India US Relations

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

There is no award, just pointing out your hypocrisy.

I think you did not get the context in which @Bhumihar made that remark.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Oh dear.

I have seen Indian women who are filth
and I have seen White women who are absolute gems.

No one is asking for an award, just pointing out that marrying some one from other country is not the end of being an Indian.

Whether some one marries an a Hindu woman, Indian woman, muslim woman, white, black or Japanese, it's their choice.
One thing you learn in life is that Love cannot be controlled or rationale.

As long as a man or woman is love, marry and have a nice life, why should anyone care?

Maybe you are not aware but this guy got irritated by my posts and now spinning mental gymnastics to justify his immigration.

 

[Suryavanshi]

also this conversation might be off topic but it was eventual to arise we have kept these immigrant's on a pedestals, folks who do not have a skin in the game.

 

[prasadr14]

also this conversation might be off topic but it was eventual to arise we have kept these immigrant's on a pedestals, folks who do not have a skin in the game.

Again a generic statement.
No one here demanded that you keep anyone on a pedestal.

Let's not insult others by talking about skin in the game.
We are NOT here for a competition to measure whose wiener is large.
Let us understand that we are all here because we are united in a cause & no contribution is to belittled.

If you have problems with a person, deal with him.
Please don't generalize, it's uncouth.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Again a generic statement

A statement that is rooted in a certain observation and philosophy.

No one here demanded that you keep anyone on a pedestal.

The immigrants are the ones putting themselves on a pedestal.
How does one meet a Indian outside India and not revolt in disgust when they say they left the country and don't expect to be judged for it?

Let's not insult others by talking about skin in the game.

The skin in the game is real you are dismissing something that is real and alive.

Let us understand that we are all here because we are united in a cause & no contribution is to belittled.

United but I expect an honest confession from immigrants that they left for better opportunity and are ultimately not Indian citizens just well wishers of their home country. They will not relinquish their citizenship ever.

Please don't generalize, it's uncouth.

I will generlise it is a must, the whole world runs on scientific generalizations. Exception exists but generalizations is a must.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Again a generic statement.
No one here demanded that you keep anyone on a pedestal.

Let's not insult others by talking about skin in the game.
We are NOT here for a competition to measure whose wiener is large.
Let us understand that we are all here because we are united in a cause & no contribution is to belittled.

If you have problems with a person, deal with him.
Please don't generalize, it's uncouth.

Oh we must generalize,we do it our enemies like paki because it is true.immigrants should realise that until they have the maximum commitment,their opinion will be of lesser value.this truth is for them to deal with.i used to be an immigrant from the uae,now I live and work in india.i have skin in the game.

Beside the bang for buck of Indian immigrants for their nation compared to Chinese immigrants is very less.they only offer passive benefits to us while Chinese immigrants have been instrumental in stealing tech and even changing gov policies of foreign countries.even pakis shitty immigrants could play a more decisive part in being part of the Pak states machinations.

Paki remmitances play a large part in keeping their state solvent and are more critical to Pak state than Indian immigrants are to India.

I have low expectations of Indian immigrants.if they want to prove themselves to be nationalists put actions to their words.

 

[srevster]

No one is asking for a pedestal. Just asking for you to not make high handed statements like you lose your worth if you cross the international border of India. You made this artificial Lakshman rekha in your head and disposed of all other logic. So I'm asking you to apply your logic to Jaishankar.

 

[cannonfodder]

Whether People like or not India-US relationship are probably entering the next phase meaning there will be more military tech, more trade and more manufacturing inspite of saas bhi kabhi bahu thi rhetoric.

US people will appreciate the straight talk that we will keep buying according to energy security/military needs. Don't give sermons on human rights thingy. Some thing has definitely changed as he point blanked told CAATSA is totally US problem to solve and its self inflected cut by US.

Whereas with CCP, we have seen how meek MEA has been. Its keep your enemies closer play IMO.

I am very optimistic that this will bode well both for both countries:
https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...modi-discusses-technology/article65298546.ece

"Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger meets PM Modi, discusses technology"

 

[ezsasa]

Whether People like or not India-US relationship are probably entering the next phase meaning there will be more military tech, more trade and more manufacturing inspite of saas bhi kabhi bahu thi rhetoric.

US people will appreciate the straight talk that we will keep buying according to energy security/military needs. Don't give sermons on human rights thingy. Some thing has definitely changed as he point blanked told CAATSA is totally US problem to solve and its self inflected cut by US.

Whereas with CCP, we have seen how meek MEA has been. Its keep your enemies closer play IMO.

I am very optimistic that this will bode well both for both countries:
https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...modi-discusses-technology/article65298546.ece

"Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger meets PM Modi, discusses technology"

all countries are acting meek when dealing with CCP, not just us.
at the blinken-CCP meeting in alaska last year, after aggressive posturing for cameras, apparently the meeting went cordially for hours after cameras went away.

 

[Indrajit]

No one is asking for a pedestal. Just asking for you to not make high handed statements like you lose your worth if you cross the international border of India. You made this artificial Lakshman rekha in your head and disposed of all other logic. So I'm asking you to apply your logic to Jaishankar.

Jaishankar is an Indian citizen who worked almost all his life for India. Who he is married to is personal to him and irrelevant to most of us.

 

[srevster]

Jaishankar is an Indian citizen who worked almost all his life for India. Who he is married to is personal to him and irrelevant to most of us.

Great apply the same principle to Overseas Citizens of India. These people are no less or more than Jaishankar

 

[Love Charger]

For the anti immigration gang!!!!

Jaishankar’s wife is Japanese. How do you marry someone without spending some time outside the country?!

