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Can someone explain the location of the ribbons and other items? Some are wearing on the left chest, while others are on the right chest.
 

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It is a very good initiative taken by some DODOs.

All battalions of Ladakh Scouts should be given these camels in adequate numbers. Ladakh Scouts can be restructured a little to have Camel platoons with each Company. Let us have Ladakh Risala based on Bactrian Camels to outflank light tanks...
 

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The BPET is a series of physical tests that are meant to test the physical fitness of an officer or a jawan to perform military tasks. For women officers, this includes a five-km run, a 60-metre sprint, climbing vertical rope up to a certain height, traversing horizontal rope up to a certain distance and jumping 6-feet ditch.
Can anyone confirm if the pass criteria of BPET has been diluted for female candidates or it remains same as that for male candidates ?
 

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It is a very good initiative taken by some DODOs.

All battalions of Ladakh Scouts should be given these camels in adequate numbers. Ladakh Scouts can be restructured a little to have Camel platoons with each Company. Let us have Ladakh Risala based on Bactrian Camels to outflank light tanks...
They first have to get these camels to breed lmao. Endangered species.
 

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It is a very good initiative taken by some DODOs.

All battalions of Ladakh Scouts should be given these camels in adequate numbers. Ladakh Scouts can be restructured a little to have Camel platoons with each Company. Let us have Ladakh Risala based on Bactrian Camels to outflank light tanks...
Bhadra agrees with DODO on this one..
Tears of Joy ....

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Amid Escalating Sino-Indian Border Tension, Indian Army Seeks ICVs with Night Vision
September 9, 2020 Editor Indian Army

BMP-2 Infantry Combat Vehicle Sarath - Indian Army

New Delhi: As the border tension with China continues, Indian Army has sought upgrade of its ageing BMP-2/2K infantry combat vehicles (ICVs) with better fire power as well as night-fighting capabilities.

The ageing Russian-origin BMP vehicles, which have anti-tank missiles, cannons and machine guns but suffer from night-blindness, have also been deployed along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh to counter the build-up by the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA).

The PLA, in fact, has pumped in additional forces after Indian soldiers pro-actively occupied multiple tactical heights in the Chushul sector and then consolidated their positions on August 29-30.

In an initial tender issued on September 4 to upgrade the BMP-2s, the Army said: “The terrain along our borders lends itself to conduct of large-scale mechanised operations and the belligerence of our adversaries on the borders necessitate that our capabilities are adequately built up to match the threat.”

“Battlefield illumination does not limit itself to specific ammunition but also to have inherent night-fighting capability existing in each weapon system. The present equipment of the Mechanised Infantry (BMP-2/2K) was inducted into service in 1985. The armament system is night blind as on date and needs to be upgraded with modern sights, thereby fulfilling a critical operational void,” it added.

Seeking a response by mid-October, Indian Army said that the upgrade package must include a third-generation thermal imager-based gunner sight, third-generation thermal imager-based panoramic commander sight and a modern fire control system, among other things.
 

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Where Xi Jinping Faulted in Ladakh

Indian occupation of dominating heights south of Pangong Tso right up to Chushul heights and onwards covering the Spanggur Gap foiling Chinese intruding columns stumped Beijing and this is one of major plans of Xi where he faulted.

September 15, 2020 Editor Opinion
Lt. Gen Prakash Chand Katoch (Retd)



In 1999, Pakistan surprised India completely with massive intrusions in Kargil using its Special Services Group (SSG), five to seven Northern Light Infantry battalions and Pakistan-based terrorists disguised as Kashmiri militants. Pakistani infiltration beginning February 1999 set up some 132 vantage points across the Line of Control (LOC) in the heights of lower Mushkoh Valley, along the Marpo La ridgeline in Dras, in Kaksar near Kargil and in the Batalik sector east of the Indus River in the heights of Chorbatla where the LOC turns North into the Turtok sector south of Shyok River in Siachen area.

