Indian Laser and Directed Energy Weapon (DEW) Thread

[Chinmoy]

then whats KALI
any research purpose thing?????

Kali is basically a test bed for testing satellites. Its a particle accelerator unlike a LASER or MASER. A particle accelerator is used to test the effect of gamma rays or UV on satellite bodies in deep space. Although it could be used as an weapon, but its effect would be minimum as a DEW.
Even if you take into consideration the tech of LASER or MASER, those too are impractical as hand held weapon system. Why? Because LASER/ MASER does need huge electrical power and they are more suitable as ship mounted system or fixed land based system. Even the simple LASER designator does make use of huge electrical current compared to their output.
Hand held or vehicle mounted LASER weapons are more practical as non lethal weapon system. As far as MASER is considered, these could be more lethal as an antimaterial or antipersonal weapon system. But again, these have to be ship or land based rather then hand held.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

then whats KALI
any research purpose thing?????

Yes, a mere test platform.
We have "Dazzler" and "Aditya" as laser weapons.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Hand held laser weapons are in the realms of science fiction at present where we are concerned. It will take a couple decades to operationalize them. The static DEW, KALI that we are developing requires massive amount of energy and it's huge and cumbersome to transport.

So, we still have a pretty long way to go till we develop small compact and mobile Laser weapon systems along the LoC!

Kali 5000 has now become Kali 50000 and it was tested in himalaya with a very very horrible effect as per one article. Description of kali's test itself is very scary.

 

[Chinmoy]

Kali 5000 has now become Kali 50000 and it was tested in himalaya with a very very horrible effect as per one article. Description of kali's test itself is very scary.

Don't believe in such sort of articles. KALI in itself is not a weapon. You need humongous power source to feed system like KALI and that article which you are talking about is just a mental masturbation of random fanboy. For its power you need a power station of its own.

Right now it is mainly used for experimental purpose and to test the reliability of to be launched satellite system.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Don't believe in such sort of articles. KALI in itself is not a weapon. You need humongous power source to feed system like KALI and that article which you are talking about is just a mental masturbation of random fanboy. For its power you need a power station of its own.

Right now it is mainly used for experimental purpose and to test the reliability of to be launched satellite system.

It is not a weapon but a weapon potential was realized later. You have to charge the system for some time and it will discharge in nano second releasing all energy in nano second time. It will take some time to charge but we do not know the current status. if we have made it to work it in a manner in which we may charge it in short time then it is possible.

 

[Chinmoy]

It is not a weapon but a weapon potential was realized later. You have to charge the system for some time and it will discharge in nano second releasing all energy in nano second time. It will take some time to charge but we do not know the current status. if we have made it to work it in a manner in which we may charge it in short time then it is possible.

Do you realize what short of capacitor would have to be used for that? Even now KALI 5000 does make use of Water Capacitor. Moreover KALI 10000 trips the scale at 25 tons. I could only imagine how much KALI 50000 would weight. Its not a airborne weapon for sure with that much weight. Its more fit as ship based weapon system only if capacitor size and capacity were brought under control.

 

[republic_roi97]

NEW DELHI: The government today refused to share information with the Parliament about KALI 5000 project citing it to be a matter of national security.

Now read this:-

"The desired information is sensitive in nature and its disclosure is not in the interest of national security," Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar said in a written reply to Lok Sabha.

I always used to think of it as a rumor or a HOAX. But this particular statement by DM makes me wonder otherwise. If it as a weapon really exist, then it is probably the best kept secret in Indian history.

 

[republic_roi97]

BTW, its source is:-
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ng-national-security/articleshow/50234073.cms

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Kali 5000 has now become Kali 50000 and it was tested in himalaya with a very very horrible effect as per one article. Description of kali's test itself is very scary.

Seems that too much kids have got blogs. That's why you get such articles. KALI is neither a weapon nor it was ever planned to be a weapon.

It is not a weapon but a weapon potential was realized later.

No need, we have other projects underway.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

BTW, its source is:-
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ng-national-security/articleshow/50234073.cms

I meant by usual weapon usual weapon for usual warfare. It could be used to intercept satellites though.

 

[republic_roi97]

Now read this:-

I always used to think of it as a rumor or a HOAX. But this particular statement by DM makes me wonder otherwise. If it as a weapon really exist, then it is probably the best kept secret in Indian history.

^^^^^^^^^:biggrin2::biggrin2:..................

Seems that too much kids have got blogs. That's why you get such articles. KALI is neither a weapon nor it was ever planned to be a weapon.

No need, we have other projects underway.

 

[Chinmoy]

Now read this:-

I always used to think of it as a rumor or a HOAX. But this particular statement by DM makes me wonder otherwise. If it as a weapon really exist, then it is probably the best kept secret in Indian history.

