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अथ भूमिप्रदेशज्ञास्सूत्रकर्मविशारदाः। स्वकर्माभिरताश्शूराः खनका यन्त्रकास्तथा।।2.80.1।। कर्मान्तिकाः स्थपतयः पुरुष यन्त्रकोविदाः। तथा वार्धकयश्चैव मार्गिणो वृक्षतक्षकाः।।2.80.2।।

Civil engineering during the Ramayana. If you go by my Timeline it occured pre 3,500 BCE.
 

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अथ भूमिप्रदेशज्ञास्सूत्रकर्मविशारदाः। स्वकर्माभिरताश्शूराः खनका यन्त्रकास्तथा।।2.80.1।। कर्मान्तिकाः स्थपतयः पुरुष यन्त्रकोविदाः। तथा वार्धकयश्चैव मार्गिणो वृक्षतक्षकाः।।2.80.2।।

Civil engineering during the Ramayana. If you go by my Timeline it occured pre 3,500 BCE.
And Bhagwan Ram was 57th generation of Raghu Vansh and 81st of Ikshvaku Vansh !? What a long history !!
 

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And Bhagwan Ram was 57th generation of Raghu Vansh and 81st of Ikshvaku Vansh !? What a long history !!
Rulers of Vishala Kingdom on the northern bank of River Ganga were blessed to have very long life. The Vishal Dynasty was established by King Vishal, Son of Ikshvaku.
 

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At the present time, the Kali-yuga has already passed its 5000 years. Now the king Sankha is ruling the earth and in the mleccha countries the king named Sakapat is ruling. When the Kali-yuga passed 2000 years, the dynasty of mlecchas increased. They created many paths to grow and gradually the whole earth become full of mlecchas. The spiritual master and teacher of the mlecchas was named Musa also knewn as the Moses. There are four kinds of mleccha languages: Vraja-bhasa, Maharastri, Yavani and Garundika. In this way there are four million kinds of other languages. The word pitri is called paitara and bhrata is bather and also pati. This is the yavani lanugage in which the asva is called aspa, Janu is jainu and sapta-sindhu is called sapta-hindu. Sindhu became Hindu .

Now you hear about Gurundika language. Ravi-vara (the first day of the week) is called sunday, phalguna and chaitra months are called pharvari (February). Sasti is called sixty, these kinds of examples are there. Crime is becoming prominent in the holy place of Sapta-puri. Gradually the people of Aryavata are becoming theives, hunters, bhillas and fools. The followers of mleccha-dharma in foreign countries are intelligent and having good qualities, whereas the people of Aryavarta are bereft of good qualities. Thus the ruling of mlecchas is also in Bharata (India) and its islands. Knowing all this, O great and intelligent sage, you should just perform the devotional service to Lord Hari. Now it's clear who are Gurundas . Gurundas are Britishers and Gurundas is English . Aanglabhasha is another name for English however here it is used as Gurundika Gurundas are Britishers . Gurundas are people speaking Gurundika language which is English . Now let's se this prophecy in Srimad Bhagwatamto have a clear picture .

Srimad Bhagwatam is popular for its authenticity as there are total 100+ commentaries on this Purana from 14th century to 21st century . Earliest complete commentary which is available completely today is by Shridhar Swami who was born in 14th century . So there is no question of Interpolation mad after coming of Muslims or britishers in Srimad Bhagwatam. The First Chapter of 12th canto of Srimad Bhagwatam briefly describes the future kings of the dynasty of Magadha and how they become degraded because of the influence of the Age of Kali.There were twenty kings who ruled in the family of Pūru, in the dynasty of the sun-god, Counting from Uparicara Vasu to Purañjaya. After Purañjaya, the lineage of this dynasty will become corrupted. Following Purañjaya there will be five kings known as the Pradyotanas, who are then followed by the Śiśunāgas, the Mauryas, the Śuṅgas, the Kāṇvas, thirty kings of the Andhra nation, seven Ābhīras, ten Gardabhīs, sixteen Kaṅkas, eight Yavanas, fourteen Turuṣkas, ten Guruṇḍas, eleven Maulas, five Kilakilā monarchs and thirteen Bāhlikas.