While Indian intelligence slept, Tashi Namgyal, a grazier from Village Gharkon near Batalik town first sighted the infiltrators on May 3, 1999 reported it to the Army. However, the extent of the infiltration and number of infiltrators was still not known. Then on May 15, 1999 a patrol led by Captain Saurabh Kalia out to patrol the area of Bajrang Post was ambushed by the enemy. Kalia’s patrol ran out of ammunition in the crossfire and was captured by Pakistani troops. This led to the launch of Operation ‘Vijay’ by India that eventually routed all the infiltrators.

Pakistani army chief Pervez Musharraf who had planned the operation miscalculated the resilience of the Indian soldiers and capacity to capture Pakistanis-held dominating heights in high altitude devoid of vegetation and cover under intense shelling. The other blunder was opening fire on Captain Kalia’s patrol.

Had the Pakistanis lain doggo without revealing their intentions, India would have discovered the extent of infiltration that much late, taking the eviction closer towards the next winter. On the Indian side, other than intelligence failure was the belief that such infiltration was not possible during winter months though we were in occupation of the Saltoro Range in Siachen Glacier area since 1984.



China enacted Kargil in Ladakh during May. Indian intelligence slept even while major induction of PLA in Aksai Chin and a new road was built four kilometers short of Galwan. There was no grazier to warm the army this time, as had been the case in Kargil. Chinese intrusions in area of Pangong Tso, Gogra/Hot Spring and Galwan came as a surprise and so did in Depsang few days later. The current situation in the area is known to the readers with India having occupied important dominating heights south of Pangong Tso that are making China uncomfortable since our troops overlook some Chinese positions and avenues for more PLA intrusions are blocked. In other areas of eastern Ladakh, heavy Indian deployment precludes further PLA ingress even as talks are ongoing.

Many reasons may be attributed to the latest PLA attacks in Eastern Ladakh and mobilisation along entire length of LAC, which include formation of Union Territory of Ladakh by India; perception of India aligned with US against China; border area infrastructure development by India particularly the Darbuk-Shyok-Daulat Beg Oldi Road and Indian opposition to CPEC among others.

The entire PLA operation was planned by President Xi Jinping himself who is Commander-in-Chief of PLA and has assumed full control of all police and para-military forces as well. Immediately after becoming President in 2013, he had ordered PLA intrusion in Depsang which was some 19 km deep across the Line of Actual Control (LAC), where PLA remained for three week before withdrawing after India dismantled its surveillance structures in Chumar 400 km south of Depsang as demanded by China.

Many reasons are attributed to the current PLA attacks in Eastern Ladakh and mobilisation along entire length of LAC, like: formation of Union Territory of Ladakh by India; perception of India aligned with US against China; border area infrastructure development by India particularly the Darbuk-Shyok-Daulat Beg Oldi Road; Indian opposition to China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC); destabilising India; taxing Indian economy with additional defence expenditure while fighting the pandemic; forces India to accept Chinese supremacy in Asia, and; teaching India a lesson. According to intelligence sources, China was to launch the operation last year during winter months but was delayed because of the pandemic. The invasion had been rehearsed on a life-sized land model inside China during 2014, as has been revealed by an Australian scholar showing satellite imagery of the training area.

Xi reportedly personally briefed General Zhao Zongqi, commander of PLA’s Western Theatre Command for the current operation; both going over minutest details including how to attack and brutalise Indian troops using specially trained troops in Galwan with iron rods, clubs with steel spikes, machetes with barbed wire, swords and stones. Zongqi is Xi Jinping’s blue-eyed having occupied Doklam Plateau in Bhutan after the India-China standoff was called off in 2017.


For long China has dreamed of joining hands with Pakistan along the Shyok River in Ladakh, taking all territory north of it including the Siachen Glacier. Capture of water resources is a major aim of China with an eye on the future. That is why China asked Pakistan to handover Shaksgam (in Pakistan occupied Kashmir) and is eyeing complete control of Pangong Tso and annex Siachen Glacier.

Capture of water resources is a major aim of China with an eye on the future. That is why China asked Pakistan to handover Shaksgam (in Pakistan occupied Kashmir) and is eyeing complete control of Pangong Tso and annex Siachen Glacier.

