Indian Naval Aviation

[HMS Astute]

I wonder why the US does not make advanced maritime patrol aircraft with long range like other countries do. Perhaps, it must have something to do with other defensive capabilities they have. Like i said before, even the UK made Nimrod is much superior in almost every aspect. Tu-142 is indeed a badass plane which will do a better job (compared to P8) for a massive country like India.

 

[bhramos]

I wonder why the US does not make advanced maritime patrol aircraft with long range like other countries do. Perhaps, it must have something to do with other defensive capabilities they have. Like i said before, even the UK made Nimrod is much superior in almost every aspect. Tu-142 is indeed a badass plane which will do a better job (compared to P8) for a massive country like India.

yeah Tu-142ME can cover whole Indian Ocean region in one mission with out refueling... P-8I will replace Il-38 May.. aircraft

 

[Dhairya Yadav]

Indian navy took delivery of another Tu-142ME antisubmarine aircraft

https://engineeringrussia.wordpress.com/category/aircraft/

What does that "ARK" stand for?

 

[bhramos]

What does that "ARK" stand for?

it stands for its base name, Arakonam..

 

[SilentKiller]

guys am not sure if am right, but i guess range for Tu-142 is 6500km and not 12500Km.
and 2200 Km range is too quite good enough that too with anti submarine load i.e heavy torpedoes...
2200 KM means over 4 hrs of flight time which is quite good and when u have numbers too its even better. not sure if they have disclosed its ferry range, i guess it will be better
If information is correct, indian navy might go for 20-24 P-8 total.
Yes they are inferior in range to Tu-142, but they have better equipment. Moreover Tu-142 is not going out of service just now neither is Il-38SD.
Tu-142 will remain for next 15-20 years but Il-38 might retire in next 5-7 years if deal for smaller Maritime Aircraft, final count might be 20-24 P-8's along with integrated UAV's (indian navy is interested in this concept) and another (i believe we must go for C 295W)
C 295W if selected can be used for both smaller Maritime role and same can be use to replace 56 Avro HS 748 transporters. this way say navy might need 10-20 or even 40 of them and 56 for airforce.
so indian industry will benefit as they will be made in india and both navy and airforce will be using them so a cheaper and good option.

please suggest otherwise.

 

[archie]

Y not just invest in a SOSUS type of network and track most subs??? is that not more cheaper and efficent on a longer run??

 

[Bheeshma]

Wiki:
Tupolev Tu-142 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Combat radius is 6500 km.

 

[Punya Pratap]

Guys just a thought... your opinion is welcome!!

I was just wondering when the IAF & IN pilots will go for joint exercises between each other?? I understand IAF gets a lot of exposure from the foreign Air force exercises like Red Flag & Cope but IN fighter pilots dont and they would benefit immensely by flying with/against mock battle scenario's with IAF's finest!!

I know IN pilots are trained partly by IAF but since they have started training on their own Hawk's I think the connect should be there between the two forces pilots. Firstly coz they will have to co-ordinate in future battle scenario's and secondly coz exchange of fighting doctrines is always a good thing especially since IN does nt have a TACDE of its own. Third reason is IAF & IN will share common platforms like Mig 29's and LCA's so makes sense!

No matter what fighters the IAC's or Vikramaditya carries but the IN pilots need to excel and interactions and air exercises with IAF should be encouraged and made a norm every year!!

 

[SilentKiller]

Yes, they should..
but right now airforce, army and navy have some fear that other is eating up its role etc. which is irrelevant.
Earlier airforce had reservations with indian navy acquiring modern jets like mig 29K, they had fear that govt might reduce su-30 numbers.

Govt needs to force cooperation, one can be joint bases or commands such as in Andaman we have.
even both IAF and IN can share supply line w.r.t to mig-29 as both IN and IAF upgraded migs share a lot of common things now.
IAF must be stripped of major infantry support roles like attack helicopters, light transport helicopters and concentrate on other roles.

please suggest otherwise?

1 query: in IAF do we have a sort of top gun specific schools?
or IAF pilots get those skills by learning from seniors etc, have never heard a sort of Red vs Blue war games in IAF.

 

[Punya Pratap]

Yes, they should..
but right now airforce, army and navy have some fear that other is eating up its role etc. which is irrelevant.
Earlier airforce had reservations with indian navy acquiring modern jets like mig 29K, they had fear that govt might reduce su-30 numbers.

