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Ya'll Nibbiars If every passenger car in the world was switched to an BEV tomorrow, global CO2 emissions would decline between 0 and 5%. That's because EVs have their own, unappreciated carbon footprint. So get your self to learn more about this. It's would be better to be recharged like FCEV than carrying heavy batteries. There is sometimes like Law of diminishing Returns.

Bhagwaan Uvacha.
 

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Burma directly link to northeast of India,This is the most feasible plan.
Ya'll Nibbiars India has it's own plan implementation in the Initial phase but is on hold due to lack of fund's and political will in Burma. The first phases will have Transportation and trade link made and then light industrial development in the second phase.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars If every passenger car in the world was switched to an BEV tomorrow, global CO2 emissions would decline between 0 and 5%. That's because EVs have their own, unappreciated carbon footprint. So get your self to learn more about this. It's would be better to be recharged like FCEV than carrying heavy batteries. There is sometimes like Law of diminishing Returns.

Bhagwaan Uvacha.
when it comes to these sort of gyanbaazi, one has to be aware of the basis on which these articles are written. Yesterday someone had posted an video on biofuels & today this.

When such information comes from muricans and Europeans, we need to recognise that they are talking from their country’s perspective, simply because as we know they are self centred. their world does not exist beyond their country, hence their world view is limited.

These sort of ideas cannot be taken at face value unless some neutral domain expert evaluates these scenarios for Indian conditions.

for example, carbon footprint for EV batteries could be limited once people start to charge their batteries using rooftop solar. US has restrictions on installing rooftop solar we don’t.
 

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when it comes to these sort of gyanbaazi, one has to be aware of the basis on which these articles are written. Yesterday someone had posted an video on biofuels & today this.

When such information comes from muricans and Europeans, we need to recognise that they are talking from their country’s perspective, simply because as we know they are self centred. their world does not exist beyond their country, hence their world view is limited.

These sort of ideas cannot be taken at face value unless some neutral domain expert evaluates these scenarios for Indian conditions.

for example, carbon footprint for EV batteries could be limited once people start to charge their batteries using rooftop solar. US has restrictions on installing rooftop solar we don’t.
Ya'll Nibbiars and do you think the Solar power on the roof top could provided enough energy to recharge. And even with that there would be significant carbon emissions. You can't just ignore that. They have inherent significant carbon emissions. And Do we have enough in-depth studies that really show that recycling has less impact? Because separating various elements chemically linked together is not easy.

And CO2 emission would be reduced by about <5%, since transport is ~12% half of which is cars, and a lot of electricity is still generated with fossil fuels even with other sources. However to offset C02 from production it's on average 1.6 years.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars India has it's own plan implementation in the Initial phase but is on hold due to lack of fund's and political will in Burma. The first phases will have Transportation and trade link made and then light industrial development in the second phase.
It turned out that there was another plan to connect from western China to India, but that plan was too far away from the economically developed areas of China to be a priority.
It is more feasible and shorter to connect to India through Yunnan and Myanmar, but the northeastern part of India is too far away from India's economically developed areas.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars If every passenger car in the world was switched to an BEV tomorrow, global CO2 emissions would decline between 0 and 5%. That's because EVs have their own, unappreciated carbon footprint. So get your self to learn more about this. It's would be better to be recharged like FCEV than carrying heavy batteries. There is sometimes like Law of diminishing Returns.

Bhagwaan Uvacha.
Bio fuel and e vehicle ll reduce our dependence on imported fossil fuel.. And thats all that matters . Also reduce pollution in cities . Carbon foot print etc is least of our concern now .
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars and do you think the Solar power on the roof top could provided enough energy to recharge. And even with that there would be significant carbon emissions. You can't just ignore that.
how will there be carbon emissions from a rooftop solar, when there is no IC engine involved in the entire process, post installation of rooftop solar? there is no hydro carbon fuel burning to produce emissions.

and lithium ion batteries will not be used for ever, there would different kind of ion batteries once people start using EV abundantly.

A rooftop solar doesn’t necessarily mean only rooftop, ultimately it’s the battery banks that need to be charged.
 

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One of the niche key to power saving is by increasing equipment efficiency.

Promote the production of LED distribute it among the public with subsidy.

Decrease taxes on 5 star equipment.

Make standalone equipment like Solar Street lamp in village's.

Subsidise solar panels so that people can use it in their houses and Farms.

