Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[SKC]

Market this aggressively in international arena. There is lot of demands for this class of trainer.

 

[SKC]

The Marut lives on. Call it the Marut II. This thing could potentially replace the Jaguar in it's role.

Someone posted about an Internal project of HAL to start Marut II program. Can't say if that was legit news.

 

[Johny_Baba]

while we are excited about return of HF-24 Marut in new avataar,

porkies and chinis are buzzing and calling it Guizhou JL-9 copy reeee

or going deeper and calling it copy of 1960s era chini DF-113 something

 

[NutCracker]

me rn
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all these claims of AESA IRST FBW and what not...but most crucial part is overlooked or uncommented as of now that is engine...without a proper F404 level engine it seems more or less impossible to give it such a massive payload
but i guess 42 denotes engine thrust in KiloNewton then...is it Mig-21's Tumansky on it ?! or derated F404 or F414 ? or we going to put Kaveri on it ?

Dry Kaveri for beginning. Later on with AB, how bout dat..

weren't we conducting high altitude testing in Russia.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Damn

Blame my pessimistic ass but we have too many fighter jet projects in the pipeline but none is inching toward fruition.

Tejas Mk2 -> Delayed
TEBDEF -> Funds not even sanctioned
AMCA -> ?? Tentative
Now, this.

Rather focus 100% on one or two projects and stop working on 10 different things at the same time.

 

[SKC]

Blame my pessimistic ass but we have too many fighter jet projects in the pipeline but none is inching toward fruition.

Tejas Mk2 -> Delayed
TEBDEF -> Funds not even sanctioned
AMCA -> ?? Tentative
Now, this.

Rather focus 100% on one or two projects and stop working on 10 different things at the same time.

This is what other countries are doing. With the limited fundings and economy, most country put their efforts on one project at a time and then move forward to other.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Blame my pessimistic ass but we have too many fighter jet projects in the pipeline but none is inching toward fruition.

Tejas Mk2 -> Delayed
TEBDEF -> Funds not even sanctioned
AMCA -> ?? Tentative
Now, this.

Rather focus 100% on one or two projects and stop working on 10 different things at the same time.

in hindsight it's good to go 'never put your all eggs in one basket' thing IF it results in some fruition somewhere,
BUT the amount of ;vighna-santoshi; we are dealing with ,both internal and external, is unreal...nowhere else you might see self sabotaging sleuths like ours.

 

[Gyyan]

Blame my pessimistic ass but we have too many fighter jet projects in the pipeline but none is inching toward fruition.

Tejas Mk2 -> Delayed
TEBDEF -> Funds not even sanctioned
AMCA -> ?? Tentative
Now, this.

Rather focus 100% on one or two projects and stop working on 10 different things at the same time.

If you add UCAVs to the list it becomes even more
TIA-AV50
ghatak
CATS family.

 

[Gyyan]

while we are excited about return of HF-24 Marut in new avataar,

porkies and chinis are buzzing and calling it Guizhou JL-9 copy reeee
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or going deeper and calling it copy of 1960s era chini DF-113 something

Marut was in service by 1967 when was this shit inducted into PLAAF?

 

[mist_consecutive]

If you add UCAVs to the list it becomes even more
TIA-AV50
ghatak
CATS family.

Yes, let's leave the private sector ones (CATS is NewSpace JV). But even after -

• LCH Mk1A
• LCA Mk2
• TEBDEF
• AMCA
• HLFT-42
• LCH (Needs weapons & sensors)
• IMRH
• Tapas BH
• Rustom - 1
• NAL Saras
• Twin-boom Tapas (forgot the name)

I probably still missed a few.

 

[Gyyan]

Yes, let's leave the private sector ones (CATS is NewSpace JV). But even after -

• LCH Mk1A
• LCA Mk2
• TEBDEF
• AMCA
• HLFT-42
• LCH (Needs weapons & sensors)
• IMRH
• Tapas BH
• Rustom - 1
• NAL Saras
• Twin-boom Tapas (forgot the name)

I probably still missed a few.

Swift(saw somewhere there was an idea to develope it into a seperate prog.)
TIA-AV50
Ghatak

 

[Gyyan]

Looks like nothing but a rebadged J-17 or something.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Swift(saw somewhere there was an idea to develope it into a seperate prog.)
TIA-AV50
Ghatak

HAL RUAV Drone Heli

 

[Tridev123]

Blame my pessimistic ass but we have too many fighter jet projects in the pipeline but none is inching toward fruition.

Tejas Mk2 -> Delayed
TEBDEF -> Funds not even sanctioned
AMCA -> ?? Tentative
Now, this.

Rather focus 100% on one or two projects and stop working on 10 different things at the same time.

Though some people might interpret it as throwing cold water on the proposal, it is a sound piece of advice.

We have a penchant for making high level promises and then unfortunately not delivering on time and within cost estimates.

The LCA mk1 and the LCA mk1a(there is no big hurdle to be crossed) are indeed Indian success stories(though a bit delayed).

The LCA mk2 should be our next success story. No reason why it should not become a reality before 2030.

These will provide the stepping stones for realising the futuristic AMCA, TEDBF/ORCA etc.

There is nothing wrong in dreaming big, but putting the load repeatedly on the same players ADA, HAL etc will be counterproductive. At least share the costs and risks with reputable, big private sector companies. Even though most of the private companies may lack experience in the aerospace field, guide them initially, hand hold them, enabling their staff to gain the required skills.
This symbiotic partnership will pay dividends in the long term and will only benefit India by adding to the aerospace ecosystem.

More number of players in aerospace should be welcomed.

Of course, we have to cross the biggest hurdle in aerospace, namely high performance turbofan engines.

 

[Gyyan]

So total no of rollout in 3-4 year increases to 4
TEDBF-2026-27
AMCA - 2027-28
HLFT42 -2026-27
MK2 - 2026-27

 

[jai jaganath]

So total no of rollout in 3-4 year increases to 4
TEDBF-2026-27
AMCA - 2027-28
HLFT42 -2026-27
MK2 - 2026-27

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Slight correction mk2 2024-25
Latest update by cmd right?

 

[Gyyan]

Slight correction mk2 2024-25
Latest update by cmd right?

Ab to itna dates ho gaya ki yaad hi nahi rhta kab kya hoga🥲🥲🥲

 

[Gyyan]

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[Gyyan]

No info on parameters as of now but it's good that it will be in prototype stage by the end of 2023.