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IAF Chief Briefing

We have placed our trust in indigenous light combat aircraft. In the next five years, we will see induction of 83 LCA Mk1A: IAF Chief

We have put our faith in indigenous 5th generation aircraft AMCA. It will be our mainstay after a decade: IAF chief

Recent standoff with China are an indication of our capabilities today. Our airlift capabilities supporting the Indian Army at a pace that the adversary did not expect: IAF Chief RKS Bhadauria

IAF chief says the force is looking at directed energy weapons and swarm drone systems in future.

In October end or early November, we will get in 3-4 #Rafale. This will be a regular affair: IAF chief

Ladakh is a small area and is a small part of our deployment. We have deployed all across. Be rest assured that we are placed strongly. Of course we are. There is no question of not taking on the threat of China. We will: IAF chief

We realised what PLA was doing in May and acted swiftly. To say that we were surprised is not correct. They normally do exercise in this period but we did not expect them to turn. That element of surprise will remain. The moment we realised, we reacted promptly.

Whatever was the requirement of the army, in terms of troops and equipment was met. We were never shot of moving them wherever we wanted them to move. That has been a big change from earlier times: IAF chief

IAF has substantial presence in the northeast. Our plan of action for northeast is very much there. At the moment there are not enough numbers there but when requirements comes, we will move all kind of assets: IAF chief

This is a complex subject. At the moment we are focusing on 83 LCA. The other plan for follow up is 114 MRFA, line of LCAs and AMCA. Whether MRFA or more Rafale, this entire subject is under discussion

There is no question of underestimating adversary (China). They have their strength. Their strength lies in surface to air systems. Their strength is in long range missiles. J20 is a 5th Gen aircraft. In terms of sensors and weapons, they have latest. But not in terms of engine.

Next three months will largely focus on how talks progress. The current progress is slow. We see increased attempt to dig in during winters. We hope the talks will progress in the right direction: IAF chief

Drones are impressive part of int gathering and observation. You can’t win a war with drones. In terms of cost, it is an issue. Drones are imp in the build up. IAF chief

Direct energy is in our wish list for future. By the time FGFA comes, we are hoping to include 6th generation technology: IAF chief

American deployment is as per their perspective. When we plan to take on a threat, we don’t include others in our plans. No one will fight our war, we will have to fight on our own.

We are looking at 7 squadrons for AMCA which includes 2 squadrons of AMCA Mk 1A: IAF chief

In aerospace, engine is a complex issue. DRDO is in discussion with various players. There is a concerted drive to make a JV. We will soon see the contours of this JV and then we will know who the DRDO has finalised: IAF chief

Whether China will use Skardu is an open ended question. If Skardu gets used by China, it will be collusive threat and we will deal with it accordingly. IAF chief

Budgetary constraints will be there. It is not affecting today. It will have an effect in due course if we don’t put in the contracts in place. We will have to repriotrise... Leasing is a good option. Refuellers leasing is possible and not AWACS: IAF chief

Did we come close to using air power. No we did not. Where we prepared? Yes: IAF chief on the Ladakh tensions
 

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IAF set to place orders for 21 MiG-29 jets from Russia by Dec to shore up aircraft strength

The Indian Air Force (IAF) is set to place an order with Russia for 21 twin-engine MiG-29 jets by December, ThePrint has learnt.

Of the 1980s vintage, the jets are no longer in production but 21 airframes built then remain in Russia. Top sources in the security and defence establishment said the jets purchased by India will be upgraded to the latest version before they arrive here.

The purchase comes as the IAF faces a depleting force strength due to its fleet of legacy aircraft and budgetary constraints.


The IAF, the sources said, will first place orders for the MiG-29, and then go in for another 12 Su-30 MKI, which are being manufactured by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) under licence from Russia.

The IAF is also expected to soon place a long-pending order for the indigenous 83 Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas Mark 1A.

“We have completed the discussions with Russia. We are getting the MiG-29s at a very good price. We will soon finalise it. The order for the 12 additional Su-30 MKI will be placed with HAL after this,” a source said, refusing to get into the pricing details.

India and Russia have been in talks for the purchase of more MiG-29 jets since last year.

