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Ya'll Nibbiars The HG Infra bags order for Khamman Deverapalli Greenfield Expressway. And ezsasa Nibba still cry no Expressways in the south.
 

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But sadly even this is no where near enough and means we will still be completely reliant of materials from China




Still no proposed wafer and polysilicon manufacturing units, which make up the bulk of value addition
These are very obvious facts, no need for posting this again and again.

There is high dependency on China that's why there are so many efforts on having our own indigenous manufacturing and products.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Mumbai Currently has 230 plus Topped out skyscrapers. And 270 plus under construction skyscrapers. The height range for 150 to 300 Meters for completed ones and 150 to 350 Meters for the under construction ones
 

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But sadly even this is no where near enough and means we will still be completely reliant of materials from China




Still no proposed wafer and polysilicon manufacturing units, which make up the bulk of value addition
False read actual news not propoganda we are setting up first solar it is entirely independant

We will not be dependant on China's soon

 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Kineco Ltd manufactures nose for Vande Bharat express at their Goa plant. They currently have order book for 68 VB nose & was recently awarded interior works for VB trainsets.
Older nose was weak and ugly , what's with new one ?
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars we have got another set of two supertall. The Omkar 1973 Tower A and Tower B with was estimated to topped out at 269.5 Meters in 2017 when the work stopped has started to rise again in the 2021. And currently at 300 Meters. From 77 floor to 82 floor

This photograph is 6 months Olds. At 295 Meters

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This is 4 Month Olds. At 300 Meters. No spiral still better. The tower B has alos risen upto 300 Meters.

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And FalconSlayers Nibba will still do RR.

:truestory:

And @wh1terose Nibba.

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Ya'll Nibbiars we have got another set of two supertall. The Omkar 1973 Tower A and Tower B with was estimated to topped out at 269 Meters in 2017 when the work stopped has started to rise again in the 2021. And currently at 300 Meters.

This photograph is 6 months Olds. At 289 Meters

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This is 4 Month Olds. At 300 Meters. No spiral still better. The tower B has alos risen upto 300 Meters.

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And FalconSlayers Nibba will still do RR.

:truestory:
What about the unfisni third tower Nibbiars??
 

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Why China Has More Supertalls?.

The engineering standards in China is much looser. Why?. In China, there is no private ownership of properties, when a developer bought a land lot, it means the lot is leased for a limited period, this period is no longer than 50 years if the land is for commercial uses. For this reason, almost all the skyscrapers in China are designed with a lifespan of 50 years, the developers only need to ensure the building to stand safely within 50 years.

And For example, the 599 Meter high Ping An Finance Center is designed with a lifespan of 50 years, and affordable materials were used in the construction, including the cement made with sea sand, which will erode the structural steel gradually, but is allowed to be used in China, for the slight corrosion poses little risk within a period of 50 years. The So, without the need of adhering high engineering standards, Chinese contractors can build mega tall towers more easily.

And Under the lower standards, building collapses are not rare in China, serious problems are often found in skyscrapers in China. One of the most recent cases is the shaking of SEG Plaza in Shenzhen, the 292-meter high skyscraper suddenly began to shake on May 18, 2021, prompting people inside to flee in panic. There was no earthquakes on that day, the shaking is no doubt due to shoddy construction.

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In China, things is totally different, it is well known that the authorities can directly ask the nearby residents to move away to make space for a skyscraper, not to say protests for shadow cast. In China one of the major motives for developing tallest buildings is to improve the image and prestige of a city.
 

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Why China Has More Supertalls?.

The engineering standards in China is much looser. Why?. In China, there is no private ownership of properties, when a developer bought a land lot, it means the lot is leased for a limited period, this period is no longer than 50 years if the land is for commercial uses. For this reason, almost all the skyscrapers in China are designed with a lifespan of 50 years, the developers only need to ensure the building to stand safely within 50 years.

And For example, the 599 Meter high Ping An Finance Center is designed with a lifespan of 50 years, and affordable materials were used in the construction, including the cement made with sea sand, which will erode the structural steel gradually, but is allowed to be used in China, for the slight corrosion poses little risk within a period of 50 years. The So, without the need of adhering high engineering standards, Chinese contractors can build mega tall towers more easily.

And Under the lower standards, building collapses are not rare in China, serious problems are often found in skyscrapers in China. One of the most recent cases is the shaking of SEG Plaza in Shenzhen, the 292-meter high skyscraper suddenly began to shake on May 18, 2021, prompting people inside to flee in panic. There was no earthquakes on that day, the shaking is no doubt due to shoddy construction.

