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We have lots of redundancy in the admin structure like this both on political and Civil level.
Need to cut the excess fat and become lean
not sure, my opinion on this keeps shifting time to time based on circumstances.

re-organisation of govt departments keeps happening from time to time. and govt posts are created after an extensive review, most of the times they are not filled due to lack of funds.

for the next 20 years at least, there should not be any attempts to cut the “excess fat”, considering there is an active global commie plan to replace elected govts with selected authorities. No opportunity should be given for them to say govt was completely absent in that situation.
 

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I think the current Admin Setup of India has mosty disappointed the small cities.
Who is responsible for the development of a District anyway?
Much of our economic policies are concentrated in Tier 2 and Tier 2 cities.

Even the parliament lok sabha representative don't do justice to them
Didn't Baba started a new scheme of one district one product do you know what is the status of that project?
 

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Didn't Baba started a new scheme of one district one product do you know what is the status of that project?
That's a retarded concept I don't need to explain to u why, baba lives in his own retarded lalaland.
Besides there is no one deriving these scheme in the very bottom level of implementation. Schemes formed in Closed rooms remain hangings in close rooms. I have never seen a very big project impacting entire districts of the country in a short time.
Exception being Swach Bharat toilet scheme that too isn't even 70% efficient.
 

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That's a retarded concept I don't need to explain to u why, baba lives in his own retarded lalaland.
Besides there is no one deriving these scheme in the very bottom level of implementation. Schemes formed in Closed rooms remain hangings in close rooms. I have never seen a very big project impacting entire districts of the country in a short time.
Exception being Swach Bharat toilet scheme that too isn't even 70% efficient.
No found something good on this this scheme is primarily for food or perishable itmes and in MP and UP it is being implemented or implemented in some districts with the products identified have a look at this website.

 
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Even Bangladesh has a better female participation rate than us. When half of our workforce is stuck at home how exactly will we grow in the double digits
Bangladesh and African nations are a different stage in this regard.
A bigger percentage of their families depend upon their daily wage labourer earning men. So, women are forced to do labour to earn some more.

In India's case, incomes after 1990s somewhat have grown enough to allow families pursue only men as families earning had. Further transition in next generation has now again started pushing women into jobs. They won't be construction or farm labours like BD, but rather officers, investors and managers.
 

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@Bhumihar Here is update about a identical scheme and the process which will be followed to empower districts with product and related development.



 

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Good to see. I think Odisha is the state with most levelheaded folks in gov. Odisha is able to implement schemes with most efficiency.

Moving jobs to smaller cities also conserve the Local culture of the place.
Also Tamilnadu

But all the scheme depends upon rural fibre broadband connectivity.
As majority of village fiber broadband connectivity is being done by our dear BSNL so I am not very optimistic.
@Kumata bro will share my pessimism.
 

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Also Tamilnadu

But all the scheme depends upon rural fibre broadband connectivity.
As majority of village fiber broadband connectivity is being done by our dear BSNL so I am not very optimistic.
@Kumata bro will share my pessimism.
BSNL is a joke. Recently himachal high court made a observation on them...

Why r u buying outdated 4G equipment when 5 G is on the way...

They have no answer...

To be honest, they have simply laid fibre along NH & SH in few places and are claiming to have fibre in every village.

BSNL Works as per Chacha nehru growth rate of 1 %.. Majority of time they will spend catching up what happened 20 years back.... Unless all gets kicked out and it gets privatised... There is not even a hope of revival...

Ideally GOI shud sell 49% BSNL and give board control to Pvt entity and lockout all babus from. There...
 

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That's a retarded concept I don't need to explain to u why, baba lives in his own retarded lalaland.
Besides there is no one deriving these scheme in the very bottom level of implementation. Schemes formed in Closed rooms remain hangings in close rooms. I have never seen a very big project impacting entire districts of the country in a short time.
Exception being Swach Bharat toilet scheme that too isn't even 70% efficient.
on one hand nationalists keep asking for a form of governance that is closer to bhartiya roots, and when you get one you think it is retarded.

for millennia, every region in Bharat has their own unique products. Jodhpuri sandals, channaPatna toys, etc etc.

When Italians say we have Parmesan cheese, it’s wah wah what an excellent product.
When Indians say uppada pattu sarees, retarded idea is it?

you are confusing policy with implementation, both are different aspects.
 

