India US Relations

[fooLIam]

What happens to quad.
Is it officially dead?
No news for long time.

 

[another_armchair]

What happens to quad.
Is it officially dead?
No news for long time.

Our Foreign Minister is looking forward to visiting India for Quad FMs' meet: Japanese envoy

By Ayushi Agarwal New Delhi [India], December 18 (ANI): Japanese Foreign Affairs Minister Hayashi Yoshimasa is looking forward to visiting India next year during the Quad Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in early 2023, said Hiroshi Suzuki, Ambassador of Japan to India. Show Full Article “India is...

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Japanese Foreign Affairs Minister Hayashi Yoshimasa is looking forward to visiting India next year during the Quad Foreign Ministers’ Meeting in early 2023, said Hiroshi Suzuki, Ambassador of Japan to India.

“India is going to be the Host for the Quad (Quadrilateral Security Dialogue) Foreign Ministers meeting and my Foreign Minister Hayashi is looking forward to visiting India on this occasion. Quad as you know has been getting firmly on the ground. We had the first summit last year in Washington D.C and then this year in Tokyo and I am glad that next year India is going to host the Foreign Minister’s Meeting.

 

[Jimih]

Unkil Sam back to hyphenating

 

[IndianSpiderman]

It's like their bag of tricks is running low, so they're rinsing and repeating ancient ones. They really have no clue on how to effectively deal with Jaishankar's slaps.

 

[Spindrift]

Unkil Sam back to hyphenating

Can someone please explain to the US official that Paki people have a tendency to unexpectedly blow up and that is usually injurious to other people who are around them.

 

[Hari Sud]

What happens to quad.
Is it officially dead?
No news for long time.

‘Biden is too busy in War in Europe which he must win or loose his job. He is not going to win but Ukraine will be a pile of rubble.

Somehow Biden managed to persuade China not to strain American resources by attacking Taiwan. In that case US would have to run with its military to save Taiwan. He used trade and especially Chinese exports to US and Europe as a big stick. Chinese under internal pressure of Covid listened. Moreover how much Chinese boast, they are no match to American hardware and military trainning.

Hence Biden after persuading China and busy in Europe put the QUAD on the back burner. Very compliant Japanese agreed but other two partners India and Australia disagreed but can do nothing until the war ends in Europe or Chinese begin a fresh dose of intimidation over Taiwan.

 

[Kumaoni]

Unkil Sam back to hyphenating

Negotiating with terrorists? USA knows damn well the cause of this conflict.

 

[skunk works]

All flights in the USA have been grounded for the first time since 9/11.
Official explanation: failure of the NOTAM distribution system.
Tin foil moment: Russian cyber attack?

Why are massive flight delays and system downings an almost monthly feature now? Why are all these systems suddenly failing in 2022 after working flawlessly for so many years?
Remember the Sohthwest airline fiasco from only last week??

 

[ezsasa]

All flights in the USA have been grounded for the first time since 9/11.
Official explanation: failure of the NOTAM distribution system.
Tin foil moment: Russian cyber attack?

Why are massive flight delays and system downings an almost monthly feature now? Why are all these systems suddenly failing in 2022 after working flawlessly for so many years?
Remember the Sohthwest airline fiasco from only last week??

look for cost cutting in IT infra due to recession.

even goldman sachs is into job cuts these days, same must be happening all over.

 

[Hari Sud]

US Presidents and India.

Every time a Democrats takes power in last 30 to 40 years, there is a breakdown in Indo-US relations. President Carter in late seventies started the deterioration. He provided a massive support for Pakistan and round about relationship with india because india did not support massive influx of arms into Afghanistan via Pakistan. Then came Reagan. He was too busy to isolate Soviet Union hence no time for India. He was neither good nor bad for India. He was a Republican.

Real damage to Indo-US relations happened during President Clinton, a Democrat, administration. He hired all anti Indian politicians in the State Department who gave him the worst advice. India had done nothing wrong to him, but his smiles and handshakes were deceptive.

President Bush (Jr), a Republican was relatively alright but got too busy with Middle East and Afghan Wars. Because he was not paying too much attention elsewhere, the Chinese took away all manufacturing to China, a process started by Clinton. Also the Pakistanis grabbed a huge chunk of military and economic aid in the name of supporting Afghan war effort.

President Obama, a Democrat, was mostly smiles and handshake. He was too nervous to change anything least a black man never ever comes to power again. For India, he was more smiles than any help to build the economy just as America had done to China.

Real advantage for India came when President Trump, a Republican came to power. He cast the India-US relations a new. Pakistan and China lost their vantage position. Indian PM Modi changed the policies internally and invited the West to establish manufacturing and send greater amount of FDI. That greatly helped to set the tone of 8% economic growth. Trump lasted 4 years only. I wished he had got another term.

The current President, Joe Biden, a Democrat does not know which way to go. He has competence issues. He started the Ukraine war at the advice of his advisors and much of his energy is devoted to defeat Russia. On top of that, a client country China, which owes its rise to American largesse started to act too smart. They would invade Taiwan and all other countries when America is busy in Europe. It was Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat to the rescue. She made a dramatic trip to Taiwan and told the Chinese to get lost. After that the Chinese relented.

For India, Joe Biden is mostly inconsiderate. He wants good relations but Ukraine War consumes him. He was about to sanction India on Russian oil purchase but relented as the European leaders advised against it. His, the State Department is staffed by people who were left over of Clinton era, hence give him very unpleasant advice to challenge India. So far, thanks to PM Modi, clever policies, india has escaped the butt end of his bad policies. India hopes that he should not gave a second term.