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In China, things is totally different, it is well known that the authorities can directly ask the nearby residents to move away to make space for a skyscraper, not to say protests for shadow cast. In China one of the major motives for developing tallest buildings is to improve the image and prestige of a city.
I think its more to do with restrictive FSI rules in India.
 

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I think its more to do with restrictive FSI rules in India.
Ya'll Nibbiars its not FSI But the CAA Heights restrictions a cap 150 meters in entire Gujarat, 200 meters in NCR special case given to Super nova even that only up to 250 Meters. and in Mumbai now up to 300 Meters. some exception like the Imperial 3 and 4 given up to 350 Meters. In Mumbai FSI of 8 is standard and 18 is available as fungibles.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The NHAI invited bids for Development of 6 Lane Access Controlled Greenfield Expressway of the Bengaluru Vijayawada EC on HAM under BMP in Andhra Pradesh. And ezsasa Nibba still cry no Expressways in the south.

:truestory:
 

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But sadly even this is no where near enough and means we will still be completely reliant of materials from China




Still no proposed wafer and polysilicon manufacturing units, which make up the bulk of value addition
This is the reason Ambani bought a Solar cell manufacturing company which does everything. They are building everything in Jamnagar in an area of 5,000 acres. From solar cells to battery packs to hydrogen fuel cells. And also with First solar entry into Indian market, Chinese grip on Solar market will decrease substantially this decade.

I am more concerned about quality and efficiency of solar panels produced. With respect to efficiency, most Chinese solar panels offer <=18% efficiency which is the average efficiency of solar panels. If we can build solar panels with efficiency rating of above 20% then less land will be required to produce more amount of electricity. Let's look at companies which produce efficient solar panels.

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The 4th company in that list is the company Ambani bought. As you can see they produce very efficient solar panels rated at 22.20% which is very good. You can read more about the REC group solar panel technology in the below article. I think Ambani has bought a good company and will be a great asset for Reliance industries in future and also for the country as a whole.

 

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Stellar Distilleries Pvt. Ltd. to invest 165 crore rupees to set up grain-based ethanol 100 klpd unit at Melakallankulam, Virudhunagar in Tamil Nadu. The unit will be spread over 17 acres and will provide employment to 150 people.
 

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This is the reason Ambani bought a Solar cell manufacturing company which does everything. They are building everything in Jamnagar in an area of 5,000 acres. From solar cells to battery packs to hydrogen fuel cells. And also with First solar entry into Indian market, Chinese grip on Solar market will decrease substantially this decade.

I am more concerned about quality and efficiency of solar panels produced. With respect to efficiency, most Chinese solar panels offer <=18% efficiency which is the average efficiency of solar panels. If we can build solar panels with efficiency rating of above 20% then less land will be required to produce more amount of electricity. Let's look at companies which produce efficient solar panels.

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The 4th company in that list is the company Ambani bought. As you can see they produce very efficient solar panels rated at 22.20% which is very good. You can read more about the REC group solar panel technology in the below article. I think Ambani has bought a good company and will be a great asset for Reliance industries in future and also for the country as a whole.

Is the land acquisition for these stated 5000 acres done? Does anyone has any location detail/image for the same?
 

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Why China Has More Supertalls?.

The engineering standards in China is much looser. Why?. In China, there is no private ownership of properties, when a developer bought a land lot, it means the lot is leased for a limited period, this period is no longer than 50 years if the land is for commercial uses. For this reason, almost all the skyscrapers in China are designed with a lifespan of 50 years, the developers only need to ensure the building to stand safely within 50 years.

And For example, the 599 Meter high Ping An Finance Center is designed with a lifespan of 50 years, and affordable materials were used in the construction, including the cement made with sea sand, which will erode the structural steel gradually, but is allowed to be used in China, for the slight corrosion poses little risk within a period of 50 years. The So, without the need of adhering high engineering standards, Chinese contractors can build mega tall towers more easily.

And Under the lower standards, building collapses are not rare in China, serious problems are often found in skyscrapers in China. One of the most recent cases is the shaking of SEG Plaza in Shenzhen, the 292-meter high skyscraper suddenly began to shake on May 18, 2021, prompting people inside to flee in panic. There was no earthquakes on that day, the shaking is no doubt due to shoddy construction.

View attachment 174899

In China, things is totally different, it is well known that the authorities can directly ask the nearby residents to move away to make space for a skyscraper, not to say protests for shadow cast. In China one of the major motives for developing tallest buildings is to improve the image and prestige of a city.
This description is full of false and outdated information


Where did you get that wrong idea?
 

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Is the land acquisition for these stated 5000 acres done? Does anyone has any location detail/image for the same?
I don't have the images. But yes, they have acquired the land and are already in the process of building manufacturing units. They call it "Green energy complex". Reliance is committed to investing 75,000 crore in this land.
 

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