The key is Decentralisation of each and everything.

Further Gov should invest in R&D for research is cost cutting method in Electric transmission and production.

R&D to increase efficiency of Solar panels, Nuclear reactors, Hyrdo, Wind.
 

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how will there be carbon emissions from a rooftop solar, when there is no IC engine involved in the entire process, post installation of rooftop solar? there is no hydro carbon fuel burning to produce emissions.

and lithium ion batteries will not be used for ever, there would different kind of ion batteries once people start using EV abundantly.

A rooftop solar doesn’t necessarily mean only rooftop, ultimately it’s the battery banks that need to be charged.
Ya'll Nibbiars I never said any thing release to the solar about the BEV inheriant Carbon Emission atleast here why are you bending my post?.
 

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Bio fuel and e vehicle ll reduce our dependence on imported fossil fuel.. And thats all that matters . Also reduce pollution in cities . Carbon foot print etc is least of our concern now .
Ya'll Nibbiars Bio Fuel yeas BEV i am not sure.
 

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how will there be carbon emissions from a rooftop solar, when there is no IC engine involved in the entire process, post installation of rooftop solar? there is no hydro carbon fuel burning to produce emissions.

and lithium ion batteries will not be used for ever, there would different kind of ion batteries once people start using EV abundantly.

A rooftop solar doesn’t necessarily mean only rooftop, ultimately it’s the battery banks that need to be charged.
I think he is talking about carbon footprint during the making of Solar panels.
Other than that Solar panels also produce heating effect.

Still solar is the way to go.

Read this

How Clean Is The Solar Panel Manufacturing Process? How Much Carbon Dioxide Is Produced?

I just don't believe that Solar is the end all be all.
We should look at other means of energy source as well as increase energy saving.
 

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I think he is talking about carbon footprint during the making of Solar panels.
Other than that Solar panels also produce heating effect.

Still solar is the way to go.

Read this

How Clean Is The Solar Panel Manufacturing Process? How Much Carbon Dioxide Is Produced?

I just don't believe that Solar is the end all be all.
We should look at other means of energy source as well as increase energy saving.
yes, I too have an eye on that heating effect problem. now a days nobody is talking about it much, everybody has limited the majority of entire discourse to carbon emissions.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars Bio Fuel yeas BEV i am not sure.
Adding ethanol to fossil fuel reduce emission due to increased combustion efficiency . CO and unburnt hydro carbon wont be released .. Talking abt carbon foot print Real energy transition in world ll be led by fusion , methane hydrate and thorium .... But that ll take half a century more .
 

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yes, I too have an eye on that heating effect problem. now a days nobody is talking about it much, everybody has limited the majority of entire discourse to carbon emissions.
Other than Heating effect there is a problem of E waste in Solar.
This can be countered by proper laws.

1)Make a law that prevents disposing off of Solar Panels by kawadiwalas by crushing or burning.

2) Promote Solar Panel Recycling plant through gov PLI.

3)Make a law that prevents people from disposing off e waste on their own.
Call it the toxic waste disposal act.

Every problem can be countered
 

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One of the niche key to power saving is by increasing equipment efficiency.

Promote the production of LED distribute it among the public with subsidy.

Decrease taxes on 5 star equipment.

Make standalone equipment like Solar Street lamp in village's.

Subsidise solar panels so that people can use it in their houses and Farms.

The key is Decentralisation of each and everything.

Further Gov should invest in R&D for research is cost cutting method in Electric transmission and production.

R&D to increase efficiency of Solar panels, Nuclear reactors, Hyrdo, Wind.
Ya'll Nibbiars and even with that the BEV suffer from the following problems.

1 . Inherent Carbon Emission's. And even without lithium Ion batteries which are not going anywhere soon. I am hearing this for a decade.

2 . Loss of energy during the Transmission. Which is hard to reduce even with improving in the Infrastructure specially in India which is happening slowly.

3 . The Law of Diminishing Return's.

4 . The emission would be still only be reduced by 77 percent at most even with other source of energy and environmentaly friendly manufacturing processes. Get this notion of 100 % clean energy there is nothing like that.

5 . And why you want to carry heavy batteries with you?. Even it's weight is reduce the overall weight will remain the same in order to increase the range. And that's not a efficient way.

And I have more hopes for the Bio Fuel and FCEV. Sorry this is my personal opinion's.
 

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