Indian Human Spaceflight Program (HSP)

[Vamsi]

@Indx TechStyle @Swesh 1st unmanned mission Gaganyaan G1 is now planned for Mid-2024 launch, so manned will be in 2026

‘J&K to be paradise of peace & prosperity soon’: Dr Jitendra Singh

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What is the status of the Gaganyaan project?
It is almost ready. The Gaganyaan mission will be a major milestone in India’s space mission in 2024. The unmanned Gaganyaan project is set for a mid-2024 launch. Science in India has turned yesterday’s fairy tales into today’s reality.

 

[Vamsi]

@Indx TechStyle @Swesh 1st unmanned mission Gaganyaan G1 is now planned for Mid-2024 launch, so manned will be in 2026

‘J&K to be paradise of peace & prosperity soon’: Dr Jitendra Singh

More than three years after the Centre read down the provisions of Article 370 giving special status to Jammu and Kashmir, the only real challenge for the gover

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earlier there were rumors that there will be 3 unmanned flights before the manned one, if those rumors are true ,then manned mission will only be possible in 2027 at the earliest

 

[Swesh]

earlier there were rumors that there will be 3 unmanned flights before the manned one, if those rumors are true ,then manned mission will only be possible in 2027 at the earliest

I told people many times here that project hsf here suffers from lack of resources and fund but people don't believe me i guess

 

[Vamsi]

I told people many times here that project hsf here suffers from lack of resources and fund but people don't believe me i guess

Nah, these kinds of delays are common in human spaceflight, the main reasons for delays in Gaganyaan is the development of Environmental Control & Life Support System, earlier they thought to use Russian system, but whatever the reason is, they resorted to Indigenous option, hence the delays...

FYI Chinese approved Shenzhou project in 1992, but the first flight Shenzhou-1 happened only in 1999, 7 years after the approval & manned flight Shenzhou-5 happened in 2003, 11 years after approval, if G1 happens in Mid-2024, & if H1 happens in 2027, then it is pretty quick I would say

 

[TopWatcher]

Better focus on CY3 and aditya

 

[Indx TechStyle]

@Indx TechStyle @Swesh 1st unmanned mission Gaganyaan G1 is now planned for Mid-2024 launch, so manned will be in 2026

‘J&K to be paradise of peace & prosperity soon’: Dr Jitendra Singh

More than three years after the Centre read down the provisions of Article 370 giving special status to Jammu and Kashmir, the only real challenge for the gover

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So they likely have scheduled GSAT-20 launch after Chandrayan-3.

I told people many times here that project hsf here suffers from lack of resources and fund but people don't believe me i guess

It rather suffers lack of experience. It is obvious that ISRO is cautious and anxious about sending a man in orbit.

Better focus on CY3 and aditya

Both are scheduled in 2023 and have specified launchers.

 

[mokoman]

Nah, these kinds of delays are common in human spaceflight, the main reasons for delays in Gaganyaan is the development of Environmental Control & Life Support System, earlier they thought to use Russian system, but whatever the reason is, they resorted to Indigenous option, hence the delays...

FYI Chinese approved Shenzhou project in 1992, but the first flight Shenzhou-1 happened only in 1999, 7 years after the approval & manned flight Shenzhou-5 happened in 2003, 11 years after approval, if G1 happens in Mid-2024, & if H1 happens in 2027, then it is pretty quick I would say

honestly it will be impressive if we do manned flight with no outside help in 3 or even 5 years. i think it will get pushed back more .

according to web chinese-shenzhou is a larger better version of the russian soyuz wihch the russians perfected over decades + they probably got Russian help . 3 module vs 2 of gaganyaan. 1 extra orbit module on top that keeps orbiting after crew leaves.

sucks that there is little Russia - India cooperation in space . jointly building space craft and station would have been great.

 

[Vamsi]

So they likely have scheduled GSAT-20 launch after Chandrayan-3.

There is ambiguity regarding GSAT-20, there is no clarity whether it is I-3K sat or I-6K sat, if it is I-6K sat,then it should be launched onboard LVM3-SC, if not Ariane-5

 

[Swesh]

Our track record with Russian tech after 2000s is not good in term of space isro is vulnerable to espionage and subotage so Russian projects can easily be sabotaged by West

 

[Vamsi]

honestly it will be impressive if we do manned flight with no outside help in 3 or even 5 years. i think it will get pushed back more .