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This argument is quite poor that Women can work if they want or if they are motivated.
Things are much better in Big cities now but still a big section of society is getting their girls educated for the sake of it as Educated girls have better aspects of getting married.
Here you should see what happens, Boys of the house will ge sent for BTech or other 4 yr Degree programs. Girls of the same house needs to be educated too so they will be asked to do Diploma, BA, MA, Bsc , B.eD, etc.
Good look with motivating these girls for work! It is almost same like not getting them educated or training for any work!
If such king of attitude is there in your family that they can work if they want or if they are motivated then you need to sit down within family and rethink!
It is very easy to say No one will be going to stop the girls if they want to work, but the environment is made such they never put forward their desire to work! Lots of excuses are made and they simply gives up the Idea.
1.WHATS THE OBSESSION WITH WOMEN WORKING.MOST WEEL TO DO FAMILIES IN INDIA,IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY WILL SEND THEIR CHILDREN,BOTH GIRLS AND BOYS TO SCHOOL IN THE HOPES OF GETTNGN A JOB.
THE DECISION OF GIRLS TO NOT WORK IS IN THE END THEIR OWN DECISION.IF THEY CAN DECIDE TO NOT WORK BASED ON SOME HERESAY AND SOE TALKING,THEN I SAY THEY HAVE A HUGE PRIVILEGDE THAT BOYS DONT HAVE.THEY CAN SAY THAT THEY STUDIED AND AWAIT A MAN WITH A GOOD PAYING JOB FOR MARRIAGE.NO ONE IS FORCING THEM TO CHOOSE A SPECIFIC DEGREE OF COURSE EXCEPT MAYBE THERE IS PUSH TO CHOOSE A COURSE PERCIEVED TO BE A JOB PROVIDING ONE INSTEAD OF A USELESS DEGREE.

ONLY MAYBE MULLA FAMILIES AND BPL PEOPLE WILL DECIDE TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN(INCLUDING BOYS) FOR WORK DUE TO LACK OF FUNDS AND CULTURE.

I DONT EVEN SEE ANY SERIOUS PUSH OF PEOPLE IN NOT ALLOWING WOMEN TO WORK ANYWHERE EXCEPT IN EXTREMELY BACKWARD FAMILIES OF MULLAS AND EXTREMELY POOR FAAMILIES.

CAN A MAN SAY THE SAME EXCUSE AND STAY OUT OF WORK.HIS UTILITY AND WORK IS IN HIS EARNING POTENTIAL FOR THE PROSPECTIVE FAMILY - FULL STOP.

SO IF THEY WANT TO WORK THE DOOR IS ALREAADY OPEN TO WOMEN AS LONG AS THEY HAVE LEARNT THE SKILLS IN SCHOOL AND COLLEGE.INDIAN SOCIETY DOES NOT HAVE TO GET BLAME FOR THEIR OWN ADULT DECISIONS OF TURNING DOWN A WORKING LIFE - THIS AINT AFGHANISTAN OR PAKISTAN.

2.ADDING WORKERS INTO AN ECONOMY SHOULD BE BOTH CALCULATED AND ORGANIC.WE DONT JUST NEED A LARGE NO OF GRADUATES AND LEARNERS IN AN ECONOMY THAT DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH JOBS TO ABSORB THE TALENT.IN THAT CASE IT IS JUST WASTE.IT IS ALSO PROBABLE,WOMEN ARE NOT WORKING DUE TO THE PRESSURE OF FINDING A JOB IN THE ABOVE CONDITIONS.

ALSO AND THIS GOES FOR MEN TOO,WE NEED TO SKILL UP PEOPLE IN TARGETTED FIELDS INSTEAD OF JUST TELLING TO STUDY ANYTHING.IF WOMEN ARE TAKING ANY FIELD THEY WANT AND ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH THE SKILLS THE MARKET WANTS,THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO SIT ON THEIR ASSES AND BE UNEMPLOYED ONLY.THAT IS ONLY NATURAL.AGAIN NO ONE FORCED THEM TO CHOOSE THESE MAJORS AND MINORS AND GOD HELP US IF THEY CHOOSE A SJW DEGREE(WHICH THANKFULLY IS NOT A TREND IN INDIA).

3. FEMINISM AND THE WILLINGNESS TO WORK AND PUSHING OF WORK ONTO WOMEN ARE TWO SEPERATE THINGS.

YOU MUST UNDERSTAND MOST WOMEN WOULD CHOOSE TO NOT WORK IF THEY WERE CONVINCED THAT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.A LOT OF WELL TO DO GIRLS I HAVE SEEN WHO ARE EDUCATED ALSO WANT TO JUST SIT DOWN AND LIVE ON THIER HUSBAND INCOME.YOU CANT BLAME THAT ON MEN AND SOCIETY.

4.FINALLY THE INCREASE OF WOMENS LABOUR PARTICIPATION WILL HAPPEN ONLY WHEN JOB GROWTH AND OTHER WELFAARE STATS WILL GROW ORGANICALLY LIKE IMPROVEMENT OF GENERAL EDUCATION.NOT BY FORCING IT.WE CAN CONCENTRAATE ON GENERAL EDUCATION AND SKILLING UP INSTEAAD OF GETTING TOO FRUSTRATED BY NOS OF FEMALE PARTICIPATION.AS IT WILL GROW IN GOOD TIME.