Xi Jinping had timed the operation very well. India had been hit by Xi’s biological bomb (China Virus), summer exercises in Ladakh were cancelled because of the lockdown and rail movement restricted for the same reasons affecting mobilisation. Xi had already lulled India into complacency showing no intention he would attack us. This then was the setting when Xi struck. But when one is drunk with power and ready to take on the entire world, miscalculations are bound to happen and no one dare to correct the Supremo – witness five ministers executed in North Korea for questioning Kim Jong-un.

Where Xi Jinping went wrong can be summarized as under:

• Grossly miscalculated the grit and fighting spirit of Indian soldiers who inflicted much more casualties on the PLA without firing weapons even after surprise attacks in Galwan.
• The intention possibly was to attract attention to areas like Pangong Tso, Gogra/Hot Springs and Galwan with thrust coming to DBO. That is why the intrusion in Depsang came at a later date but by then India had moved considerable forces including tanks with supporting artillery, air defence and IAF resources to block further enemy advance.
• Indian occupation of dominating heights south of Pangong Tso right up to Chushul heights and onwards covering the Spanggur Gap foiling Chinese intruding columns stumped Beijing. Having inducted two mechanised divisions plus into eastern Ladakh, Zongqi could have easily diverted two brigades to attempt occupying these very heights in May itself, occupation of which would have placed India in a perilous position. Xi and Zongqi perhaps planned this for a later phase, if at all, but never expected India to take such an initiative.


The intention possibly was to attract attention to areas like Pangong Tso, Gogra/Hot Springs and Galwan with thrust coming to DBO. That is why the intrusion in Depsang came at a later date but by then India had moved considerable forces

What happens next? Despite all the talks, Xi needs to divert attention from problems at home, test PLA in battle and show a big victory. Winter is no problem for Indian troops who are battle hardened in very high altitudes, which is not the case with PLA. No matter what technology is employed, the soldier on ground matters at those heights.

What action Xi takes is difficult to gauge but despite pretenses gloves are off. He could make a thrust towards DBO testing all his latest weaponry but that could cause heavy casualties on both sides with possibility of international conflict with sparks in western pacific and mainland China targeted. Alternatively, he could attack along both banks of Pangong Tso but unlikely making headway. Another option is to keep applying pressure in Ladakh while opening another front elsewhere.

The bottom line is that Xi Jinping wants to show a worthwhile victory to the world whereas India needs to break the false aura of the PLA. We can definitely do this.
 

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Fresh Chinese Moves in Ladakh

The number of PLA battalions deployed in Ladakh has gone up from 35 in August to 50 in September. Tensions are high as opposing troops are eyeball to eyeball in certain locations and there have been incidents of shots being fired in the air. Chances of hostilities breaking out are therefore a real possibility.



INDIAN DEFENCE MINISTER RAJNATH SINGH IN A MEETING WITH HIS CHINESE COUNTERPART GENERAL WEI FENGHE ON THE SIDELINES OF THE JOINT MEETING OF THE HEADS OF DEFENCE MINISTERS OF SHANGHAI COOPERATION ORGANISATION (SCO), IN MOSCOW ON SEPTEMBER 4, 2020.

The news up to now was that China had inducted two Divisions plus strength (totalling about 40,000) in Eastern Ladakh during April and following its intrusions across the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in May, India also built up their own deployment to about two Divisions strength, facing the Peoples Liberation Army (PLA). Beginning August 29-30, Indian troops occupied the ridgeline south of Pangong Tso Lake, heights in Chushul Sector and the Kailash Range and beyond covering the Spanggur Gap in the nick of time, beating PLA patrols out to occupy some of the dominating features. Tensions are high in areas south of Pangong Tso and there have been incidents of shots being fired in the air as well due to attempted PLA incursion.

