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MSP is given for major crops because a large number of farmers livelihood depend on them. For many perishable crops such as onions(another politically active crop), tomatoes, potatoes etc have no MSPs. So its going to be there. Now coming to your second bleating point about APMCs. APMC offer a standardised market place for farmers and buyers to come at one place and trade each other. They provide office space/shops to traders/buyers and provide farmers a place to bring their produce along with a temporary storage area and warehousing space also. The APMC charge s a fee called mandi fee or mandi tax from the buyer and seller to as a service charge. But here comes the catch. In most Apmc s only registered buyers can go. And the farmers cant sell their produce directly but through an Adhtiya or commission agent. This commision agent often decides the trade price himself and keeps the farmer in dark about the actual market scenario, thus often exploiting or misguiding them. In return for this favor the commision agent provides services to farmers such as grading, sorting labour, packing material etc which farmers dont have access too. These Apmc s have become a tool of monopolistic practices and have outlived their purpose. The Govt by the new bills are trying to break this monopoly, therefore the resistance.
First Potatoes do have MSP ,who told you there isn't ? are they getting MSP is different thing all together.
Govt could have simply reform the existing APMC for the problem you mentioned above, but what it did instead. it brought desi as well as foreign pvt player for monopolisation, with no oversight ,and infringed on subject matter out of center jurisdiction. APMC is state subject. the goal is to destroy Mandi, state tax revenue , and finally MSP. So pvt player can fix things on there own.
 
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BJP like every other party is socialist in nature.

BJP in its first term went around handing money and yojna's as if money was growing on trees.

they realized their mistakes when all the unchecked spending came to bite the, back in the second term.

socialist policies for a developing country like India is simply not sustainable. they understood this the hard way when business corporations and the middle class started hoarding money. all of a sudden they realized that nobody was ready to fund their mad spending anymore.

this came as a shock to nirmala tai who thought she continue her reckless spending through second term.


so the govt decided to stakes at bpcl in the name of strategic disinvestment so that they could fund what they started and then started putting their focus on free market policies.

still the reforms are slow and tardy but atleast they are coming.

and then we have commies who will oppose anything logical so that they can suck this nation dry.
 

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First Potatoes do have MSP ,who told you there isn't ? are they getting the MSP is different thing all together. Second registered for buyer is needed to keep tab on who is buying and for how much , providing data to govt. No such thing if anyone start buying from anyone as he please ,without any oversight.
Govt could have simply reform the existing APMC for the problem you mentioned above, but what it did instead. it brought desi as well as.foreign pvt player for monopolisation, with no oversight ,and infringed on subject matter out of center jurisdiction. APMC is state subject. the goal is to destroy Mandi, state tax revenue , and finally MSP. So pvt player can fix things on there own.
Okay. Why should it be a Govt concern to know who is buying for how much. There are so many desi as well as foreign pvt players already working in agri markets. Reliance buys apple farms on contract in Himachal, Pepsico buys potatoes in Gujarat on contract. Even Patanjali does contract farming of Aloevera. And so many others. U really dont know how food lands on our tables.
 

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Okay. Why should it be a Govt concern to know who is buying for how much. There are so many desi as well as foreign pvt players already working in agri markets. Reliance buys apple farms on contract in Himachal, Pepsico buys potatoes in Gujarat on contract. Even Patanjali does contract farming of Aloevera. And so many others. U really dont know how food lands on our tables.
It is govt concern because it is there duty to look for well being of there citizen. They are voted in first place for that , to serve people not corporate or pvt interests , in this case poor farmers by making sure they are getting fair MSP price at minimum. They are not being exploited or land is not being sold to big companies due to farmer distress. It's duty of people with power to help weak , not to make there lives miserable.
.Reliance buys apple farms on contract in Himachal, Pepsico buys potatoes in Gujarat on contract. Even Patanjali does contract farming of Aloevera. And so many others. U really dont know how food lands on our tables
Where did i said i am against pvt players ? All i am saying is MSP by law with govt oversight making sure fair price remain + no exploitation that's all.
 

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Lmaooooo


Bill has been passed in rajya sabha now go cry a river commie.
This bill is a much needed one both for farmers and common people,
the middle men who will be hit huge would definitely be crying....

This will have huge implications in MH.....
 

