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Odisha,WB are better than UP and Bihar in almost every parameter, be it health, be it education, be it access to clean drinking water,be it doctors/hospital beds per capita or any other social parameters.

Buddy ,In the so called "BEST STATE OF INDIA " bodies are piling up due to lack of even the most basic medical care and you are here bragging about "beaming with expressways"...What a shame!

When i was battling COVID,the last thing that i had to worry about was Oxygen supply ,medicine and access to healthcare...a rare luxury for the people of the hindi belt.
Every state was witnessing the same situation. In Delhi, 40 people died in 2 different hospitals due to oxygen shortage. In Punjab, people died due to oxygen shortage. In Goa people died. It’s not just the Hindi belt which suffered.
Rather, UP came out of it faster than other states despite having such a large population.
 

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Can anyone tell me that what effect would be on gdp if our currency grows very at higher pace.
Currently 1 ruppee=0.088 chinese yuan and is growing and would soon outpace.
Does that means anything for our economy,is China growth slowing down
P.s-I am ultra noob in economy so spare me.
 

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Can anyone tell me that what effect would be on gdp if our currency grows very at higher pace.
Currently 1 ruppee=0.088 chinese yuan and is growing and would soon outpace.
Does that means anything for our economy,is China growth slowing down
P.s-I am ultra noob in economy so spare me.
Gdp in dollars terms will increase faster is rupee appreciate faster against dollar.

Our gdp on ppp is about 3 -4 times higher than in dollars terms because rupee is under appreciated.
 

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Gdp in dollars terms will increase faster is rupee appreciate faster against dollar.

Our gdp on ppp is about 3 -4 times higher than in dollars terms because rupee is under appreciated.
China is 16 trillion dollar economy
How would we bridge this huge gap.
Fuxing how did China gained 16 trillion eco so fast.
 

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China is 16 trillion dollar economy
How would we bridge this huge gap.
Fuxing how did China gained 16 trillion eco so fast.
When you have industry at your explotation , you don't have to be troubled by land acquisition and all , you can kill any corrupt person , gloabl supply chain is given to you as a gift , no one to oppose at state government , long term planning due to same government , lot of lobbies , investment friendly atmosphere where labour is exploited where as our labour Don't wanna even do what they are paid for
 

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China is 16 trillion dollar economy
How would we bridge this huge gap.
Fuxing how did China gained 16 trillion eco so fast.
They added 1 trillion dollars to their economy every year since the 2000's.
They did this feat because they are an efficient government like all Communist one party dictatorships.
And they had a limitless source of Capital in the form of Western and later East Asian investment bucks, not to mention the Chinese diaspora money from HK, Taiwan etc.
 

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China is 16 trillion dollar economy
How would we bridge this huge gap.
Fuxing how did China gained 16 trillion eco so fast.
Meh most of it is inflation . If you look at India china gdp ppp gap china is barely 3 times larger than indian economy . They started reform in 1978 while we did only in 1991.

This is why they are ahead on the curve. But that's about it . We are growing just as fasts while chinese are slowing down. We will reach all these milestones step by step.

Right now we are in infrastructure expansion phase which china did from 2000-2015. Which will also result in our becoming huge manufacturing hub which is already happening.

We are already second largest producer of steel and cement in world and fourth in automobiles. All of these are expanding very fast.

Which will result ultimately strengthening of rupee and inflation on nominal GDP. Figure.

Even with an underwhelming rupee we are still adding 300-400 billion USD annual to our gdp easily. Soon enough we will be adding trillion dollars per year just like china.
 

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Very informative video on road infra , water cleaning and Tunnel building and rail electrification.

Now wait for all this massive infrastructure to translate into growth figures. World will be astonished by indian progress in this decade.
Electrification gonna cut a huge amount of oil import .
 

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Meh most of it is inflation . If you look at India china gdp ppp gap china is barely 3 times larger than indian economy . They started reform in 1978 while we did only in 1991.
thanks for telling this,never knew this.
 

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Very informative video on road infra , water cleaning and Tunnel building and rail electrification.

Now wait for all this massive infrastructure to translate into growth figures. World will be astonished by indian progress in this decade.
can't wait for my country to lead in economic front.
hopefully bharat achieves this soon!
 

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It will also reduce logistic costs
Yeah ,but we need trainset more now after electrification as whole train can derive energy and regenerative breaking system would save some good amount of energy , that MWF and dawonsys when completed will give us new aluminium body with lower weight , and faster speed allowance , which further deplete electricity consumption
 

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Modi has better strategy. He is not falling for mindless sensationalism which he know won't last beyond few months.