In short, Republicans in US are better for India.

 

[Varoon2]

US govt agency giving money to restore Hyderabad tombs. I hope this same agency is also giving funding for Hindu sites as well, including those in Moslem countries.

US Govt to fund conservation of tombs of Paigah family in Hyderabad

As per the Telangana government's website, the Paigah family claimed to be descendants of the second caliph of Islam, Hazrath Omar Bin Al-Khattab. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

 

[ezsasa]

first thought when i read this tweet, is "oh no, what new nonsense these idiots are going to create now".

these days they keep talking about increasing co-operation both at centre and state level. when they say state level, it points to sub-nationalism.
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India will be focus of U.S. diplomacy in 2023: Kurt Campbell
"White House coordinator for Indo-Pacific affairs made clear that India was next on his radar for 2023." Desperately needed, after a year like 2022.


Hyderabad: US Govt to fund conservation of tombs of Paigah family, loyalists to Nizams, believed to be descendants of second Caliph of Islam

US Govt to fund conservation of tombs of Paigah family in Hyderabad

As per the Telangana government's website, the Paigah family claimed to be descendants of the second caliph of Islam, Hazrath Omar Bin Al-Khattab. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

 

[Blademaster]

first thought when i read this tweet, is "oh no, what new nonsense these idiots are going to create now".

these days they keep talking about increasing co-operation both at centre and state level. when they say state level, it points to sub-nationalism.
========
India will be focus of U.S. diplomacy in 2023: Kurt Campbell
"White House coordinator for Indo-Pacific affairs made clear that India was next on his radar for 2023." Desperately needed, after a year like 2022.


Hyderabad: US Govt to fund conservation of tombs of Paigah family, loyalists to Nizams, believed to be descendants of second Caliph of Islam

US Govt to fund conservation of tombs of Paigah family in Hyderabad

As per the Telangana government's website, the Paigah family claimed to be descendants of the second caliph of Islam, Hazrath Omar Bin Al-Khattab. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

How do we curtail such US funding without the Central GoI approval?

 

[Jimih]

first thought when i read this tweet, is "oh no, what new nonsense these idiots are going to create now".

Hyderabad: US Govt to fund conservation of tombs of Paigah family, loyalists to Nizams, believed to be descendants of second Caliph of Islam

Let me connect the dots:

1) RRR's music wins Golden Globe, (which was unexpected).

2) CM Jagan says, proud moment for Telugu land/flag.

3) US Govt will now fund conservation of Nizam tombs in Hyderabad.

 

[Kumaoni]

Let me connect the dots:

1) RRR's music wins Golden Globe, (which was unexpected).

2) CM Jagan says, proud moment for Telugu land/flag.

3) US Govt will now fund conservation of Nizam tombs in Hyderabad.

The real reason RRR won global awards

 

[dfcool]

How do we curtail such US funding without the Central GoI approval?

What it has to do with Central govt. It is State approved and most people don't know but States have many powers. For ex. Centre can't build roads without State permission.

GO to tamilnadu, these rejuvenations has been happening since 90s.

Most importantly, Last year US govt announced Co-operation with Indian state govts individually, posted somewhere on DFI couldn't recollect now. This is just the beginning of many things to come.

 

[ezsasa]

How do we curtail such US funding without the Central GoI approval?

it can't be curtailed by GoI if muricans are adamant about it, only dictatorships and communist regimes have such capability and willingness, we can't.

it's not difficult to see what the muricans are trying to do, they are trying to mitigate the risk of placing all their eggs in one basket. issue here is not muricans, but rather their Indian advisors, the usual "south asia exfarts". our issue is that murican diplomacy has a history of making bad calls world over, their middle and lower layer diplomatic corps have a tendency to live in echo chambers until $hit hits the fan", for example: their reading of tiananmen square protests is very different from how Indian diplomats read the ground situation. same with events leading upto 1971 bangladesh liberation war.

 

[Blademaster]

What it has to do with Central govt. It is State approved and most people don't know but States have many powers. For ex. Centre can't build roads without State permission.

GO to tamilnadu, these rejuvenations has been happening since 90s.

Most importantly, Last year US govt announced Co-operation with Indian state govts individually, posted somewhere on DFI couldn't recollect now. This is just the beginning of many things to come.

Then this is a blatant interference with a sovereign nation and the Centre must sit up and take notice of it and issue warnings regardless of states' powers. The interests of the nation runs supreme to the interests of the state. That's a basic tenet of any nation.

it can't be curtailed by GoI if muricans are adamant about it, only dictatorships and communist regimes have such capability and willingness, we can't.

If US can prosecute people and even foreign powers for even mild interactions, so can India.

it's not difficult to see what the muricans are trying to do, they are trying to mitigate the risk of placing all their eggs in one basket. issue here is not muricans, but rather their Indian advisors, the usual "south asia exfarts". our issue is that murican diplomacy has a history of making bad calls world over, their middle and lower layer diplomatic corps have a tendency to live in echo chambers until $hit hits the fan", for example: their reading of tiananmen square protests is very different from how Indian diplomats read the ground situation. same with events leading upto 1971 bangladesh liberation war.

Then it is up to the MEA to start educating American diplomats along with a gentle nudge by the CBI as to what's acceptable and not.

 

[ezsasa]

If US can prosecute people and even foreign powers for even mild interactions, so can India.

the chini built private police stations and physical influence ops infra right under their nose on U.S soil, US Gov reaction was mild to say the least.

 

[Blademaster]

the chini built private police stations and physical influence ops infra right under their nose on U.S soil, US Gov reaction was mild to say the least.

Not really. The hammer is coming.