Indian Army Considering to buy HIMARS MLRS for Ladakh region against China

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  • initial order for 220 upgraded M57E1.[58][57] The program is slated to end in 2024 with the introduction of the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM), which will replace the ATACMS missiles in the US arsenal.
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Main article: Precision Strike Missile
The Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) is a new series of GPS-guided missiles, which will begin to replace ATACMS missiles in 2024. PrSM carries a newly designed area-effects warhead and has a range of 60–499 km (37–310 mi). PrSM missiles can be launched from the M270A2 and the HIMARS, with rockets pods containing 2 missiles. As of 2022 the PrSM is in low-rate initial production with 110 missiles being delivered to the US military over the year. PrSM will enter operational service in 2023.[72][58][73]
 

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New rockets in HIMARS can hit targets over 500 km giving edge to indian army in Ladakh region against china face off
 

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And what use would be in the mountains? In the peak and trough of the valleys? The range doesn’t matter at the battlefield. If we need bigger range we have thousands of Brahmos sitting around in the meantime. We shouldn’t start topics based on YouTube videos and wish list.
 

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The range needs to be boosted up to 300 kms and have separate varriants for up to 500 kms and even up to 1000 kms.

India needs to develop its separate 2nd Strategic Rocket Force.
Upto 90km Pinaka Guided
Upto 150km Pinaka 2 (300mm)
Upto 250km Prahaar
Upto 500km Pralay
Upto 750km Shaurya (upgraded with higher burn rate propellant?)
And then we should have Cruise Missiles with 1000+ km range (ITCM and DSCM), along with BrahMos and MRPKS.

All this in Artillery Divisions is what our equivalent of the PLARF should look like.

And what use would be in the mountains? In the peak and trough of the valleys? The range doesn’t matter at the battlefield. If we need bigger range we have thousands of Brahmos sitting around in the meantime. We shouldn’t start topics based on YouTube videos and wish list.
Which is why Indian Army is looking at MRPKS to hit enemy targets in defilade behind the ridgelines, on reverse slopes.

The US can only sell a version with a range of less than 300km
Good morning kake, India is member of MTCR, now cope. Not that we would buy it even if they sold to us.
 

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Upto 90km Pinaka Guided
Upto 150km Pinaka 2 (300mm)
Upto 250km Prahaar
Upto 500km Pralay
Upto 750km Shaurya (upgraded with higher burn rate propellant?)
And then we should have Cruise Missiles with 1000+ km range (ITCM and DSCM), along with BrahMos and MRPKS.

All this in Artillery Divisions is what our equivalent of the PLARF should look like.


Which is why Indian Army is looking at MRPKS to hit enemy targets in defilade behind the ridgelines, on reverse slopes.


Good morning kake, India is member of MTCR, now cope. Not that we would buy it even if they sold to us.
Great. Now we have to mass produce them and put them in the hands of the IA and 2nd strategic rocket force.
 

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And what use would be in the mountains? In the peak and trough of the valleys? The range doesn’t matter at the battlefield. If we need bigger range we have thousands of Brahmos sitting around in the meantime. We shouldn’t start topics based on YouTube videos and wish list.
we need to hit their main bases and logistic nodes. For reverse slopes and etc that’s for artillery and drones. And if need be we can design detachable warheads that can reverse glide back to the reverse slope from such rockets.
 

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There is a news that India is considering to get us made HIMARS system after their succesfull run against russia

What is the source of your information? Especially the part where you claim India is considering to get us made HIMARS system.

Lot of things you claimed are factually incorrect.
  • Weight - Both system has more or less similar weigh hence transport should not be an issue for either. The problem is current with Indian infrastructure, moving BM-21 is much easier hence DRDO is developing/testing ERR 122. HIMARS will face same transport issue as Pinaka.
Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launcher -> 15,000 kg to 17,500 kg​
M142 HIMARS -> 16,000 kg to 17,500 kg​
  • Reloading Mechanism - HIMARS have an advantage here due to built in reloading mechanism and missile pods. Pinaka will need separately loader vehicle. You missed this point completely. This gives advantages to HIMARS.
  • Range - HIMARS have a range of 92km to 150km depending on rocket. Pinaka has range of 37.5-90km depending on rocket while 120km range rocket is in development
  • Guidance - Mil grade HIMARS while Pinaka uses unguided and mil grade GPS/NavIC
  • Accuracy - HIMARS have demonstrated a accuracy of 1-2 meters. Pinaka have demonstrated accuracy of ≤ 1.5% range for unguided rockets, ≤ 60m for guided rockets and <30m for guided rockets with TCS. HIMARS have advantage here.
  • Operating high altitude increases the range of weapons following balletic trajectory due to rarefied atmospheric resistance
  • Rockets just don't hit mountain peaks when fired at high altitude unless the trajectory plotted/planned is incorrect or their is failure in the rocket. Ballistics is a science and doesn't change on whims.
If you use this information give proper credit to all sources and don't use this as free content material.
 

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The range needs to be boosted up to 300 kms and have separate varriants for up to 500 kms and even up to 1000 kms.

India needs to develop its separate 2nd Strategic Rocket Force.
We have such missile. It is called Pralay (150-500km) and Shaurya (700-1900km) missile.
We wouldn't use Shaurya missile as it can field nuclear warhead and might give false positive to enemy regarding nuclear strike.
 

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What is the source of your information? Especially the part where you claim India is considering to get us made HIMARS system.

Lot of things you claimed are factually incorrect.
  • Weight - Both system has more or less similar weigh hence transport should not be an issue for either. The problem is current with Indian infrastructure, moving BM-21 is much easier hence DRDO is developing/testing ERR 122. HIMARS will face same transport issue as Pinaka.
Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launcher -> 15,000 kg to 17,500 kg​
M142 HIMARS -> 16,000 kg to 17,500 kg​
  • Reloading Mechanism - HIMARS have an advantage here due to built in reloading mechanism and missile pods. Pinaka will need separately loader vehicle. You missed this point completely. This gives advantages to HIMARS.
  • Range - HIMARS have a range of 92km to 150km depending on rocket. Pinaka has range of 37.5-90km depending on rocket while 120km range rocket is in development
  • Guidance - Mil grade HIMARS while Pinaka uses unguided and mil grade GPS/NavIC
  • Accuracy - HIMARS have demonstrated a accuracy of 1-2 meters. Pinaka have demonstrated accuracy of ≤ 1.5% range for unguided rockets, ≤ 60m for guided rockets and <30m for guided rockets with TCS. HIMARS have advantage here.
  • Operating high altitude increases the range of weapons following balletic trajectory due to rarefied atmospheric resistance
  • Rockets just don't hit mountain peaks when fired at high altitude unless the trajectory plotted/planned is incorrect or their is failure in the rocket. Ballistics is a science and doesn't change on whims.
If you use this information give proper credit to all sources and don't use this as free content material.
There is no issue with weight difference between Pinaka and Grad. Pinaka is slightly heavier, but not enough to be a problem for bridges. This is not an issue. DRDO developed 122mm ER rocket because Grad will serve for a while because their replacement by Pinaka will take a while.

120km range Pinaka is not going to fit in our current launcher. 120 km range Pinaka 2 would be a 300mm MLRS.

Pinaka also has two pods and each pod holds four guided rockets or six unguided rockets. Compared with just six rockets in a single pod in HIMARS. So Pinaka packs more rockets on its launcher.
 
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