AND REMEMBER,THE GATES OF HEAVEN WONT OPEN WHEN THE MAGIC NO OF WOMEN PARTICIPATION HITS 100%(IF IT EVER CAN),YOU WILL STILL LIVE IN THE NRMAL WORLD EXCEPT THAT CORPORATES WILL HAVE TWICE AS MUCH WAGE SLAVES AND A BETTER REASON TO CUT SALARIES.DONT GET OBSESSED ABOUT 100% PARTICIPATION BECAUSE IN THE END IT IS ABOUT A PAYCHECK.IF THE NO OF PEOPLE ARE MORE AND WAGES ARE DECREASED,THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
 

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Bangladesh and African nations are a different stage in this regard.
A bigger percentage of their families depend upon their daily wage labourer earning men. So, women are forced to do labour to earn some more.

In India's case, incomes after 1990s somewhat have grown enough to allow families pursue only men as families earning had. Further transition in next generation has now again started pushing women into jobs. They won't be construction or farm labours like BD, but rather officers, investors and managers.
Different approaches. In rural India the concept of income to suppliment the earnings of primary member is often followed.
Say you mainten a backyard poultry. Most of the work like looking after and feeding the chicken is done by the ladies of the house.
Their activities aid in the income of the household but still they will be classified as housewife due to lack of permanent job.
So would one count her in the workforce or outside workforce?
 

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1.WHATS THE OBSESSION WITH WOMEN WORKING.MOST WEEL TO DO FAMILIES IN INDIA,IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY WILL SEND THEIR CHILDREN,BOTH GIRLS AND BOYS TO SCHOOL IN THE HOPES OF GETTNGN A JOB.
THE DECISION OF GIRLS TO NOT WORK IS IN THE END THEIR OWN DECISION.IF THEY CAN DECIDE TO NOT WORK BASED ON SOME HERESAY AND SOE TALKING,THEN I SAY THEY HAVE A HUGE PRIVILEGDE THAT BOYS DONT HAVE.THEY CAN SAY THAT THEY STUDIED AND AWAIT A MAN WITH A GOOD PAYING JOB FOR MARRIAGE.NO ONE IS FORCING THEM TO CHOOSE A SPECIFIC DEGREE OF COURSE EXCEPT MAYBE THERE IS PUSH TO CHOOSE A COURSE PERCIEVED TO BE A JOB PROVIDING ONE INSTEAD OF A USELESS DEGREE.

ONLY MAYBE MULLA FAMILIES AND BPL PEOPLE WILL DECIDE TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN(INCLUDING BOYS) FOR WORK DUE TO LACK OF FUNDS AND CULTURE.

I DONT EVEN SEE ANY SERIOUS PUSH OF PEOPLE IN NOT ALLOWING WOMEN TO WORK ANYWHERE EXCEPT IN EXTREMELY BACKWARD FAMILIES OF MULLAS AND EXTREMELY POOR FAAMILIES.

CAN A MAN SAY THE SAME EXCUSE AND STAY OUT OF WORK.HIS UTILITY AND WORK IS IN HIS EARNING POTENTIAL FOR THE PROSPECTIVE FAMILY - FULL STOP.

SO IF THEY WANT TO WORK THE DOOR IS ALREAADY OPEN TO WOMEN AS LONG AS THEY HAVE LEARNT THE SKILLS IN SCHOOL AND COLLEGE.INDIAN SOCIETY DOES NOT HAVE TO GET BLAME FOR THEIR OWN ADULT DECISIONS OF TURNING DOWN A WORKING LIFE - THIS AINT AFGHANISTAN OR PAKISTAN.

2.ADDING WORKERS INTO AN ECONOMY SHOULD BE BOTH CALCULATED AND ORGANIC.WE DONT JUST NEED A LARGE NO OF GRADUATES AND LEARNERS IN AN ECONOMY THAT DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH JOBS TO ABSORB THE TALENT.IN THAT CASE IT IS JUST WASTE.IT IS ALSO PROBABLE,WOMEN ARE NOT WORKING DUE TO THE PRESSURE OF FINDING A JOB IN THE ABOVE CONDITIONS.

