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AnantS

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Open Air Malls in Indias are not just rare but almost none. First the Rain's, then The heat.



Chandigarh Sector 17 was designed as open air mall. It had seen its heydays when chandigarh had highest living standard in late 90's to early 2ks. Now it lost its sheen due to crumbling greyed buildings. Chandigarh's growth is hampered by Chandigarh's by laws which were set in 50-60's fit for town of underdeveloped country.
 

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This has been witnessed across the region since last year...already posted about it.

Mills have closed down. Laid off workers, women in particular catch early morning trains to Bangalore from surrounding areas like Kuppam near Bangalore to work as maids, helpers, baby sitters in apartment complexes dotting the IT hub of Whitefield, nearby areas and catch the evening train back.

But all is peachy... wonder what the respective ministries are doing to address the issue.

Bangladesh imports raw cotton from India, spins it into yarn and sends it back... as there are no stringent regulations w.r.t effluent treatment & other environment concerns, they have a big cost advantage from raw material to finished product(dyed fabric). If this continues, expect a few small clusters to appear in the East(Bihar, Bengal) again.. their revival is a must.
 

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Serious countries subsidise the electricity of factories not household.
Serious countries don't put tariff on raw materials like cotton.

Distress hit last year after bumper cotton harvest in China, prices crashed, Russia Ukraine war and the resulting slowdown in demand added to it.

We in India only want sequential growth.. people don't like the odd market shock and annadatas run to the govt demanding to be compensated with taxpayer money.
 
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This has been witnessed across the region since last year...already posted about it.

Mills have closed down. Laid off workers, women in particular catch early morning trains to Bangalore from surrounding areas like Kuppam near Bangalore to work as maids, helpers, baby sitters in apartment complexes dotting the IT hub of Whitefield, nearby areas and catch the evening train back.

But all is peachy... wonder what the respective ministries are doing to address the issue.

Bangladesh imports raw cotton from India, spins it into yarn and sends it back... as there are no stringent regulations w.r.t effluent treatment & other environment concerns, they have a big cost advantage from raw material to finished product(dyed fabric). If this continues, expect a few small clusters to appear in the East(Bihar, Bengal) again.. their revival is a must.
That Hindu article managed to write an entire piece without clarifying anything on demand side of equation.
 

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That Hindu article managed to write an entire piece without clarifying anything on demand side of equation.
Why would they when their motive is to push the agenda of gibs seeking influential mill owners lobby/association?

Nevertheless, rising cost of credit, high power tariff's are a concern and should be addressed.
 

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Chandigarh Sector 17 was designed as open air mall. It had seen its heydays when chandigarh had highest living standard in late 90's to early 2ks. Now it lost its sheen due to crumbling greyed buildings. Chandigarh's growth is hampered by Chandigarh's by laws which were set in 50-60's fit for town of underdeveloped country.
Sector-17 is a Market not Mall.

Chandigarh went all into Brutalist Architecture similar to Noida in its early days. All Govt building, offices, markets were built using Brutalist architecture.

Noida moved away from Brutalist Architecture in early 2000s and Chandigarh moved away from it after 2010s.
 

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There are many bigger super apps in Asia, but they specifically pick Indian to show why super apps are bad. But in reality they are flourishing.

Writing articles is one thing, but promoting them through Ads on 3 Big Tech platforms is to sabotage any Foreign Investment comes to startups in India. One word Economic Terr*rism.

They dont just hate nationalistic politicians, They hate anyone or anything that contributes to progress of India and they actively work against until they or we collapse.

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There are many bigger super apps in Asia, but they specifically pick Indian to show why super apps are bad. But in reality they are flourishing.

Writing articles is one thing, but promoting them through Ads on 3 Big Tech platforms is to sabotage any Foreign Investment comes to startups in India. One word Economic Terr*rism.

They dont just hate nationalistic politicians, They hate anyone or anything that contributes to progress of India and they actively work against until they or we collapse.