Govt needs to force cooperation, one can be joint bases or commands such as in Andaman we have.
even both IAF and IN can share supply line w.r.t to mig-29 as both IN and IAF upgraded migs share a lot of common things now.
IAF must be stripped of major infantry support roles like attack helicopters, light transport helicopters and concentrate on other roles.

please suggest otherwise?

1 query: in IAF do we have a sort of top gun specific schools?
or IAF pilots get those skills by learning from seniors etc, have never heard a sort of Red vs Blue war games in IAF.

We do have something like that and it's called TACDE...Google it up and you will find something very interesting. They are our version of Top Gun responsible not only for producing Ace pilots but also formulation of tactics/strategies for each aircraft.... be it Helos or Jets!

 

[Punya Pratap]

We do have something like that and it's called TACDE...Google it up and you will find something very interesting. They are our version of Top Gun responsible not only for producing Ace pilots but also formulation of tactics/strategies for each aircraft.... be it Helos or Jets!

For further information on TACDE please go through the below mentioned link :

T.A.C.D.E, Indian Airforce

 

[Kunal Biswas]

There are IAF and IN interaction besides excerise, Air-refueling is done by IAF for IN as well as Mixed formation of MKI / Jaguare along with Harriers ..

I am sure its now days with MIG-29K .

 

[Punya Pratap]

There are IAF and IN interaction besides excerise, Air-refueling is done by IAF for IN as well as Mixed formation of MKI / Jaguare along with Harriers ..

I am sure its now days with MIG-29K .

Thanks Kunal.... have you any information whether IN pilots also go through TACDE?? I have nt heard of TACDE carrying specialization for Mig 29s K/Kubs/UPG or maybe I dont know !!

 

[cobra commando]

TCAS cleared for Indian Navy special aircraft

Tu-142M

Dornier Do-228

August 30, 2014: The government has cleared the purchase and integration of Traffic Collision Avoidance Systems (TCAS) on the Indian Navy's Tu-142, Dornier Do-228 and Il-38SD aircraft fleets, in a crucial move to shore up flight safety during extended operations at sea. The navy has for years felt the need to give its reconnaissance fleet airborne collision avoidance systems. The recent deployment of P-8I aircraft in the hunt for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 underscored the need for TCAS on all aircraft. The navy's Tu-142s, also based at INS Rajali in Arakkonam, Tamil Nadu, had also been on standby for the search operation but were not used since they would have been deployed in airspace that was thick with other aircraft and helicopters. The navy's worst ever disaster before the INS Sindhurakshak tragedy last year, was the mid-air collision of two Il-38s in Goa during jubilee celebrations of the navy's air arm. The effort to arm these aircraft (new ones were procured subsequently) with TCAS and other safety systems has been on since then.
TCAS cleared for Indian Navy special aircraft - SP�s Exculsive

 

[cobra commando]

Ageing Indian Navy Chetak helicopter makes hard landing near Mumbai, 4 crew receive minor injuries | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

 

[Lions Of Punjab]

Tejas naval prototype to undergo flight test this month - The Hindu

Tejas naval prototype to undergo flight test this month

The second naval prototype of Tejas, the indigenously developed light combat aircraft, will undergo flight test in Goa by September-end, P.S. Subramanyam, Project Director (Combat Aircraft), Aeronautical Development Agency, has said.

Mr. Subramanyam, who was here to attend an Engineers' Day function, told The Hindu that the prototype would demonstrate take-off and landing at a shore-based test facility which simulated an aircraft carrier. With that, India would become the third country to demonstrate this facility. He said the Indian Air Force version of Tejas was expected to get final operational clearance by March 2015.

 

[Ajeesh Kumar S]

what is the payload seen in the dornier wings? in inner paylon..?never seen before in dornier.Under belly their is search radar radome. but the picture show two special payload onborad the aircraft wing other than underbelly naval radar..?

 

[Zebra]

what is the payload seen in the dornier wings? in inner paylon..?never seen before in dornier.Under belly their is search radar radome. but the picture show two special payload onborad the aircraft wing other than underbelly naval radar..?

It could be gun or pollution control pod.

 

[cobra commando]

Thum! Kaun Aata Hai?: Naval Utility Helicopter (NUH) Procurement Moved UnderBuy and Make (Indian) Category

 

[cobra commando]

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