The Mig-29 airframes have been lying with Moscow since the late 1980s but have never been flown. The sources said a study conducted on the airframes had found them in good condition.

“The airframes are in good quality. They will now fit all the equipment and other systems as part of the deal,” the source quoted above said.

Dwindling numbers

The decision to purchase the aircraft comes amid a dwindling fighter aircraft strength in the IAF and budgetary constraints that make it difficult for the force to get new aircraft in the numbers it wants.

While the sanctioned strength of the IAF is 42 squadrons of fighters, the current strength is 30.

At his annual press conference Monday, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal R.K.S. Bhadauria said even if all acquisition plans are put in motion with strict timelines, he would be happy if the strength reaches 36-37 squadrons in the next decade.

He was also very candid about the challenge of budgetary constraints, saying their effect may not be felt immediately but will be in the future.

“Budgetary constraints will be there. It is not affecting us today. It will have an effect in due course if we don’t put the contracts in place,” he had said.

India currently has three squadrons of the MiG-29 — a twin-engine single-seat air superiority fighter aircraft. One squadron comprises 18 aircraft and all of them are currently being upgraded in-house by the IAF.

The aircraft is undergoing structural as well as avionics upgrade, besides being equipped with a new weapons package.

With the new air-to-air refuelling feature, an upgraded MiG-29 can cover larger distances compared to the previous aircraft, something the IAF is keen on, keeping in mind the possibility of a two-front war scenario.

The upgraded MiG-29s have all the latest features, including a glass cockpit with digital screens.

The upgraded aircraft can also do air-to-ground, air-to-air and even anti-shipping operations.

 

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IAF Dhruv made emergency landing in Saharanpur(UP).


I think in 2020 IAF has had no major crashes. Remarkable considering 2019 was a terrible year for crashes.
 

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Rudram 1: Features of the next-gen anti-radiation missile, explained

On Friday, India successfully tested the indigenously developed Rudram 1, a tactical anti-radiation missile capable of being launched from the Indian Air Force’s Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets. There are, reportedly, plans to integrate the missile on to India’s Mirage and Tejas fighters as well. With a launch speed of up to Mach 2 – twice the speed of sound – the missile provides the nation’s jet with a critical air-to-ground weapon that can take out enemy radars and surveillance systems. This, however, is not the first time that the DRDO has tested the anti-radiation missile with a similar test being conducted as far back as January 2019. The specialised weapon is aimed to provide tactical air superiority in warfare. Feasibility studies on India’s next-generation anti-radiation missile (NGARM) began in 2012 with the intention of designing and configuring the missile fully indigenously. In order to do this, the DRDO needed to master the development of crucial technologies including a wide-band passive seeker, a milli-metric wave active-seeker, radome for the seekers and a dual-pulse propulsion system. As the name itself suggests, the missile is designed to eliminate or suppress radiation-emitting sources such as fire control or surveillance radars. With a reported length of 5.5m, and weighing 600kg, the missile is also integrated with a millimetre wave (MMW) active seeker terminal guidance system. The seeker is essentially how the missile identifies and locates its target. It sends out radio frequency pulses that bounce off the intended target and rebound back to it. Once the signal has been processed, the range and position of the target can be determined. Missile guidance and navigation toward its target while the missile is on course take place through continuous inputs from sensors and passive homing seeker technology. These inputs are processed by an on-board computer that generates autopilot commands, with a control system steering the missile towards the target. Suppression of radar systems will enable India’s jets to carry out missions without having to worry about facing threats from radar-guided surface-to-air missiles. The first anti-radiation missile – the AGM-45 Shrike – was developed by the United States. Since then, the US has developed several upgraded versions, with Russia and Brazil also having developed their own. All these missiles, including India’s, are reported to have a range of approximately 100km. It is also worth noting that the IAF already has the Russian-made Kh-31P anti-radiation missile in its arsenal.
 