But recent inputs indicate that China has brought forward more troops taking total PLA deployment to approximately 52,000, of which about 10,000 troops have been deployed on the southern side of the Pangong Tso. The number of PLA battalions deployed in Ladakh as per one assessment has gone up from 35 in August to 50 in September – addition of 15 battalions. PLA too has occupied additional features south of Pangong Tso and opposing troops are eyeball to eyeball in certain locations. PLA attempts to intrude have been repeatedly foiled by our troops. China obviously wanted to capture whole of Pangong Tso, this being the shortest approach to Leh but faulted in not securing south bank of Pangong Tso using the surprise in May-June while making intrusions in other areas north of Pangong Tso, Gogra-Hot Springs, Galwan and Y-Junction in Depsang. Despite the Defence Ministers of India and China having bilateral discussion in Moscow on the sidelines of the Shanghai Corporation Organization (SCO), followed by a similar bilateral discussion between the two Foreign Ministers at the same venue, China shows no inclination for easing tensions and withdrawing. The five point agreement reached at Moscow between the two foreign ministers is nothing more than reiteration of earlier agreements that China has repeatedly violated.


PANGONG TSO REMAINS AS ONE OF THE MAJOR AREAS OF POSSIBLE CONFLICT WITH INDIAN AND CHINESE FORCES FIRMLY DEPLOYED OPPOSITE EACH OTHER ON BOTH SHORES OF THE LAKE.

PLA is consolidating its deployments, constructing new defences and even laying cables for communications. In some places PLA is resorting to propaganda through loudspeakers harping on poor conditions and food supplies to our troops, blaming Prime Minister Narendra Modi for the state of affairs, at times also playing Punjabi songs. Next PLA may put up large screens and showcase Chinese cabaret girls or pole dancers. Simultaneously the Chinese media continues with hate narratives, threatening war and saying India can never win against China. China also abducted five youth from Upper Subansiri District of Arunachal Pradesh and returned them only after India raised the issue officially. Togley Singkam, aged 21, one of the abducted youth, told media how he was abducted by PLA troops who had come across the LAC and tortured in captivity for 15 days. India has accused China of violating agreements and carrying out aggressive maneuvers to change the status quo on ground. Speaking in the Lok Sabha on September 15, Defence Minister Rajnath Singh too reiterated this. However, China puts the onus of disengagement on India. Talks are to continue at military, diplomatic and political levels but there is little hope of any worthwhile progress given the fact that PLA has time and again resorted to hostile actions while talks were ongoing and even when message from China on the hotline was for disengagement.

The present situation is that PLA is not allowing movement of our troops east of Finger 4 north of Pangong Tso while PLA presence continues on upper reaches of Finger 4. South of Pangong Tso, both sides are occupying heights overlooking each other’s camps and road communications. China now claims entire Galwan Valley and PLA deployment at Y-Junction in Depsang some 20 km deep do not permit ITBP patrols going to Patrol Point (PP) 10, 11, 11A, 12 and 13. PLA has increased deployments opposite Uttarakhand, Himachal Pradesh, three areas in Arunachal Pradesh and even opposite Bhutan. Chances of hostilities breaking out are therefore a real possibility. President Xi Jinping’s problems at home are increasing and he can resort to limited war to divert attention. India so far has not crossed the LAC and undertaken no quid pro quo even in areas other than Ladakh. Therefore, the initiative remains with the PLA. Logistics problems to maintain troops in Ladakh will increase once the Manali-Leh road closes for winter (mid-November to mid-May if not more) and limited air landings at Leh airfield due to inclement weather. The pressure on air maintenance is going to be colossal to include winter requirements of the civil population which too are huge. The additional troops deployed in the area need defences with overhead protection, which require defence stores.


PANGONG TSO LAKE

Our policy makers need to examine overall requirement and augment IAF resources with commercial cargo aircraft as required. Targets for stocking will need to be met well in advance not only catering for inclement weather but also disruption due to possible enemy action in case hostilities break out, both in air and targeting the runway on Leh airfield, which in turn will require pre-positioning of runway repair resources. China has deliberately violated all the confidence-building agreements and the LAC until now on the pretext that the LAC is not delineated on the map. Some opine that delineation of LAC is a possible solution, which is naïve. China respects no LAC or border. If we have not grasped this after China overnight enlarged its illegal claim to entire 90,000 sq km of Arunachal Pradesh, the fault is ours. China has been at war with us since it annexed Tibet and since the 1962 invasion. There would be no bigger fools than us if we do not recognise it even now, We are in for a “perpetual haul” rather than calling it a “long haul” as if it would finally end, which it will not till China is balkanized. Until then China is will continue with hostilities albeit there could be tactical pauses to lull us into false hopes.
 

