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Also iirc mcd coaches will have a speed limit of 200+ kmph however will be capped to 160 -180 kmph once operational. The ICF claimed that with minor modifications train 18 can run at 200+ kmph and those are being considered for Pune-Nashik semi HSR.
Ya'll Nibbiars when the service limit was Increased from 130 to 160 Km?. Pune Nasik HSR is still in planning stages.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars according to some one the Grade level Indegiously developed Hover Jet Train can be implemented at just 60 percent of the Foreign Conventional HSR. But after all it's just estimate's. I.e. Like 60 crores per Km for a Foreign conventional Grade level HSR a Jet Hover jet could cost only 36 Crores per Km. After all it's just Grade level Concerte guild rail and structure's. And no electrification long steel rail and other expensive material need to be used. But after all it's just in books. But in order to increase the speed additional cost may be incurred's.
 

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India needs to continue to expand its market.In the past five years, India's mango exports have declined year by year. Thailand mainly exports to China, the largest importer, and Mexico exports to the United States, the second largest importer.
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India doesn’t have the infrastructure or food processing industry as sophisticated as those in Netherland , Hong-Kong or Spain but not modi government is trying to improve it new roads , dedicated freight corridors , Airports etc are being built
The taste of Jardalu mangoes is the best you must try it once
 

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India doesn’t have the infrastructure or food processing industry as sophisticated as those in Netherland , Hong-Kong or Spain but not modi government is trying to improve it new roads , dedicated freight corridors , Airports etc are being built
The taste of Jardalu mangoes is the best you must try it once
Ya'll Nibbiars there are already facilities at the Sindhurg the main Mangoes exporting area. Maharshatra, Utter pardesh, Gujarat, Andhra Paresdh is under the Mangoes Export scheme.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars when the service limit was Increased from 130 to 160 Km?. Pune Nasik HSR is still in planning stages.
wdym? The union government already approved the Pune-Nashik semi high speed railway. Land acquisition also began from May onwards. So the project looks on track! Or am I missing something?
The major railway routes are being upgraded to the 160 kmph speed potential. Work on Delhi-Kolkata and Delhi-Mumbai route already started and is expected to end in a year or two. This is what I last read a few months ago. Also there are a few trains already that attain 160 kmph although only on a few limited stretches, isn't it?
 

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wdym? The union government already approved the Pune-Nashik semi high speed railway. Land acquisition also began from May onwards. So the project looks on track! Or am I missing something?
The major railway routes are being upgraded to the 160 kmph speed potential. Work on Delhi-Kolkata and Delhi-Mumbai route already started and is expected to end in a year or two. This is what I last read a few months ago. Also there are a few trains already that attain 160 kmph although only on a few limited stretches, isn't it?
Ya'll Nibbiars from May nothing happened it's still has to start. Remeber the second wave?
Nasik was in lockdown. Even now partial lockdown. And it will take atlest few years to see any upgraded line with 200 km sustain service. Not before 2 to 4 years that will happen.
 
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Ya'll Nibbiars from May nothing happened it's still has to start. Remeber the second wave?
Nasik was in lockdown. Even now partial lockdown. And it will take atlest few years to see any upgraded line with 200 km sustain service. Not before 2 to 4 years that will happen.
Is 200+ kmph on broad gauges really needed? I mean we are going to have HSR and RRTS, Pune-Nashik, Ahmedabad-Rajkot like systems also. 160-180 kmph would do just fine imo.
Also, if I'm not wrong 200+ kmph has never been attempted on any other gauge other than standard gauge. Pune-Nashik semi hsr is attempting this. To attempt this on a very large scale might be technologically challenging. I am no expert on these issues but afaik changing track gauges and dimensions of coaches drastically affect the technological specifications. Witnessed it in case of Kolkata Metro north-south line where the CRRC shit their pants while making rolling stock for the system coz they could not adjust for the peculiar dimensions (Kolkata metro line 1 uses broad gauge). It has been years since the first set arrived and has not been operational yet. Even ICF struggled with medha rakes and only recently they managed to sort out all the issues and their latest rakes are truly world class.
 

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Is 200+ kmph on broad gauges really needed? I mean we are going to have HSR and RRTS, Pune-Nashik, Ahmedabad-Rajkot like systems also. 160-180 kmph would do just fine imo.
Also, if I'm not wrong 200+ kmph has never been attempted on any other gauge other than standard gauge. Pune-Nashik semi hsr is attempting this. To attempt this on a very large scale might be technologically challenging. I am no expert on these issues but afaik changing track gauges and dimensions of coaches drastically affect the technological specifications. Witnessed it in case of Kolkata Metro north-south line where the CRRC shit their pants while making rolling stock for the system coz they could not adjust for the peculiar dimensions (Kolkata metro line 1 uses broad gauge). It has been years since the first set arrived and has not been operational yet. Even ICF struggled with medha rakes and only recently they managed to sort out all the issues and their latest rakes are truly world class.
Ya'll Nibbiars yeah but from somewhere you have to start. After all will have to increase speed. When the first HSR started in 1964 it's had a top speed of 210 Km. And now even the 360 Km looks average. It would not be far when we will soon see a regular 400 km plus service. Have to think of future Semi HSR on even at 200 Km.
 

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World’s biggest food companies: Top ten by revenue

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none from India I was expecting Haldiram @Haldilal , Patnajali to be there
They have worldwide presence and are existing for long time.
Patanjali just has 1 decade of existence and that too limited to gullible Hindus. Rarely any other sect of human are willing to buy Patanjali stuff.
Surprisingly, Patanjali stores in Middle east has high demands for their products.
 