ALSO AND THIS GOES FOR MEN TOO,WE NEED TO SKILL UP PEOPLE IN TARGETTED FIELDS INSTEAD OF JUST TELLING TO STUDY ANYTHING.IF WOMEN ARE TAKING ANY FIELD THEY WANT AND ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH THE SKILLS THE MARKET WANTS,THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO SIT ON THEIR ASSES AND BE UNEMPLOYED ONLY.THAT IS ONLY NATURAL.AGAIN NO ONE FORCED THEM TO CHOOSE THESE MAJORS AND MINORS AND GOD HELP US IF THEY CHOOSE A SJW DEGREE(WHICH THANKFULLY IS NOT A TREND IN INDIA).

3. FEMINISM AND THE WILLINGNESS TO WORK AND PUSHING OF WORK ONTO WOMEN ARE TWO SEPERATE THINGS.

YOU MUST UNDERSTAND MOST WOMEN WOULD CHOOSE TO NOT WORK IF THEY WERE CONVINCED THAT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.A LOT OF WELL TO DO GIRLS I HAVE SEEN WHO ARE EDUCATED ALSO WANT TO JUST SIT DOWN AND LIVE ON THIER HUSBAND INCOME.YOU CANT BLAME THAT ON MEN AND SOCIETY.

4.FINALLY THE INCREASE OF WOMENS LABOUR PARTICIPATION WILL HAPPEN ONLY WHEN JOB GROWTH AND OTHER WELFAARE STATS WILL GROW ORGANICALLY LIKE IMPROVEMENT OF GENERAL EDUCATION.NOT BY FORCING IT.WE CAN CONCENTRAATE ON GENERAL EDUCATION AND SKILLING UP INSTEAAD OF GETTING TOO FRUSTRATED BY NOS OF FEMALE PARTICIPATION.AS IT WILL GROW IN GOOD TIME.

AND REMEMBER,THE GATES OF HEAVEN WONT OPEN WHEN THE MAGIC NO OF WOMEN PARTICIPATION HITS 100%(IF IT EVER CAN),YOU WILL STILL LIVE IN THE NRMAL WORLD EXCEPT THAT CORPORATES WILL HAVE TWICE AS MUCH WAGE SLAVES AND A BETTER REASON TO CUT SALARIES.DONT GET OBSESSED ABOUT 100% PARTICIPATION BECAUSE IN THE END IT IS ABOUT A PAYCHECK.IF THE NO OF PEOPLE ARE MORE AND WAGES ARE DECREASED,THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
Ya'll Nibbiars you are probably right, but in my case I am just shappit. :truestory:
 

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Different approaches. In rural India the concept of income to suppliment the earnings of primary member is often followed.
Say you mainten a backyard poultry. Most of the work like looking after and feeding is done by the ladies of the house.
Their activities aid in the income of the household but still they will be classified as housewife due to lack of permanent job.
So would one count her in the workforce or outside workforce?
Ya'll Nibbiar if you count the Pocket maar in the employment list. And don't take this any other was please. :dude:
 

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on one hand nationalists keep asking for a form of governance that is closer to bhartiya roots, and when you get one you think it is retarded.

for millennia, every region in Bharat has their own unique products. Jodhpuri sandals, channaPatna toys, etc etc.

When Italians say we have Parmesan cheese, it’s wah wah what an excellent product.
When Indians say uppada pattu sarees, retarded idea is it?

you are confusing policy with implementation, both are different aspects.
Let me rephrase it captain.
There are product's in Bihar that has signed up for Global Export tage from GOI.
Example- Bhagalpuri blanket, Litchis of Muzaffarpur, Makhana of Darbhanga.

What do u think happens when Farmers don't get their prices in bad season, massive losses and villap in the Media.
It wouldn't have been the same cases if Gov was just promoting the products with other forms of Industry running in the background. But judging by the gov approach they want these products to be end all be all for the District/Regions. Diverse buisness still being implemented in already established places and other district's getting the Jumla of Indigenous cultural product.
U got to remember the difference is Italy doens't have millions of people in one district alone we have multiple mouth to feed.
If look at the area of Lombardy where parmecean 🧀 originates then U will notice it is the most recognised product but the majority economy is driven be Aerospace, Wine, Automotives and electronics.
 

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Read the article above.

Such Product's can only be unique identifier of the economy of a region but it can't drive it.

Agri product's don't even make upto 10% of the regional economy, it's hundreds of other parallel industry that are together driving it.
 

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The qualification for being IAS, IPS, IFS etc. Is not highest education + experience in relevant field. No. It is simple general knowledge test and some BS interview. Anyone from any field can join. An Arts or social science graduate can crack UPSC and become IAS, afterwards he/she can get appointed to run a major scientific institute. That Arts guy now gives orders to real scientists. While talented people with years of experience are not even qualified because of nonsensical age limits and stupid GK exams which has nothing to do with job profile.

Losers who waste years being unemployed and reading newspapers are rewarded with highest position in our country's bureaucracy. Isn't this sad?
No
 

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