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Rudram 1: Features of the next-gen anti-radiation missile, explained

On Friday, India successfully tested the indigenously developed Rudram 1, a tactical anti-radiation missile capable of being launched from the Indian Air Force’s Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets. There are, reportedly, plans to integrate the missile on to India’s Mirage and Tejas fighters as well. With a launch speed of up to Mach 2 – twice the speed of sound – the missile provides the nation’s jet with a critical air-to-ground weapon that can take out enemy radars and surveillance systems. This, however, is not the first time that the DRDO has tested the anti-radiation missile with a similar test being conducted as far back as January 2019. The specialised weapon is aimed to provide tactical air superiority in warfare. Feasibility studies on India’s next-generation anti-radiation missile (NGARM) began in 2012 with the intention of designing and configuring the missile fully indigenously. In order to do this, the DRDO needed to master the development of crucial technologies including a wide-band passive seeker, a milli-metric wave active-seeker, radome for the seekers and a dual-pulse propulsion system. As the name itself suggests, the missile is designed to eliminate or suppress radiation-emitting sources such as fire control or surveillance radars. With a reported length of 5.5m, and weighing 600kg, the missile is also integrated with a millimetre wave (MMW) active seeker terminal guidance system. The seeker is essentially how the missile identifies and locates its target. It sends out radio frequency pulses that bounce off the intended target and rebound back to it. Once the signal has been processed, the range and position of the target can be determined. Missile guidance and navigation toward its target while the missile is on course take place through continuous inputs from sensors and passive homing seeker technology. These inputs are processed by an on-board computer that generates autopilot commands, with a control system steering the missile towards the target. Suppression of radar systems will enable India’s jets to carry out missions without having to worry about facing threats from radar-guided surface-to-air missiles. The first anti-radiation missile – the AGM-45 Shrike – was developed by the United States. Since then, the US has developed several upgraded versions, with Russia and Brazil also having developed their own. All these missiles, including India’s, are reported to have a range of approximately 100km. It is also worth noting that the IAF already has the Russian-made Kh-31P anti-radiation missile in its arsenal.
Stupid question , but can it take down AWACS..
 

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Stupid question , but can it take down AWACS..
It has a passive X band seeker and a MMW radar so it is specialized for striking ground based radar emitters. In theory it could be used to target AWACS but it is not optimal. Better to use a regular long range RF AAM for that role.

But this is truly good news for the IAF. Although it looks pretty heavy i.e. 600 kg according to some reports substantially heavier than the AGM-88 HARM of the USAF which is 360 kg. Though some reports indicate that the Rudram-1 has a range of upto 250 km and the seeker has an acquisition range of 100 km. If that is indeed the case then the weight of 600 kg is an acceptable trade off for a first generation effort. And it will be a substantial range increase over the Russian KH-31P that the IAF currently uses on the SU-30.

In the cat and mouse game between a defending radar range vs a anti radiation missile the big swing factor is the RCS of the striking aircraft. And here unfortunately the SU-30 is as big as a barn!! I really wonder what will be the outcome of an SAP-14 pod jamming the radar of an HQ-9 SAM battery while an accompanying SU-30 is carrying a RUDRAM-1. The big question is, will the HQ-9 radar burn through the SAP-14 pod jamming before the RUDRAM-1 is within range? In this kind of a situation, having a VLO/stealth aircraft is very valuable. It can get up close, very much within the strike range of the anti radiation missile it is carrying before the ground radar can detect it.
 

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How exactly does the range of the Netra compare to the Phalcon AWACS? What would be the ideal number of acquisitions for both platforms?

And how many tankers should we *ideally* have?
 

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How exactly does the range of the Netra compare to the Phalcon AWACS? What would be the ideal number of acquisitions for both platforms?

And how many tankers should we *ideally* have?
Just a wild suggestion. Covid 19 has decimated air traffic. Many airlines and aircraft leasing companies are struggling and their planes are sitting idle. So why not we buy second hand 737 and convert it into AEW&C.

Boeing wedgetail with RAAF:


 

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Indian Air Force (IAF) chief, Air Chief Marshal Rakesh Kumar Singh Bhadauria and Deputy Chief of Air Force Air Marshal Sandeep Singh for the first time have confirmed possibilities of IAF acquiring Embraer ERJ145 and Airbus A330 platforms from the Civilian Market, which are up for sale due to declining Commercial Airline industries due to Chinese virus situations worldwide.

idrw.org .Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website http://idrw.org/iaf-open-to-scout-p...nd-awacs-india-programs-from-civilian-market/ .

 

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