Indian army order Kalyani M 4 armoured vechile

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Poor country janab.
Atleast they will get something better now compared to that once "iconic" Mahindra jeep Army and polis seems to use.
Americans have 2,60,000 Humvees! Thats why they are able to maintain the fight wherever they go. We may say America lost in Afghanistan but its not true, imagine being fighting for 20 years at a place geographically 180 degrres opposite to USA, where there are jihadis ready for suicide attacks etc. Their total casualties are around 2800 deaths. Or 140 a year or only 1-2 every day in such a difficult environment. If we use Humvee like vehicles in Kashmir, we can save our soldiers from majority of ambush attacks.
 

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Americans have 2,60,000 Humvees! Thats why they are able to maintain the fight wherever they go. We may say America lost in Afghanistan but its not true, imagine being fighting for 20 years at a place geographically 180 degrres opposite to USA, where there are jihadis ready for suicide attacks etc. Their total casualties are around 2800 deaths. Or 140 a year or only 1-2 every day in such a difficult environment. If we use Humvee like vehicles in Kashmir, we can save our soldiers from majority of ambush attacks.
We are not Umreeka with $700 billion or whatever of defence budget.
Sorry to say this but we have 1 billion people, live of soldier is sadly cheaper than spending money to ensure their protection.
btw I doubt Humvee can provide protection from IED, maybe it s good for protection from small arms fire.
Then again I am not knowledgable in this field
 

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We are not Umreeka with $700 billion or whatever of defence budget.
Sorry to say this but we have 1 billion people, live of soldier is sadly cheaper than spending money to ensure their protection.
btw I doubt Humvee can provide protection from IED, maybe it s good for protection from small arms fire.
Then again I am not knowledgable in this field
Humvee is a 1983 vehicle. Tata, Mahindra and Ashok Leyland's LSV are new vehicles. US suffered casualties in Humvee's due to IED blast. Now they are going for Oskosh JLTV.
 

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We are not Umreeka with $700 billion or whatever of defence budget.
Sorry to say this but we have 1 billion people, live of soldier is sadly cheaper than spending money to ensure their protection.
btw I doubt Humvee can provide protection from IED, maybe it s good for protection from small arms fire.
Then again I am not knowledgable in this field
IED is a different thing, but major problem is always Small Arms fire, Population density of Afghanistan is not too high hence much of their land is barren and not used. This gives Taliban an upper hand to plant IEDs, while in Kashmir much of the area is habitated and there are adequate security forces and surveillance systems installed. IED attacks are no issue, grenade attacks can be stopped by Humvees whether hand genade or impact grenades.
 

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Humvee is a 1983 vehicle. Tata, Mahindra and Ashok Leyland's LSV are new vehicles. US suffered casualties in Humvee's due to IED blast. Now they are going for Oskosh JLV.
Afghanistan is full of IEDs, Humvees are great against infantry ops but not proxy warfare as the warfare is unconventional. Small arms are a great threat to a soldier than an IED in an open area.
 

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IED is a different thing, but major problem is always Small Arms fire, Population density of Afghanistan is not too high hence much of their land is barren and not used. This gives Taliban an upper hand to plant IEDs, while in Kashmir much of the area is habitated and there are adequate security forces and surveillance systems installed. IED attacks are no issue, grenade attacks can be stopped by Humvees whether hand genade or impact grenades.
 

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Americans have 2,60,000 Humvees! Thats why they are able to maintain the fight wherever they go. We may say America lost in Afghanistan but its not true, imagine being fighting for 20 years at a place geographically 180 degrres opposite to USA, where there are jihadis ready for suicide attacks etc. Their total casualties are around 2800 deaths. Or 140 a year or only 1-2 every day in such a difficult environment. If we use Humvee like vehicles in Kashmir, we can save our soldiers from majority of ambush attacks.
260000 humveees..πŸ˜‚
 

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Humvee is the class of LSV only. Iit provides small caliber protection only. No IED protection from side or under belly. Gross weight is just less than 4 tons.

It had a very good production run starting from 1983, with over 2.8L built. However, its vulnerabilities were exposed when IED hit US patrols in iraq and afghanisthan.

US is replacing it with Oshkosh JLTV to adress some issues.
 

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These armoured vehicles are pretty much going to be a necessity atleast at the LAC.
The Tata LAMV looks like an absolute beast and not to mention it would be significantly cheaper than the Kalyani M4.
Tata LAMV should be the ideal choice for the light armoured strike brigade.(Nos: 1000)
Kalyani M4 for the medium armoured strike brigade.(Nos: 400)
Tata WhAP/Kestrel for the heavy armoured strike brigade.(Nos: 200-300).
 

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