I'm confident that it will happen before 2028

according to web chinese-shenzhou is a larger better version of the russian soyuz wihch the russians perfected over decades + they probably got Russian help . 3 module vs 2 of gaganyaan. 1 extra orbit module on top that keeps orbiting after crew leaves.

sucks that there is little Russia - India cooperation in space . jointly building space craft and station would have been great.

Soyuz & Shenzhou uses the 3rd module because, the habitable volume in their crew module is very less, but for our Gaganyaan's crew module, habitable volume is very high, hence no need for 3rd module....even Chinese next gen spacecraft doesn't have 3rd module

 

[Indx TechStyle]

honestly it will be impressive if we do manned flight with no outside help in 3 or even 5 years. i think it will get pushed back more .

according to web chinese-shenzhou is a larger better version of the russian soyuz wihch the russians perfected over decades + they probably got Russian help . 3 module vs 2 of gaganyaan. 1 extra orbit module on top that keeps orbiting after crew leaves.

sucks that there is little Russia - India cooperation in space . jointly building space craft and station would have been great.

I'm confident that it will happen before 2028


Soyuz & Shenzhou uses the 3rd module because, the habitable volume in their crew module is very less, but for our Gaganyaan's crew module, habitable volume is very high, hence no need for 3rd module....even Chinese next gen spacecraft doesn't have 3rd module

Even our Gaganyaan is a derivative of Soyuz.

 

[Vamsi]

Even our Gaganyaan is a derivative of Soyuz.

No, it's not , Gaganyaan is fully our design, Gaganyaan is the only manned spacecraft in the world with Hexagonal service Module....as far as crew module is concerned, almost every crew module is similar in shape.

Earlier ISRO planned to use Russian ECLSS, now developing indigenous one

Even the interiors of Gaganyaan are completely different than that of Soyuz

Now, try to compare with this analogy, Just because AMCA & J-31 looks similar, that doesn't mean AMCA is copy of J-31, similarly u cannot call Gaganyaan as derivative of Soyuz, no where Gaganyaan looks similar to Soyuz

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

There is ambiguity regarding GSAT-20, there is no clarity whether it is I-3K sat or I-6K sat, if it is I-6K sat,then it should be launched onboard LVM3-SC, if not Ariane-5

Once ISRO was compromised by the CIA by bribing the IB to act against Nambiar, Russians stopped sharing technology. The Antrix debacle was another reason. But it was mainly the Nambiar and other scientists being targeted by western intelligence agencies that caused Russians to stop.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Once ISRO was compromised by the CIA by bribing the IB to act against Nambiar, Russians stopped sharing technology. The Antrix debacle was another reason. But it was mainly the Nambiar and other scientists being targeted by western intelligence agencies that caused Russians to stop.

Nevertheless, Russian tech (KVD-1) hasn't been proved very good for India.

 

[Akula]

honestly it will be impressive if we do manned flight with no outside help in 3 or even 5 years. i think it will get pushed back more .

according to web chinese-shenzhou is a larger better version of the russian soyuz wihch the russians perfected over decades + they probably got Russian help . 3 module vs 2 of gaganyaan. 1 extra orbit module on top that keeps orbiting after crew leaves.

sucks that there is little Russia - India cooperation in space . jointly building space craft and station would have been great.

Chinese are building a new crew module to replace Shenzhou.

 

[mokoman]

No, it's not , Gaganyaan is fully our design, Gaganyaan is the only manned spacecraft in the world with Hexagonal service Module....as far as crew module is concerned, almost every crew module is similar in shape.

Earlier ISRO planned to use Russian ECLSS, now developing indigenous one

Even the interiors of Gaganyaan are completely different than that of Soyuz
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Now, try to compare with this analogy, Just because AMCA & J-31 looks similar, that doesn't mean AMCA is copy of J-31, similarly u cannot call Gaganyaan as derivative of Soyuz, no where Gaganyaan looks similar to Soyuz

isnt the service module round ?

 

[Vamsi]

isnt the service module round ?

Only ours is Hexagonal, all others are cylindrical

 

[TopWatcher]

If ISRO increase container size of CE in gslv mk 3 then will able to take payload directly to moon?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

If ISRO increase container size of CE in gslv mk 3 then will able to take payload directly to moon?

Depends upon mass of payload.

 

[TopWatcher]

Depends upon mass of payload.

Payload same 4T