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India-China Foreign Ministers Meet – sweet nothings
by Prakash Katoch

The face to face meeting between External Affairs Minister S. Jai Shankar and his Chinese counterpart took place in Moscow on the sidelines of the Shanghai Corporation Organization (SCO) summit on September 10. This was their first face to face meeting since the Chinese aggression in Ladakh in May 2020 though they had talked earlier through video conferencing and also participated in the BRICS summit similarly. Their over two-hour bilateral meeting between in Moscow which is being bandied a “major breakthrough” by some TV channels, resulted in following consensus.

  • Both sides should take guidance from the series of consensus of the leaders on developing India-China relations, including not allowing differences to become disputes.
  • The current situation in the border areas is not in the interest of either side. Therefore that the border troops of both sides should continue their dialogue, quickly disengage, maintain proper distance and ease tensions.
  • Both sides shall abide by all the existing agreements and protocol on China-India boundary affairs, maintain peace and tranquility in the border areas and avoid any action that could escalate matters.
  • Continue to have dialogue and communication through the Special Representative mechanism on the India-China boundary question and the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on India-China border affairs (WMCC), should also continue its meetings.
  • As the situation eases, both sides should expedite work to conclude new Confidence Building Measures to maintain and enhance peace and tranquility in the border areas.
The statement issued by the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) reads that “both Ministers had a frank and constructive discussion on the developments in the India-China border areas as well as on India-China relations”. The “constructive” part is the usual diplomatic jargon whereas there is little that was achieved, as was perceived before the meeting. For Jaishankar it was just another count in meeting his counterpart in person. For Wang Yi, the squint-eyed ‘silver fox’, he possibly hoped India can be tricked yet again, providing another opportunity for backstabbing.

China indulged in attacking our troops in Galwan on June 15-16 while Corps Commander-level meetings were on. Again, while talking of disengagement on the hotline, China attempted yet another intrusion on the same night south of Pangong Tso lake. The height of Beijing’s lies are reflected by the Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying when she stated on September 1, 2020, “Seventy-odd years since the founding of new China, China never provoked any war or conflict and never occupied an inch of other country’s territory. China border troops always strictly abide by the LAC and never crossed the line.” China may defend that statement by saying they are not interested in “an inch” of any country, their focus only being in hundreds of square kilometers.

China has repeatedly proved that any agreement is like toilet paper for Beijing and mechanism and confidence measures are means to lull India into complacency. The repeated talk of disengagement including this time between the two foreign ministers is meaningless since China continues to brand India the aggressor and insists that PLA is deployed in Chinese territory. Apparently the important Indian demand for PLA to revert to April 2020 positions was not even discussed. Jaishankar probably did not raise the issue thinking Wang Yi will not agree to it. But scripting it part of the discussion and in the MEA statement would have made all the difference. Isn’t that what diplomacy is all about? As of now the bilateral meeting has achieved sweet nothings.

The ball is now in China’s court. President Xi Jinping, Commander-in-Chief of PLA, police and all para-military forces appears frustrated with Indian troops occupying dominating heights hitherto unoccupied within Indian Territory. The fact that Indians are looking down the PLA garrison at Moldo and are dominating avenues for Chinese intrusions in these areas is upsetting Beijing. Repeated attempts at intrusions, their failure and the incident of warning shots being fired are all proof of this. If China wants to dislodge Indian troops from these heights, it will have to risk limited conflict. That decision rests with Xi Jinping whose brain scan is under heavy security.

 

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Do we really need this, at this juncture!!!

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Do we really need this, at this juncture!!!

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Psyops anybody. That's deep penetration. Realisation reinforced.
 

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Army asks private firms to meet its ammunition requirements for next 10 years
The Army has asked private industries to meet the annual requirement for different types of ammunition, including rifle bullets and artillery rockets, for the next 10 years. The move, however, comes with a rider that interested manufacturers will not receive any financial support for their venture.