Now Srimad Bhagwatam is the Purana which mentions about Prophecy of Britishers atleast 500–600 years before their real advent . Alberuni mentions Srimad Bhagwatam in his works so this Purana is atleast 1000 years old . The Commentary of Shridhar Swami of 14th century has this verse . You can check over http://archive.org for verification . The scanned manuscript is available. This is the verse mentioning Britishers in Bhagwatam ( Bhagwata Puran ) Śrimad Bhagwatam 12.1.28.

ततोऽष्टौ यवना भाव्याश्चतुर्दश तुरुष्कका: । भूयो दश गुरुण्डाश्च मौला एकादशैव तु ॥ २८ ॥ Eight Yavanas will then take power, followed by fourteen Turuṣkas, ten Guruṇḍas and eleven kings of the Maula dynasty. So clearly the Sages could see future and the prediction was fulfilled
Uttama Shloka ( उत्तम श्लोक )
In some Puranas instead of the word Maula , Mauna ( Silent ) is there . Gitapress suggests that it means so called silent kings rulers of democracy.

From Uttama Sholka.
 

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12,000 BCE First aryans
From where?

8,000 BCE Suryavansha Dynasty founded
What about the Chandravanshis?
6,000 BCE The Battles of the 10 Kings
6,000 BCE To 5,000 BCE Wars in the Central Asia
5,800 BCE Narshima comes to the Earth
5,500 BCE Division of the Vedic Society
5,000 BCE Ramayana
4,700 BCE Emperor Bharata
Time line confusing. The Dasarajna yuddha (battle of the 10 kings) is the story of King Sudas, a descendant of King Bharata. King Bharata predates even the Rg Veda.
 
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From where?



What about the Chandravanshis?


Time line confusing. The Dasarajna yuddha (battle of the 10 kings) is the story of King Sudas, a descendant of King Bharata. King Bharata predates even the Rg Veda.
Oh thanks will make the necessary changes.
 

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12,000 BCE First aryans
8,000 BCE Suryavansha Dynasty founded
8,000 BCE Chandravansh Dynasty Emerges
79?? BCE Agnivansha Emerges
79?? BCE Nagavanshi Emerges
7960 BCE Bharata Tribe Emerges
7,800 BCE Founding of the 36 Aryans Tribes
7,600 BCE Founding of the Sindhu-Sarasvati Cultures
7,550 BCE Towards Iran
7,500 BCE Towards Central Asias
7,400 BCE Towards China and SEA
7,400 BCE Founding of the Kulu Kingdome
7,400 BCE Founding of the Panchala Kingdome
7,300 BCE Founding of the Ghandharas Empire
7,000 BCE Founding of the 36 royal races
6,900 BCE Birth of the King Keśin Dālbhya of Kulu
6,600 BCE Most of the Janapadas emerges
6,600 BCE Emperor Bharata
6,000 BCE The Battles of the 10 Kings
6,000 BCE To 5,000 BCE Wars in the Central Asia
5,800 BCE Narshima comes to the Earth
5,500 BCE Division of the Vedic Society
5,000 BCE Ramayana
4,700 BCE Bharata Varsha is habitated by various Kingdom and tribes all over.
4,000 BCE 230 Janapadas
3,500 BCE Mahabharata
3,000 BCE Mahavira
2400 BCE Gautam Buddha
 

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What's the focus of this thread ? Seems all over the place. Closed.
 

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@Shaitan :cool1:
Kailash Chand Jain and others believe that Vikramaditya was an Ujjain based Malwa king in 1 Century BCE . The Shakas advanced from Sindh to Malwa around the first century BCE, and were defeated by Vikramaditya. The Krita era, which later came to be known as Vikrama Samvat, marked this victory. ChandraGupta II later adopted the title of Vikramaditya after defeating the Shakas. Proponents of this theory say that Vikramaditya is mentioned in works dating to before the Gupta Era including BrihatKatha and Gaths SaptaShati. Vikramaditya cannot be based on Chandragupta II, since the Gupta capital was at Pataliputra (not Ujjain). According to Raj Pruthi, legends surrounding this first-century king gradually became intertwined with those of later kings called "Vikramaditya" including Chandragupta II.
 

