations?
 

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Has the navy ever shown interest in LCH, to provide fire support to landed troops? Similar to Marine Supercobra helicopters.
 

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France’s Rafale jets are frontrunner in race for Indian Navy contract
New Delhi: French aircraft manufacturer Dassault Aviation’s Rafale-M has emerged as the frontrunner to bag a mega contract from the Indian Navy for 27 fighters, ThePrint has learnt, leaving behind US firm Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet.

Sources in the defence and security establishment said the Navy has submitted a detailed report to the defence ministry on performance of the Super Hornets and Rafale-M, which is the marine version of the fighter aircraft already in use with the Indian Air Force, during two sets of demonstration.

American firm Boeing and French manufacturer Dassault Aviation carried out operational demonstrations of the Super Hornets and Rafale-M respectively, showcasing ski-jumps — a crucial take-off capability — from the shore-based test facility at INS Hansa in Goa, to demonstrate their ability to operate from Indian aircraft carriers.

Refusing to get into details, sources said the report from the naval headquarters to the defence ministry mentions the “positives” only, and that Rafale-M met all criteria.

The report to the defence ministry has been sent after a detailed analysis by the naval headquarters on the performance by both aircraft. Those undertaking the tests had prepared a ‘trial report’ that was sent to the naval headquarters for detailed analysis on performance and shortlisting of aircraft.

Asked whether the lift size of India’s indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant would be an issue, sources said both aircraft had to be brought up and down at a certain angle. While the wings of Super Hornets fold — unlike the Rafale — these still had to be brought up and down at a certain angle. Both aircraft also have a separate process in which the wings fold.

The design and space of the lift size has been a problem because it is understood to have been made taking the MiG 29K and the naval version of the Tejas aircraft into consideration.

The Navy currently operates the Russian MiG 29K aircraft from INS Vikramaditya. But with the commissioning of INS Vikrant, the force has been seeking more fighter jets.

The new contract is meant to be an interim arrangement because the Navy is betting on its indigenous fighter. Navy Chief Admiral Hari Kumar had Saturday said the future of Indian naval aviation was the indigenous Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF), whose prototype is expected by 2026-27 and production to start somewhere around 2032.

He also said that the existing naval fighter, MiG 29K, were in limited numbers and Russian spare supplies were “also not very forthcoming”.

Fighters for IAF
Sources said the ball now was in the court of the defence ministry that will decide on the next course of action. They added that the contract is likely to be a government-to-government deal just like the earlier order for IAF’s Rafale jets.

It is learnt that the French have offered to transfer some aircraft from its own naval fleet to ensure that the Indian Navy can operate them faster. However, all fighters are likely to be bought off-the-shelf.

Sources explained that the forward movement by the Indian Navy would mean that the proposal for more Rafale jets for the IAF is also likely to gather speed. This is because it would make for a more prudent financial decision to have more numbers of aircraft, thereby bringing down on costs.

As reported by ThePrint earlier, the government is thinking of splitting the mega deal for 114 Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) for IAF. Instead of acquiring 114 fighters in one go, as was planned earlier, the government is looking at going in for an initial order of 54 aircraft for the IAF.

This would entail 18 aircraft being bought off-the-shelf from the foreign Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) and 36 built in India through a joint venture under Make In India.

This would be an order that will be placed with the foreign OEM directly. A follow-on order will be placed to the joint venture and this deal would be in Indian currency.
 

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France’s Rafale jets are frontrunner in race for Indian Navy contract
New Delhi: French aircraft manufacturer Dassault Aviation’s Rafale-M has emerged as the frontrunner to bag a mega contract from the Indian Navy for 27 fighters, ThePrint has learnt, leaving behind US firm Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornet.

Sources in the defence and security establishment said the Navy has submitted a detailed report to the defence ministry on performance of the Super Hornets and Rafale-M, which is the marine version of the fighter aircraft already in use with the Indian Air Force, during two sets of demonstration.

American firm Boeing and French manufacturer Dassault Aviation carried out operational demonstrations of the Super Hornets and Rafale-M respectively, showcasing ski-jumps — a crucial take-off capability — from the shore-based test facility at INS Hansa in Goa, to demonstrate their ability to operate from Indian aircraft carriers.

Refusing to get into details, sources said the report from the naval headquarters to the defence ministry mentions the “positives” only, and that Rafale-M met all criteria.

The report to the defence ministry has been sent after a detailed analysis by the naval headquarters on the performance by both aircraft. Those undertaking the tests had prepared a ‘trial report’ that was sent to the naval headquarters for detailed analysis on performance and shortlisting of aircraft.

Asked whether the lift size of India’s indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant would be an issue, sources said both aircraft had to be brought up and down at a certain angle. While the wings of Super Hornets fold — unlike the Rafale — these still had to be brought up and down at a certain angle. Both aircraft also have a separate process in which the wings fold.

The design and space of the lift size has been a problem because it is understood to have been made taking the MiG 29K and the naval version of the Tejas aircraft into consideration.

The Navy currently operates the Russian MiG 29K aircraft from INS Vikramaditya. But with the commissioning of INS Vikrant, the force has been seeking more fighter jets.

The new contract is meant to be an interim arrangement because the Navy is betting on its indigenous fighter. Navy Chief Admiral Hari Kumar had Saturday said the future of Indian naval aviation was the indigenous Twin Engine Deck Based Fighter (TEDBF), whose prototype is expected by 2026-27 and production to start somewhere around 2032.

He also said that the existing naval fighter, MiG 29K, were in limited numbers and Russian spare supplies were “also not very forthcoming”.

Fighters for IAF
Sources said the ball now was in the court of the defence ministry that will decide on the next course of action. They added that the contract is likely to be a government-to-government deal just like the earlier order for IAF’s Rafale jets.

It is learnt that the French have offered to transfer some aircraft from its own naval fleet to ensure that the Indian Navy can operate them faster. However, all fighters are likely to be bought off-the-shelf.

Sources explained that the forward movement by the Indian Navy would mean that the proposal for more Rafale jets for the IAF is also likely to gather speed. This is because it would make for a more prudent financial decision to have more numbers of aircraft, thereby bringing down on costs.

As reported by ThePrint earlier, the government is thinking of splitting the mega deal for 114 Multi-Role Fighter Aircraft (MRFA) for IAF. Instead of acquiring 114 fighters in one go, as was planned earlier, the government is looking at going in for an initial order of 54 aircraft for the IAF.

This would entail 18 aircraft being bought off-the-shelf from the foreign Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) and 36 built in India through a joint venture under Make In India.

This would be an order that will be placed with the foreign OEM directly. A follow-on order will be placed to the joint venture and this deal would be in Indian currency.
Are they going for the JV meme here too?? They will end up buying 18 aircraft OTS and that will be it.
 

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Has the navy ever shown interest in LCH, to provide fire support to landed troops? Similar to Marine Supercobra helicopters.
No. Question- Why ? From where ?
Hint- HAL still working on foldable wings, means first LUH, then ALH and then LPD, after that IN may consider...
Supercobra helio - USN/USMC having more than 15 LHD/LPD for ah1 & IN none.
 

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