In a series of requests for information (RFI) issued on Tuesday, the Master General of Ordnance’s Branch at Army Headquarters has sought to identify prospective manufacturers for participating in the indigenous manufacture of ammunition.

The types of ammunition to be manufactured include rockets for the 300mm SMERCH and 122 mm BM21 systems, 90 mm shoulder-fired rocket launcher, 155 mm, 40 mm and 20 mm rounds for artillery and air defence guns as well as 7.62 mm and 9 mm rounds for different rifles and carbine.


The annual requirement projected to be sourced from the private sector varies from a few dozen rounds for systems like SMERCH rockets to about 70 lakh 7.62 mm bullets.

While inviting private firms for manufacturing ammunition, the Army has also made it clear that the government will neither provide any special concessions nor any funding or investment to facilitate setting up requisite infrastructure by participating firms.

The manufacturers will also be responsible to obtain necessary clearances under the Arms Act from the Ministry of Home Affairs, manufacturing licenses from the Department of Industrial Policy and Promotion as well as any other permissions necessary for the manufacture of ammunition in India.

Each type of ammunition has various variants or type of warhead to be used for different purposes. The Russian-origin SMERCH rockets, for example, can be equipped with cluster warhead, fuel-air explosive warhead and a high explosive fragmentation warhead. Similarly, the 7.62 mm rounds are for use in assault rifles and different types of sniper rifles.

The army has approached the private industry earlier for indigenous manufacture of ammunition. While some private manufacturers are supplying certain types of ammunition, the bulk of the indigenous supply comes from the state-run Ordnance Factory Board. A large quantity, especially that of critical and specialized ammunition, continue to be imported.

The shift towards the private industry to meet defence requirements is part of the government’s efforts to facilitate the development of indigenous capacity, reduce import dependence and with the long-term objective of building capacity within the industry as a robust alternative source of ammunition. The government has approved manufacturing of eight selected ammunition for Indian Army by the Indian Industry.

In 2017, the government had initially identified eight types of ammunition that could be produced by the private sector. The armed forces are also identifying weapons and equipment that will be placed on the ‘negative list’ to curtail their imports and switch their procurement to indigenous sources. Later, the government also allowed domestic private companies to tie up with foreign firms that had been banned for corrupt practices to manufacture ammunition.
 

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In a first for private sector, Defence Ministry places order for 10 lakh hand grenades

In a first for the private sector in India, the defence ministry has placed orders on the industry for the supply of ten lakh hand grenades to replace a vintage design in service with the forces, marking a major change from the past where similar products were either imported or made by the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB). The contract for supply of the modern hand grenades, to be spread over a period of two years, was signed on Thursday with Economic Explosive Limited (EEL) and is valued at over Rs 400 crore. The new grenades – called multi mode hand grenades (MMHG) – have been designed by the Terminal Ballistics Research Laboratory of DRDO and is completely made in India. The contract marks the first time that a privately owned company will supply the armed forces a completely built ammunition, reducing single source dependency of the OFB. Sources said that the costing of the grenades is also lesser than comparative production costs by OFB. These new grenades will be supplied to the army and air force to replace Grenade No 36 – a World War II vintage design – that is currently in service. The MMGH can be used in fragmentation and stun modes and has a proven accurate delay time and high usage reliability. DRDO had transferred technology to manufacture the grenades to the private company in 2016, following which extensive trials were carried out by the army in all weather conditions. These included trails in the deserts, high altitude areas as well as plains. “The MMHG case showcases how private-public partnership can deliver results very successfully for the vital defence sector in just a few years. It is for the first time in India that a privately owned company would be getting to supply an order for complete ammunition,” a senior EEL executive said. With the technology proven, the defence ministry fast tracked the acquisition case in just over a year, marking a speedy internal decision making process for a fully indigenous system. While there is a significant domestic demand for the MMHG, with India looking at becoming an export destination, the order could open up the international market for EEL as well. EEL is part of the Solar Group, which has set up a 2,000 acre facility for manufacturing ammunition and high energy materials in Nagpur – the biggest such project undertaken by the private sector.
 

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