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First Potatoes do have MSP ,who told you there isn't ? are they getting MSP is different thing all together.
Govt could have simply reform the existing APMC for the problem you mentioned above, but what it did instead. it brought desi as well as foreign pvt player for monopolisation, with no oversight ,and infringed on subject matter out of center jurisdiction. APMC is state subject. the goal is to destroy Mandi, state tax revenue , and finally MSP. So pvt player can fix things on there own.
Tell me the MSP of potatoes bugger or shut off ur hole :troll:
 

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They cut RSTV feed :rofl: ha ha! Kitni phati hai inki. This will result in massive protest and probably even violence all over country. This govt has exposed itself fully for everyone to see.
 

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removing Mandi control and eventually the bs export control would mean farmers being able to export to goras themselves, not the middlemen
 

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LoL bill was pass by voice vote :rofl: . Kitni besharam govt hai, sare aam loot ho rahi hai desh ki , Pradhan mantri khud kar raha hai :lol: humay to apno ne loota geroon main kanha dam thaa :tsk: g***d fati hai inki ha! ha! ,Chor ki dadi main tinka.
 

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OT a bit, where can i get full FarmBill 2020? pdf anyone? Themx.
NVM, got it from here, putting it out there for everyone else.
Lok Sabha passes The Farmers' Produce Trade and Commerce (Promotion and Facilitation) Bill, 2020 and The Farmers (Empowerment and Protection) Agreement of Price Assurance and Farm Services Bill, 2020

Farmers will now have freedom for direct marketing of their produce and will be able to get better prices, MSP procurement system will continue, consumers will also benefit - Union Minister of Agriculture & Farmers’ Welfare Shri Narendra Singh Tomar

The reforms will accelerate agricultural growth through private sector investment in building agricultural infrastructure and supply chains for Indian farm produce in national and global markets, create employment opportunities and strengthen the economy

Posted On: 17 SEP 2020 9:50PM by PIB Delhi

Two bills aimed at transforming agriculture in the country and raising farmers’ income were passed by Lok Sabha today. The Farmers' Produce Trade and Commerce (Promotion and Facilitation) Bill, 2020 and The Farmers (Empowerment and Protection) Agreement of Price Assurance and Farm Services Bill, 2020 were introduced in Lok Sabha on 14th September 2020 by Union Minister of Agriculture & Farmers’ Welfare, Rural Development & Panchayati Raj, Shri Narendra Singh Tomar, to replace ordinances promulgated on 5th June 2020.



Replying to the discussion on the Bills before they were passed by the Lok Sabha today, Shri Narendra Singh Tomar said that the Government under Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi is fully committed to the welfare of Gaon-Garib-Kisan. He reassured emphatically that while farmers will now be freed from the restrictions of having to sell their produce at designated places only, the procurement at Minimum Support Price will continue and mandis established under State laws will also continue to operate. The Union Agriculture Minister said that these legislations will bring about revolutionary transformation and transparency in the agriculture sector, electronic trading will increase, there will be accelerated agricultural growth as private investment will be attracted in building supply chains and agricultural infrastructure, new employment opportunities will be created and rural economy will get a boost, which will in turn help to strengthen the national economy.



The Farmers' Produce Trade and Commerce (Promotion and Facilitation) Bill, 2020 seeks to provide for the creation of an ecosystem where the farmers and traders enjoy the freedom of choice relating to sale and purchase of farmers' produce which facilitates remunerative prices through competitive alternative trading channels to promote efficient, transparent and barrier-free inter-State and intra-State trade and commerce of farmers' produce outside physical premises of markets or deemed markets notified under various State agricultural produce market legislations; to provide a facilitative framework for electronic trading and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto.



Background

Farmers in India suffered from various restrictions in marketing their produce. There were restrictions for farmers in selling agri-produce outside the notified APMC market yards. The farmers were also restricted to sell the produce only to registered licensees of the State Governments. Further, barriers existed in free flow of agriculture produce between various States owing to the prevalence of various APMC legislations enacted by the State Governments.



Benefits

The new legislation will create an ecosystem where the farmers and traders will enjoy freedom of choice of sale and purchase of agri-produce. It will also promote barrier-free inter-state and intra-state trade and commerce outside the physical premises of markets notified under State Agricultural Produce Marketing legislations. This is a historic-step in unlocking the vastly regulated agriculture markets in the country.



It will open more choices for the farmer, reduce marketing costs for the farmers and help them in getting better prices. It will also help farmers of regions with surplus produce to get better prices and consumers of regions with shortages, lower prices. The Bill also proposes an electronic trading in transaction platform for ensuring a seamless trade electronically.