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American technology barons occasionally bemoan the lack in the West of “super-apps”, multifaceted online platforms offering a variety of different services. But the global interest in the business model belies the difficulties facing existing super-apps in Asia.

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Their recent performance has disappointed (see chart). Collectively, the market capitalisation of Singapore’s Sea and Grab, South Korea’s Coupang and Kakao, Japan’s Rakuten, and the parent company of India’s Paytm has declined by around 60% since the end of 2021. None of the firms is the same; they each make money from a blend of mobile gaming, social media, e-commerce, ride-sharing and financial payments. What they have in common is an aspiration to bundle together a variety of services which complement one another on one app. They had hoped hoping to emulate Chinese companies, such as Tencent’s WeChat and Alibaba’s Alipay, which pioneered the business model.
But the newer Asian super-apps have been put under huge pressure by a rapidly changing environment. Funding, which was once cheap and plentiful, has dried up, making ambitious growth plans harder to finance. James Lloyd at Citigroup, a bank, notes that China’s super-apps started with a core of profitable and engaging businesses (e-commerce for Alipay and social media in the case of WeChat), which other services were built around. Outside China, few firms have balanced both significant scale and earnings in a similar way.

Kakao, a South Korean firm, most closely fits the bill. Unlike most Asian would-be super-apps, it has been reliably profitable. Yet its share price has declined by 8% this year. Because the company is dominant on its home turf, it is running out of room for further domestic growth. Its ride-hailing arm has a market share in South Korea of as much as 90%, by some estimates. The firm wants to raise the international share of its revenues from 10% today to 30% by 2025—but such global expansion comes at a cost.
At other firms the funding squeeze has inspired ambitions for profitability, which inevitably comes at the expense of previous plans for rapid expansion. GoTo, an Indonesian super-app, created from the merger of Gojek, a ride-hailing company, and Tokopedia, an e-commerce firm, was expected to appoint a former banker, Patrick Walujo, as CEO at its shareholder meeting on June 30th, after we published this. Mr Walujo has stressed that his aim is to make the company profitable.

One Asian consumer-tech firm has bucked this year’s trend. The share price of Paytm, a would-be Indian super-app based around digital payments, has rallied by around 60%. The stock is still less than half of its all-time high, reached shortly after it floated in November 2021, and the firm has yet to make a profit. Nonetheless, its rising share price may reflect something companies elsewhere in Asia lack: a single, large and growing domestic market to work with. Whether that potential for scale proves enough for a more sustainable future for Paytm has yet to be seen.

The idea of a company using a single platform to offer a variety of services to consumers has an intuitive appeal. But after more than a decade of discussion about the coming dominance of super-apps, many of the Asian firms are still struggling to find a balance between size and profitability. With no end in sight to higher funding costs, a speedy recovery for these one-time darlings of tech investors is hard to foresee. ■
 

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Serious countries subsidise the electricity of factories not household.
Serious countries don't put tariff on raw materials like cotton.


>import duties on cotton yarn

See the thing is cotton was mainly domestically procured, so much so that Kanglus buy from us because chaddi baniyan inputs.
This year the harvest was hit because lack or rains or too much rains idk so domestic production has plummeted.
Import duties are to protect local cotton growers and yarn-spinners.

Because they have strong lobbies, especially cotton farmers in MH, dunno which other states produce.
MH is famous for cotton and sugarcane.


Also the other guy is right about subsidised bijli going to consumers and not bijness being chutiyapa, but this is a democrazy and free shit gets you votes, ref KT elections recently and Nizam Aravand al-Khujludeen of Delhi
 

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Atleast GoI got some sense
 

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Atleast GoI got some sense
From the article
"There are growing concerns in the government that many joint ventures "arranged" by the Chinese companies — some of which get state support — are "heavily weighed and controlled by the foreign partner", while the Indian company is more or less a dummy entity, with not much control on technology, decision-making, and other critical know-how," the Times of India claimed.

It's exactly as i thought.
Modi, AS, Home Ministry babooze also read DFI threads.
 

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