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His kids must be very smart

 

[Suryavanshi]

Great apply the same principle to Overseas Citizens of India. These people are no less or more than Jaishankar

The fella could have taken Japanese Citizesnhip but he didn't he remained here how is it the same as someone who has taken murican Citizenship and copes for his abandonment by doing mental gymnastics on an Indian Defence forum.
Immigration is purely a self serving theme no amount of cope will change that.

His kids must be very smart

Why is that?

 

[Indrajit]

Great apply the same principle to Overseas Citizens of India. These people are no less or more than Jaishankar

That's just a stupid name for a long term visa. OCI's have either given up Indian citizenship or are children of parents who have done so. Not comparable.

 

[Hari Sud]

Whether People like or not India-US relationship are probably entering the next phase meaning there will be more military tech, more trade and more manufacturing inspite of saas bhi kabhi bahu thi rhetoric.

US people will appreciate the straight talk that we will keep buying according to energy security/military needs. Don't give sermons on human rights thingy. Some thing has definitely changed as he point blanked told CAATSA is totally US problem to solve and its self inflected cut by US.

Whereas with CCP, we have seen how meek MEA has been. Its keep your enemies closer play IMO.

I am very optimistic that this will bode well both for both countries:
https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...modi-discusses-technology/article65298546.ece

"Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger meets PM Modi, discusses technology"

‘Not likely any fruitful outcome with US although propaganda says that India-US ties are entering the next phase. US is mad at India for sitting on the fence on Ukraine war. India is not supporting Russia or US because india believes that it is US precipitated action to encourage Ukraine to join NATO which brought Russian invasion.

As US acts foolish, they dusted the Human Rights file on India. It brought a very strong rebuke from India which reminded US to look at their own record. Also US religious lobby is over active on limits being placed on money induced Christian conversions in India. These are shelf issues and see light of the day only when US is mad at india.

Did you notice that a law professor of an American University cursing Brahmins taking over the CEOs job of US multinationals. She never considered that it is business and merit is the reason for promotion.

All these are expressions of displeasure and US anger for not supporting US sermons on Ukraine. I personally hold Ukraine president responsible for this war. He is the one who invited NATO to set up shop there, which resulted in Russian Invasion.

Hence next phase of the Indo -US ties has to wait, probably wait for the exit of the current Democratic Administration in three years.

 

[jackprince]

Great apply the same principle to Overseas Citizens of India. These people are no less or more than Jaishankar

OCI status is a privilege and they aren't Indian citizen. S. Jaishankar is an Indian. His choice for life partner would have mattered had he chosen someone whose nation had dubious attitude toward India. He married a Japanese and Japan has been a good friend of India for a very long time. So I don't understand what isthe problem here. We had a PM whose wife was a foreigner and the same woman went to become the de-facto PM of India through NAC for a decade. So, a diplomat having a wife whose nationality was different, is a non-issue to say the least.

 

[Flying Dagger]

‘Not likely any fruitful outcome with US although propaganda says that India-US ties are entering the next phase. US is mad at India for sitting on the fence on Ukraine war. India is not supporting Russia or US because india believes that it is US precipitated action to encourage Ukraine to join NATO which brought Russian invasion.

As US acts foolish, they dusted the Human Rights file on India. It brought a very strong rebuke from India which reminded US to look at their own record. Also US religious lobby is over active on limits being placed on money induced Christian conversions in India. These are shelf issues and see light of the day only when US is mad at india.

Did you notice that a law professor of an American University cursing Brahmins taking over the CEOs job of US multinationals. She never considered that it is business and merit is the reason for promotion.

All these are expressions of displeasure and US anger for not supporting US sermons on Ukraine. I personally hold Ukraine president responsible for this war. He is the one who invited NATO to set up shop there, which resulted in Russian Invasion.

Hence next phase of the Indo -US ties has to wait, probably wait for the exit of the current Democratic Administration in three years.

Our internal weakness is causing us a great opportunity for exploiting the current global scenario.


Russia Ukraine war wasn't fruitful for us but if Russia had finished it earlier things would have been better.

We just need to look out for ourselves anyway.

 

[jackprince]

Whether People like or not India-US relationship are probably entering the next phase meaning there will be more military tech, more trade and more manufacturing inspite of saas bhi kabhi bahu thi rhetoric.

US people will appreciate the straight talk that we will keep buying according to energy security/military needs. Don't give sermons on human rights thingy. Some thing has definitely changed as he point blanked told CAATSA is totally US problem to solve and its self inflected cut by US.

Whereas with CCP, we have seen how meek MEA has been. Its keep your enemies closer play IMO.

I am very optimistic that this will bode well both for both countries:
https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...modi-discusses-technology/article65298546.ece

"Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger meets PM Modi, discusses technology"

Unlikely so long DNC holds the house majority and WH. Even though 2022 November might see the house getting flipped, the puppet masters of Biden would remain the same and they are the same as the current DNC house.

We might see some improvement after 2024. But hoping for a pro-Indian view from the powermongers in US, is a little too much. Amy Wax was hosted by Tucker Carlson - host of Fox and a pro-Trumper. It gives you the look into what the Republicans thing about India.

India doesn't have a friend in USA. They may become partners on mutual ground of interests, but they can never be friends. But then being friend of USA is fatal.

Also, the largest drawback for India is that it can never match the flow if money that India's rival China's can push to the politicians. Heck, even ISI had better grip on the lobbying in US than India.

 

[Harry101]

Took this picture today. Just another normal day in Zoomerica. BTW this is one of the more conservative states.

 

[Shuturmurg]

Opinion | Putin’s Ukraine War Roils U.S.-India Ties

Policies that drive Russia closer to China and Pakistan aren’t in New Delhi’s interests.

www.wsj.com

First good article in US media that talks about Indian perspective. Wall street Journal is more centrist or center-right then other mainstream US publications.