The farmers will not be charged any cess or levy for sale of their produce under this Act. Further there will be a separate dispute resolution mechanism for the farmers.



One India, One Agriculture Market

The Bill basically aims at creating additional trading opportunities outside the APMC market yards to help farmers get remunerative prices due to additional competition. This will supplement the existing MSP procurement system which is providing stable income to farmers.



It will certainly pave the way for creating One India, One Agriculture Market and will lay the foundation for ensuring golden harvests for our hard working farmers.



The Farmers (Empowerment and Protection) Agreement of Price Assurance and Farm Services Bill, 2020 seeks to provide for a national framework on farming agreements that protects and empowers farmers to engage with agri-business firms, processors, wholesalers, exporters or large retailers for farm services and sale of future farming produce at a mutually agreed remunerative price framework in a fair and transparent manner and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto.



Background

Indian Agriculture is characterized by fragmentation due to small holding sizes and has certain weaknesses such as weather dependence, production uncertainties and market unpredictability. This makes agriculture risky and inefficient in respect of both input & output management.



Benefits

The new legislation will empower farmers for engaging with processors, wholesalers, aggregators, wholesalers, large retailers, exporters etc., on a level playing field without any fear of exploitation. It will transfer the risk of market unpredictability from the farmer to the sponsor and also enable the farmer to access modern technology and better inputs. It will reduce cost of marketing and improve income of farmers.



This legislation will act as a catalyst to attract private sector investment for building supply chains for supply of Indian farm produce to national and global markets, and in agricultural infrastructure. Farmers will get access to technology and advice for high value agriculture and get ready market for such produce.



Farmers will engage in direct marketing thereby eliminating intermediaries resulting in full realization of price. Farmers have been provided adequate protection. Sale, lease or mortgage of farmers’ land is totally prohibited and farmers’ land is also protected against any recovery. Effective dispute resolution mechanism has been provided for with clear time lines for redressal.



Source : https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1655890
 

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Damn! This govt has turn out to be the biggest scammer of them all. Open legalised loot and plunder , haad ho gai bhai. Censoring RSTV and passing bill by voice vote bypassing all parliamentary procedure in a hurry :lol:. Only show's this govt real niyaat and people it serves. Chaloo bhai democracy is officially over in this country. No more drama. Military should wear choodiyaan, because it's only good for that.
 

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Damn! This govt has turn out to be the biggest scammer of them all. Open legalised loot and plunder , haad ho gai bhai. Censoring RSTV and passing bill by voice vote bypassing all parliamentary procedure in a hurry :lol:. Only show's this govt real niyaat and whom does it serve. Chaloo bhai democracy is officially over in this country. No more drama. Military should wear choodiyaan, because it's only good for that.
your tears are making me so happy...

Share the crying videos if possible, I tend to "getOff" on such videos from liberandus...
 

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Damn! This govt has turn out to be the biggest scammer of them all. Open legalised loot and plunder , haad ho gai bhai. Censoring RSTV and passing bill by voice vote bypassing all parliamentary procedure in a hurry :lol:. Only show's this govt real niyaat and people it serves. Chaloo bhai democracy is officially over in this country. No more drama. Military should wear choodiyaan, because it's only good for that.
We need food healthcare and security more than democracy people were getting killed by terrorists under UPA and all they did was lit candles,
68% of the population of didn’t have access to toilets ,
18,000 villages didn’t have electricity and gas connections,
article 370 was imposed on us against our will
They were deliberately delaying the Ayodhya temple issue to cash it in elections
This government has nowhere violated the democratic norms of our country but even if they do I won’t mind it
 

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Damn! This govt has turn out to be the biggest scammer of them all. Open legalised loot and plunder , haad ho gai bhai. Censoring RSTV and passing bill by voice vote bypassing all parliamentary procedure in a hurry :lol:. Only show's this govt real niyaat and people it serves. Chaloo bhai democracy is officially over in this country. No more drama. Military should wear choodiyaan, because it's only good for that.
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A common man in India will live a more happy life under authoritarian regime
Yes, eventually, before that they have to avoid the purges and pray that govt isn't eyeing their land for infrastructure/industrial projects, as said before, there is no protest, no court case etc that works against a proper authoritarian government, you have to just deal with it or get shot.
 

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