His solid vote winning formula is
Home for everyone reaching almost completion by 2022. I have seen entire jhuggi belt transformed into concrete houses thanks to modi.

Water by pipe at every house which is massive game changer in rural and backward areas saving families time and effort. Urban media can't even comprehend the significance of this which is a master stroke.

All around infrastructure development which is strengthening manufacturing and construction.

Aayushman bharat which is paying for 40% of indian population health expenese now..

Kisan nidhi Direct money to farmers.

Mudra loan for youth to start new things constantly.

These grand strokes will bring him back to power securely. That is the pulse of India.
At the same time, there are huge drawbacks.
The effect of COVID can't be underestimated. In India, almost everyone I know knows someone who passed away. People dying, the struggles to get hospital bed, remdesivir, oxygen etc. won't be forgotten by people. And the opposition + vulture media have successfully projected it as Modiji's failure.

The Modi wave is over.

BJP may still comeback because
- political void. No single party will get 150 seats in 2024
- Coalition govts are unstable. So, 3rd front is difficult.
- Ram Mandir will be ready and that can create a positive effect on the majority.
 

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Main reason is still a lack of infrastructure which keeps production costs high. If you want price sensitive items to be mass produced in India, the cost of manufacTuring per unit has to be very low. That is what China achieved.
The problem we have is several big infrastructure projects are running beyond deadline. EDFC and WDFC originally were slated for completion by 2020. But the thing is still lagging on and on. Bharatmala despite increased speed is still lagging as the whole road network is not available. Even if we have 6 lane expressways built in remote areas the areas where we connect to major cities and industrial areas are all stuck due to land issues, politics etc. So, the end to end road - from a port into a congested urban area, is never available for transport for a long time.
then cities like Mumbai and Kolkata are a total let down. Despite having an early advantage, both of them have now become so poor and backward. Bengaluru area is the only city that ranks anywhere decently in the innovation index at 60th rank. All of China’s big city clusters are in top 10 in the world. Mumbai is ranked like 99 and Kolkata and other cities are not even on the top 100 in the list. Such is the pathetic state of our urban areas.
Urban areas are the engines of growth. We constantly underinvest in urban areas and then wonder why our growth is not like China’s.
We must identify 4 to 5 cities and make them world class with top class infrastructure for everything from living to health to education to R&D to urban transport. These cities need to be able to get jobs that can get people to an average $30000 per capita income. Plus there should be no political interference in businesses whatsoever. That is when high class talent will work in such cities and innovate.
China did this. Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Chengdu, Chongqing, Xian, Wuhan - all have been developed really well. The per capita income in top 5 of this list is already at $30000, with central business district per capita at $60000. That means there are sizable number of $60000 jobs.
Meanwhile our cities are languishing with broken infrastructure, heavy politics, “india lives in its villages” stupidity, not respecting innovators and wealth creators, pathetic salary for science and research jobs, massive urban slum population holding everyone back etc.
Look at what our stupid politicians did to Adar Poonawalla - drove him out of the country. Now they are looking to setup manufacturing overseas. 🤦 These are job creators and wealth creators. With such disrespect, people will always have this fear that the stupid socialists will burn this country and be reluctant to freely work and innovate in India.
Playing extreme socialist and poverty politics never works.
Most of the Chinese cities you mentioned are either developed along sea coast or inland waterway (Yangtze River)
 

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For people making comparisons between us and the batmuncers, just remember that they were playing the game on easy mode.

Really?
1949-1980 military confrontation with Taiwan backed by USA;
1950-1952 Korean war;
1964 - 1973 Vietnam war;
1989 - 1999 economic and military sanction against China for TianAnMen event;
2012 - 2016 Asia pivot;
2018 - present trade war;

Basically, there were only very few period, China was in a good relationship with West. Most of time, they were either disputing or fighting.

No, Chinese didn't play the game on easy mode, instead they had been one of the big gamblers in history: they took huge risk and they received big rewards.

On the contrast, it was India has been playing easy mode: minimum risk, slowly growth.

Their rise was supported every step of the way by the West whom they now curse.
What support? Do you call the normal business investment as "support"?
Well, then Chinese can say they are supporting West countries who are trying to destroy her. After all, these so called "support" brings enormous economic returns to West.
 

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