The tits and bits of any nuclear reactor is also not to be shared in any public domain. Do you think each and every Nuclear reactor is a nuclear weapon?(Unless you are not a paki :biggrin2

Even the details of RIKEN Cyclotron too is not out there in public along with the Large Hadron Collider of CERN. Are all of these weapons?

 

[republic_roi97]

I meant by usual weapon usual weapon for usual warfare. It could be used to intercept satellites though.

And I fully agree bro..................................

 

[republic_roi97]

The tits and bits of any nuclear reactor is also not to be shared in any public domain. Do you think each and every Nuclear reactor is a nuclear weapon?(Unless you are not a paki :biggrin2

Even the details of RIKEN Cyclotron too is not out there in public along with the Large Hadron Collider of CERN. Are all of these weapons?

No I never said that, I said that "I always thought precisely the opposite" while this bit by DM makes me wonder otherwise.:biggrin2:
You need to read this article, the statement was made in regards to the "KALI as a weapons system"
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ng-national-security/articleshow/50234073.cms

The question asked was whether there is any proposal to induct KALI 5000 in the armed forces.

According to publicly available information, KALI (Kilo Ampere Linear Injector) is a linear electron accelerator being developed in India, by Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO) and Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC).

It is designed to work in such a way that if a missile is launched in India's direction, it will quickly emit powerful pulses of Relativistic Elect ..

 

[Chinmoy]

No I never said that, I said that "I always thought precisely the opposite" while this bit by DM makes me wonder otherwise.:biggrin2:
You need to read this article, the statement was made in regards to the "KALI as a weapons system"
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ng-national-security/articleshow/50234073.cms

If someone would ask DM about whether there is any proposal to induct Agni 6 or any other weapon system in Armed force, then he would give you a straight forward answer of 'YES' or 'NO'. But if someone would ask him whether X-Ray would be inducted into Armed Force, then obviously he would have to say 'NO' and have to give reason for the same. Now do you want DM to give reason as to what KALI is being used as of now?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

@LETHALFORCE Something you may be interested.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Centre for High Energy Systems and Sciences (CHESS), Hyderabad, has developed and successfully tested a single-board High Speed Tracker Module (HSTM) incorporating field-programmable gate array (FPGA) and digital signal processor (DSP). The system acquires images from a high frame rate camera (>1000 fps), pixel size 512 x512, using CAMLINK interface, computes the centroid of the distant target and tracks the target, and controls a two-axis Fast Steering Mirror (closed loop bandwidth ~400 Hz) for precisely maintaining the laser beam spot onto the target centroid during the period of illumination. Single frame latency and Jitter correction of 95 per cent, 90 per cent and 80 per cent has been achieved for 10 Hz, 20 Hz and 30 Hz jitter frequencies and ± 0.3 µrad jitter amplitude, respectively under lab simulation conditions. The system would provide improved compensation of atmospheric effects on laser beam propagation in comparison to the commercial NI-based system being used presently.

http://www.drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/newsletter/2017/Annual_2016.pdf
@Chinmoy @ezsasa @tejas warrior

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Center For High Energy Systems And Sciences (CHESS) Develops High-Speed Tracker Module For Directed Energy Laser System

Center for High Energy Systems and Sciences (CHESS), Hyderabad, has developed and successfully tested a single-board High SpeeHigh-SpeedModule (HSTM) incorporating field-programmable gate array (FPGA) and digital signal processor (DSP).

The system acquires images from a high frame rate camera (>1000 fps), pixel size 512 x512, using CAMLINK interface, computes the centroid of the distant target and tracks the target, and controls a two-axis Fast Steering Mirror (closed loop bandwidth ~400 Hz) for precisely maintaining the laser beam spot onto the target centroid during the period of illumination. Single frame latency and Jitter correction of 95 per cent, 90 per cent and 80 per cent has been achieved for 10 Hz, 20 Hz and 30 Hz jitter frequencies and ± 0.3 µrad jitter amplitude, respectively under lab simulation conditions.

The system would provide improved compensation of atmospheric effects on laser beam propagation in comparison to the commercial NI-based system being used presently.

DRDO e-Mag
@safriz may be interested.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

TYPES of INDIAN LASER WEAPONS , DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS

 

[roma]

@HariPrasad-1 Anyway, if you want something against terrorists,
DRDO's Active Denial System(ADS)

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A stormtrooper in front of a to-scale 'Star Wars' TIE fighter. DRDO is working on S

wouldntit be lovely if some of these defensive weapons as depicted above could be modified to be less potent , to be used to defend our security people from the stone pelting bums in the far north of the nation ?

would be nice to know if drdo could take up that possibility


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