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Please anyone make clear what is the difference btw regular infantry and light infantry in case of indian army ?
 

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Please anyone make clear what is the difference btw regular infantry and light infantry in case of indian army ?
All are same its just the name from Brits time..
 

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Kunal, I have seen that Indian troopers in the videos above, hardly ever use NVGs, why is it so ? Also, Thermal imaging devices can also be very handy to formation moving through dense jungles especially at night. Also, the guy to whom the journalist referred to as the sniper was actually carrying a LMG, not a true sniper rifle like PSG-1 or anything.

I have seen border posts based troops using thermal imaging devices though, but a small unit that is hunting for the terrorists on the move in the jungles needs them even more, don't you think ?
 

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guys which one should india induct-browning 50 cal or dushka?
My wishlist for revamping infantry guys specially for another kargil type conflict


KORD HEAVY MACHINE GUN (12.7mm)



Pecheneg LMG


All this with decent Flak vest, Helmets and NVG :)
Hopefully idiots in the top brass will not send soldiers with the WW2 era Bren machine gun
 

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Pecheneg LMG
The Pecheneg is the new version of the Pulemyot Kalashnikov (PK) LMG.

One funny thing about this machine gun is that the spent cartridge ejection system is on the left, as against the more conventional on the right.

Anyone has any ideas why it is so?
 

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The Pecheneg is the new version of the Pulemyot Kalashnikov (PK) LMG.

One funny thing about this machine gun is that the spent cartridge ejection system is on the left, as against the more conventional on the right.

Anyone has any ideas why it is so?
man is it having disentegratable bullet belt coz PKMs were having ammo belts which were not disentegrable unlike other belt fed MGs?
 
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man is it having disentegratable bullet belt coz PKMs were having ammo belts which were not disentegrable unlike other belt fed MGs?
From the picture, no. The bullet belt is not disintegrable. See the long empty belt hanging on the left side of the receiver. This is a bad design decision, IMHO.
 

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Nothing is old, AT-4 or RPG-29 cannot do the task Carl Gustaf can do, I.e:






1. It can fire smoke
2. It can fire Illumination rounds
3. It can fire Heat Rounds for Anti-tank
4. It can fire HE frag in CT operations

Where Any-other Man Portable RL cannot preform such task with gr8 accuracy as Carl Gustaf 84MM..


Btw, We use Shippon Light Rocket Launcher in SF same as AT-4 and instead of RPG-29 we will be using Javellin ATGM...



Dushka is no longer manufactured in Russia, RFI is issued..

Contenders are from Singapore, US, Russia and others..
the performance of carl gustav in anti-tank role is questionable.it can be used in bunker-busting and against soft armour vehicles but certainly not tanks.but rpg-29 has penetrated challenger,abhrams,merkava tanks and is an ideal replacement for rpg-7 in our inventory.javelin is a man-portable missile and cannot be compared to carl gustav or rpg,at-4cs all of which are rocket propelled and much much cheaper.
 

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From the picture, no. The bullet belt is not disintegrable. See the long empty belt hanging on the left side of the receiver. This is a bad design decision, IMHO.
That won't be a big problem coz romanians or polish forces are using disentratable belts in PKMs and.helicopters of russian forces too had made use of disentagratable ammo belts.the same could be utilised here also if necessary.
 

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the performance of carl gustav in anti-tank role is questionable.it can be used in bunker-busting and against soft armour vehicles but certainly not tanks.but rpg-29 has penetrated challenger,abhrams,merkava tanks and is an ideal replacement for rpg-7 in our inventory.javelin is a man-portable missile and cannot be compared to carl gustav or rpg,at-4cs all of which are rocket propelled and much much cheaper.
shiv i dont know nothing about rpg29s performance against mercava or challenger but i can assure that it is not at all effective against abrams coz in iraq 7 rpg 29 round were hit in an abrams and all the crew were escaped without any injury.so from thing we can assume that it is not an effective modern tank destroyer.Yes it will be a huge hit if supplied RPG 7S among RR and paramilitary coz they are lighter than CGRLs.
 

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How ?, As far we know it done the job well, It depends where you hit..
This 84 mm Heat warhead won't be able to penetrate the armour of a second generation tank, let alone a modern MBT. Carl Gustav is good for bunkers and sangars but it is a big no against any modern MBT.

NLAW or RPG-29/32 are better options.
 

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That won't be a big problem coz romanians or polish forces are using disentratable belts in PKMs and.helicopters of russian forces too had made use of disentagratable ammo belts.the same could be utilised here also if necessary.
Bleeding elbow, anyone?

Left hand side ejection is bad. Also, standard PKMs and the Pecheneg do not have belt disintegration. Perhaps those that do are modifications.

Reliability wise, these are amazing weapons.

Check 2:55 onwards:

 
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This 84 mm Heat warhead won't be able to penetrate the armour of a second generation tank, let alone a modern MBT. Carl Gustav is good for bunkers and sangars but it is a big no against any modern MBT.

NLAW or RPG-29/32 are better options.
Turret ring, Tracks, Gun mantle, Engine compartment, many other are the one men are trained to shoot ONLY..

Some specs on the round..




84 mm HEAT 651 is a newer HEAT round using mid-flight rocket assistance for ranges up to 1,000m, it includes a stand-off probe for the fuse to improve performance against reactive armour.



 
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