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Is 200+ kmph on broad gauges really needed? I mean we are going to have HSR and RRTS, Pune-Nashik, Ahmedabad-Rajkot like systems also. 160-180 kmph would do just fine imo.
Also, if I'm not wrong 200+ kmph has never been attempted on any other gauge other than standard gauge. Pune-Nashik semi hsr is attempting this. To attempt this on a very large scale might be technologically challenging. I am no expert on these issues but afaik changing track gauges and dimensions of coaches drastically affect the technological specifications. Witnessed it in case of Kolkata Metro north-south line where the CRRC shit their pants while making rolling stock for the system coz they could not adjust for the peculiar dimensions (Kolkata metro line 1 uses broad gauge). It has been years since the first set arrived and has not been operational yet. Even ICF struggled with medha rakes and only recently they managed to sort out all the issues and their latest rakes are truly world class.
Yep necessary , but only possible with removal of all those turns , standardized platforms , usage of only continuous welded rails , except in crossing , removal of too many crossing and unmanned crossing via rob or rub ,and fencing of tracks
 
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Ya'll Nibbiars yeah but from somewhere you have to start. After all will have to increase speed. When the first HSR stared in 1964 it's had a top speed of 210 Km. And now even the 360 Km looks average. It would not be far when we will soon see a regular 400 km plus service. Have to think of future Semi HSR on even at 200 Km.
For passenger part we need some areas with 230 250 km operational speeds
 

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For passenger part we need some areas with 230 250 km operational speeds
Ya'll Nibbiars even now there are technology to sustain 350 plus average speed just need to make more ways to reduce the sonic bust.
 

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Train 20 was merely a concept. It was never a serious project. The aluminium coach project you are talking about is different. MCF is still on it in collaboration with a Korean company named Dawonsys (sorry if I misspelt).
Arre bhai! Train 20 was just a sleeper version of Train 18.

Some Railway fan boys over YouTube made it next level of Train 18!

Don't consider every news from these YouTube channels are truth.
 
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Ya'll Nibbiars most of our lines can only sustain 130 km speed service. And above that tear and wear.
That 130 kmph was for old Rails produced in country so far.

Few yrs back only SAIL and another private steal mill produced new generation rails which can sustain over 160 KMPH over long duration without any issues.
These new rails only are being used to make Freight corridors and all new upgraded lines all over the country.
 

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Arre bhai! Train 20 was just a sleeper version of Train 18.

Some Railway fan boys in YouTube made it next level of Train 18!

Don't consider every news from these YouTube channels are truth.
Ya'll Nibbiars first need to accelerate the project. Even the Dawonsy's financial health is fallling.
 
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That 130 kmph was for old Rails produced in country so far.

Few yrs back only SAIL and another private steal mill produced new generation rails which can sustain over 160 KMPH over long duration without any issues.
These new rails only are being used to make Freight corridors and all new upgraded lines all over the country.
However to go above 200 or 250 KMPH we would need even better quality Rails. Need to find more exotic material to put in Rails with normal steel to make it harder to sustain higher speed.
This is one are where no country is going to provide us TOT in metallurgy. We need to figure it out ourself.
Just like what SAIL did for our INS Virat, made our own Naval grade steel alloy.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars what is the freight corridors speed?. 50 km 70 Km?.
Freight corridors are using new rails which certifies them for over 120 KMPH speed.
The new Alstom loco has sustained speed over 100 KMPH in many section of the currently opened section of the corridors.
However once the corridors are fully functional, Railway will put in limit to highest speed to below 100, to around 70-80KMPH.
 

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Ya'll Nibbiars first need to accelerate the project. Even the Dawsony's financial health is fallling.
Who is Dawsony?

For Train 18 project, I think Piyush Goyal got played by the Railway babus who were unhappy with Medha group making such high quality aluminum coaches and taking all the credits.
They did hit job over it and Piyush himself cancelled their tenders initially.
Later he must have got dressing from other people that he opened the Tender again and award contracts to three companies now to make the new sets of train 18.

If this stupidity had not happen then we would have already got 3-4 new lines of Train 18 by now.
 

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I recently learned that in India, companies with more than 100 employees need the government's approval if they want to fire employees.

I think this policy is actually a good idea, but the result is very bad. Big business is not friendly, and big business will reduce the number of employees and use third-party companies to hire.There will be corruption in the Process
This policy is totally unfriendly for a long time, and it is entirely set up for the purpose of election.
Corporates do around with this by making employees resign themselves. Firing tens of employees at once may raise eyebrows surely but do it by slowly over the year and nobody notices. In many corporates there is the bottom 5 percent rule wherein the employees rated at the bottom of the performance ratings have to be dumped. They do this by making the employee frustated so much that he/she/it self resigns. This way the onus is on the person and not on the mgmnt. To lay off labourers firms are more and more turning towards contract labour as they have less legal rights and can be laid off any time.
 

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Freight corridors are using new rails which certifies them for over 120 KMPH speed.
The new Alstom loco has sustained speed over 100 KMPH in many section of the currently opened section of the corridors.
However once the corridors are fully functional, Railway will put in limit to highest speed to below 100, to around 70-80KMPH.
99.4 kmph

NEW DELHI: The New Khurja-New Bhaupur section of Eastern Dedicated Freight Corridor set a new record as a freight train averaged a speed of 99.4 kmph.31 May 2021

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...EW DELHI: The New Khurja,a speed of 99.4 kmph.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/b...runs-faster-than-rajdhani-trains-6960071.html
 

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