India will never buy Russian Su35 or Mig 35 as India has already developed those technologies

[HariPrasad-1]

This video claims that magazine defense weekely has discussed the reason why India will not by Russian Sukhoi 35 or Mig 35 plane. The reason being India have developed the the four plus plus generation Technologies covertly which are much better than what Russia has on offer. India already have those Technology and advanced algorithm. Russian planes are not capable of giving India an edge over China in case of any possible conflict. This is the reason why India is not interested in buying the Russian planes. This is claimed by a magazine called defence weekly as per the video. I don't have the link of that article but in case any body find it, they can post it here discussion.

 

[kamaal]

India has no weapon comparable to Su-35. So we should not brag about having 4+ gen fighter developing capability, having capability and having actual 4+ gen jet are two different aspects.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

India has no weapon comparable to Su-35. So we should not brag about having 4+ gen fighter developing capability, having capability and having actual 4+ gen jet are two different aspects.

Which generation plane The Tejas is?

 

[Dark Sorrow]

India has no weapon comparable to Su-35. So we should not brag about having 4+ gen fighter developing capability, having capability and having actual 4+ gen jet are two different aspects.

What is so great about Su-35 that India doesn't have?

 

[Dark Sorrow]

His/her voice is very annoying. All the points mentioned in the video were open secret, just no one was talking about them.

 

[arkos]

What is so great about Su-35 that India doesn't have?

Radar, engine, weapons, avionic suite....

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Radar, engine, weapons, avionic suite....

Radar -> We have Uttam AESA Radar. If rumors are to be believed we shall be using scaled up version of Uttam AESA Radar on our Su-30MKI post mid life upgarde.
Engine -> As per the rumors on internet IAF was not keen on upgrading engine on Su-30MKI as cost-benefit analysis didn't show significant advantages.
Weapons -> What weapons are exclusive to Su-35 that are not available on Su-30 MKI? On the contrary most of Indian weapons are tested and integrated on Su-30MKI.
Avionic suite -> What differentiates SU-30MKI from rest of Su-30 platform is the advanced avionic suite which is a mix of French, Israeli and Indian avionic. What avionics Su-35 offers that surpasses our current suite in terms of performance and efficiency? In-fact we had replaced Russian avionics in Su-30MKI.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Yes, India has mastered the alogarithm of writing relaxed static stability software, India has done very nice in the field of electronic Warfare in collaboration with Israel. India has done exceptionally well in the field of BVR and also working in the field of WVR. India has assembled a very nice active electronically scanned array radar and working on its more potent version. India is also working on the gallium nitrate based active electronic scan areay radar. India has master the technology of carbon composite. India's working on radar absorption material as well. India's has mastered the technologies of aerodynamics and airframe designing and simulation study of stress on the same airframe in different speed zones. Everything except engine is done. Now if we can get a good quality of engine within 6 to 7 years ,we will master all the the technologies to make a state of art fighter plane. Russia is lagging behind in many areas to India like composite ,electronics, radar and weapons. So naturally , we don't need Russia now at least in the fighter fighter plane.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I don't know how many guys will agree with me but India has taken a giant stride in the field of Defence Technology the brightest area where India has done exceptionally well is missile technology, worship Technologies, and some areas of Radar Technologies, Torpedo etc. If I say today that India is doing much better than China than many guys will disagree with me but with the passage of time, more snd more people will agree with me. Agni 1 prime has drawn attrntion world wide. One Chinese 3xpert said that it has a potential to be used as carrier killer as well.

 

[Shekhar Singh]

Radar, engine, weapons, avionic suite....

We have every thing except engine.
Radar- uttam Aesa, GaN based very soon
BVR- Astra(110km), inducted
Astra mk2(160 to 180km)development
Astra mk3 Sfdr(300 km) development
WVR- Astra IR
Air to surface-

Brahmos
Rudram Anti radiation
Nirbhay(planned)
Bombs- Precision-guided munition
DRDO HSLD100/250/450/500
DRDO glide bombs
DRDO SAAW
Laser-guided bomb
Sudarshan
Cluster munition
Loitering munition
DRDO SWARM
Unguided bomb

Avionics

• LRDE Uttam AESA Radar[46][47]
• DARE Unified Electronic Warfare Suite (UEWS)[48]
• DARE Dual Colour Missile Approach Warning System (DCMAWS)[49]

And there are many other things.

 

[arkos]

Radar -> We have Uttam AESA Radar. If rumors are to be believed we shall be using scaled up version of Uttam AESA Radar on our Su-30MKI post mid life upgarde.
Engine -> As per the rumors on internet IAF was not keen on upgrading engine on Su-30MKI as cost-benefit analysis didn't show significant advantages.
Weapons -> What weapons are exclusive to Su-35 that are not available on Su-30 MKI? On the contrary most of Indian weapons are tested and integrated on Su-30MKI.
Avionic suite -> What differentiates SU-30MKI from rest of Su-30 platform is the advanced avionic suite which is a mix of French, Israeli and Indian avionic. What avionics Su-35 offers that surpasses our current suite in terms of performance and efficiency? In-fact we had replaced Russian avionics in Su-30MKI.