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Cammon Nibbiars how can this Timeline be Correct. :confused1:

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I believe Hindu history is much older than we have calculated so far. Ramayan occurred in Dwapar Yug. Satya Yug is still a mystery. I am not claiming it but Neandarthal disappeared 40000 years ago, but similar figures are there in Ramayan as Vanars.
 

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Excavations conducted at Dum dum between 2000-2003 revealed 3,000 years old civilization. Excavations at Bethun college North Kol on 1997-98 revealed a Gupta era civilization upto medieval age. ASI closed that site for unknown reasons & it's closed till this day. The excavation took place around 1997-98, only bits & pieces of it's a available. They don't mention exactly where the excavation took place. This clearly support that bengal was inhabited as mentioned in the Timeline.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The senior archaeologists at the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) claimed that the epic of Mahabharata could be as old as 1500-2000 BCE or even older, against the presently believed era of 900-1000 BCE, The discovery of three pre-Iron Age chariots in the present-day Western Uttar Pradesh's Baghpat district in June 2018 had electrified the historians and the archaeologists alike. The Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) stumbled upon the chariots, found inside burial pits at Sanauli, around 75 km from Delhi. The site was earlier excavated in the years 2003-04 and 2005-06, revealing a necropolis. It is the largest known burial site in India. The present excavations led by S K Manjul, Director of Institute of Archaeology, ASI found the chariots buried with dead bodies.

The chariots discovered have two wheels fixed on an axle that was linked by a long pole to the yoke of a pair of animals. A super structure was attached to the axle consist of a platform protected by side-screens and a high dashboard. The wheels were found solid in nature, without any spokes, and studded with triangular pieces of copper.

According to a TOI report, carbon dating has now confirmed that the burials date back to 1900 BC, making the chariots 3,800 years old. In this article, we will examine the implications of Sanauli findings. In a paper published in the Indian Journal of Archaeology, Vijay Kumar notes that the pottery found at the Sanauli site is of Ochre Coloured Pottery (OCP) culture. The OCP is a 4000 BC to 2000 BC Bronze Age culture of the Indo-Gangetic plain. It was a contemporary neighbour of the Sindhu-Saraswati civilisation.

“The material found from excavations in western UP shows potsherds with Harappan script. It indicates that between 2500 BC and 2000 BC, the people of Indus valley and Upper Ganga valley were using common script” Kumar also notes that the OCP weapons can be seen all over India. “It appears that they were importing copper and finished copper objects from all over India”.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars Remnants of ancient fortifications in Khurda, Odisha indicate a city dating back all the way to the 10 th cen B.C. At its prime Sisupalgarh was one of the largest cities of the ancient world. Sisupalgarh is believed to the city invaded by Ashoka during the Kalinga war. As per archaeologists, the city flourished continuously for close to 1,000 years.
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Ya'll Nibbiars Remnants of ancient fortifications in Khurda, Odisha indicate a city dating back all the way to the 10 th cen B.C. At its prime Sisupalgarh was one of the largest cities of the ancient world. Sisupalgarh is believed to the city invaded by Ashoka during the Kalinga war. As per archaeologists, the city flourished continuously for close to 1,000 years.
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Well that dynasty that ruled this kingdom at that time were descendents of sisupal and that dynasty was known as chedi dynasty. Kharvela is considered the most glorious and successful emperor of this dynasty. This chedi dynasty was the descendent/successor to the more ancient Yadav dynasty.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars Whether we Agree with Ok or Not, But Fact is that for FIRST time such Systematic&Scientific approach has been followed which pushed our Civilization DATE beyond 10,000BC, than being Labelled a mere 5000Yr Old As a True Sanatani he accepted & defended via शास्त्रार्थ.
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Don't drag Sri Lanka into this Ramanaya stuff... the island of Sinhales has nothing do with it...
 

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