Do you even understand what is being discussed? Why are you bringing in SU 30 in the picture ? Discussion is about Indian and Russian capabilities, does India have an aircraft engine as good as Russians, do we have radars for our aircrafts similar in level to current Russian aesa radars, do we have weapon systems as advanced as them ?
Fanboys in this forum are funny. They like to make fun of delusional pakis but are no different from them.

 

[Tang]

Do you even understand what is being discussed? Why are you bringing in SU 30 in the picture ? Discussion is about Indian and Russian capabilities, does India have an aircraft engine as good as Russians, do we have radars for our aircrafts similar in level to current Russian aesa radars, do we have weapon systems as advanced as them ?
Fanboys in this forum are funny. They like to make fun of delusional pakis but are no different from them.

Yes we do have radars better than Russian radars, btw what is your age?

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Do you even understand what is being discussed? Why are you bringing in SU 30 in the picture ? Discussion is about Indian and Russian capabilities, does India have an aircraft engine as good as Russians, do we have radars for our aircrafts similar in level to current Russian aesa radars, do we have weapon systems as advanced as them ?
Fanboys in this forum are funny. They like to make fun of delusional pakis but are no different from them.

You should re-watch the video. The discussion is about why India would not buy Su-35 its not about capabilities.
Su-35 will be compared to Su-30MKI if it is considered to procurement. What advanced Russian AESA radar you are talking about that is present in Su-35.
Have a rational thought before harping on Russian band wagon. Your response seems to be a typical amateurish response instead of providing technical comparison. A typical knee-jerk reaction.

 

[Shekhar Singh]

Do you even understand what is being discussed? Why are you bringing in SU 30 in the picture ? Discussion is about Indian and Russian capabilities, does India have an aircraft engine as good as Russians, do we have radars for our aircrafts similar in level to current Russian aesa radars, do we have weapon systems as advanced as them ?
Fanboys in this forum are funny. They like to make fun of delusional pakis but are no different from them.
[/QUOTE

No AESA radar is operational in any russian fighter aircraft. We have nearly every type of missiles and munitions so don't need Russian stuff for that purpose. Yes we are yet to develop a mature engine but we are making our Aircrafts around western engines so Russian engines are not required for our aircrafts. So we don't need any Russian tech for our desi aircrafts.

 

[arkos]

Yes, Indian missiles and bombs that are now arming our frontline aircraft, Indian radars being used in all aircrafts. I just can't see them must be some alien technology.

 

[Sarjen]

This video claims that magazine defense weekely has discussed the reason why India will not by Russian Sukhoi 35 or Mig 35 plane. The reason being India have developed the the four plus plus generation Technologies covertly which are much better than what Russia has on offer. India already have those Technology and advanced algorithm. Russian planes are not capable of giving India an edge over China in case of any possible conflict. This is the reason why India is not interested in buying the Russian planes. This is claimed by a magazine called defence weekly as per the video. I don't have the link of that article but in case any body find it, they can post it here discussion.

Sure India won't buy su35 and might..... but to say we already developed those techs is the joke of the day..... this thread needs to be moved to jokes section

 

[HariPrasad-1]

We have every thing except engine.
Radar- uttam Aesa, GaN based very soon
BVR- Astra(110km), inducted
Astra mk2(160 to 180km)development
Astra mk3 Sfdr(300 km) development
WVR- Astra IR
Air to surface-

Brahmos
Rudram Anti radiation
Nirbhay(planned)
Bombs- Precision-guided munition
DRDO HSLD100/250/450/500
DRDO glide bombs
DRDO SAAW
Laser-guided bomb
Sudarshan
Cluster munition
Loitering munition
DRDO SWARM
Unguided bomb

Avionics

• LRDE Uttam AESA Radar[46][47]
• DARE Unified Electronic Warfare Suite (UEWS)[48]
• DARE Dual Colour Missile Approach Warning System (DCMAWS)[49]

And there are many other things.

Yes, very corrdct.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Sure India won't buy su35 and might..... but to say we already developed those techs is the joke of the day..... this thread needs to be moved to jokes section

It is said by defense weekly. I filly support it. Tejas is flying with technologies I mentioned. Many new trchnologies have come subsequent to that.

 

[Sarjen]

It is said by defense weekly. I filly support it. Tejas is flying with technologies I mentioned. Many new trchnologies have come subsequent to that.

Well defense weekly is trolling us all

 

[HariPrasad-1]

His/her voice is very annoying. All the points mentioned in the video were open secret, just no one was talking about them.

When something is said by a prominent Journal, it is a sort of authentication.