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Umrica needs a strong leader a true patriot to the land who can keep the Jihadis, the ching chong pooh and the commies at bay and work at a grass root level and do something for the benefit of common umricans like bring gun laws etc.
Strong leader, patriot etc doesn't gel with gun laws(in the US). Nor can any President do it by himself, has to have congressional control.
In any case, it simply doesn't matter, there are too many guns out already and nothing will change the situation easily.
 

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Strong leader, patriot etc doesn't gel with gun laws(in the US). Nor can any President do it by himself, has to have congressional control.
In any case, it simply doesn't matter, there are too many guns out already and nothing will change the situation easily.
Its not easy..but its doable if there is a political will
 

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Umrica needs a strong leader a true patriot to the land who can keep the Jihadis, the ching chong pooh and the commies at bay and work at a grass root level and do something for the benefit of common umricans like bring gun laws etc.
That train had long left the station.

US hegemony has to be stalled. This unipolar concept not benificial for anyone.

Color revolutions, Regime changes, Installing puppet governments, threatening countries with CATSAA, exporting wokeism and all kind of debaucheries, living by so called "American exceptionalism", Killng of world leaders, invading defenseless countries, promoting Globalism.....and what not.

Why US has to be the Global Cop?

Breakdown of US is good for the entire planet.

USA is not a nation but a corporation who has its own varied interests and is run by a shadow Deep State, no matter whoever is the civilian President.
 

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As we know such statements could be to the placate the fringe elements with the Democrat regime.

However, in case they become uppity & have the audacity to raise such issues, i am sure that the MEA has a stinging procedure for responding to the same.

Such things can get into statements with vague pronouncements like:-

"Both India & US are committed to a free world upholding the rule of law, right to dissent blah" etc.

No harm in above.

Anything India specific will not be there in a written form, it * might * be conveyed during meetings vocally & at which point EAM can run his standard response.
We have one of the best Foreign ministers we could have hoped for. We are in good hands on that score atleast.

The issue will likely come up only in the press conference ( like it did with Gen.Austin) where some indian journalist is likely to do the dirty work. There may be some briefing for the American journalists post the meetings wherein it will be mentioned as having been brought up. I don't think the Americans will go full retard over this because after the experience with the Chinese in their meeting , they will be wary of going frontal on this issue. Modi has won more votes than the last half a dozen US Presidents combined. No matter what the loonies like to believe, the Americans will be aware of thar and will be circumspect in public.
 

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Its not easy..but its doable if there is a political will
Not doable at all. Almost all talk on this is posturing for the respective constituencies, the weapons are already out there and there's no way people will surrender their weapons to any government when they have the 2nd amendment specifically put in to allow people to arm themselves.

To me, its simply mad but it is what it is.
 

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As we know such statements could be to the placate the fringe elements with the Democrat regime.

However, in case they become uppity & have the audacity to raise such issues, i am sure that the MEA has a stinging procedure for responding to the same.

Such things can get into statements with vague pronouncements like:-

"Both India & US are committed to a free world upholding the rule of law, right to dissent blah" etc.

No harm in above.

Anything India specific will not be there in a written form, it * might * be conveyed during meetings vocally & at which point EAM can run his standard response.

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Now what we really need to be concerned is below:-


‘Who is running the country?’: Series of bizarre comments by US President Joe Biden sparks further concerns about his deteriorating mental health

While the US media continues to fawn over him and pamper him with soft questions, a series of incongruous comments have only served to fuel suspicions about Joe Biden's deteriorating mental health.






As citizens of the free world & American allies, we Indians are really worried about the health of POTUS. I hope EAM raises this with the Americans. Image that this is the status of the person who has his hands on the largest nuke arsenal in the world, in addition to other disruptive weaponry.

We are also concerned about systemic racism, denial of medial services to ethnic minorities, tech monopoly & general environment of enmity to dissent against the Biden regime. Recently the capitol police were given some more rights, this is concerning.

We are also concerned with Biden approval to go ahead with the bombing of Somalia, one of the poorest countries on the planet.

There are also allegation of corruption against the Biden family

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All is not right in the VP office as well:-


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Guess that the magic of Pappadams & paneer is fading.
Regarding Pegasus, Amnesty International had already mentioned that the media had misquoted them.

Now read below:-


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We know that a faction of the democrats have links with BDS.

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There were some murmurs/rumors of EAM being "mistreated" when he was in USA. It varied from officials not turning up in time to meet him to human rights/Hindoo nationalism lectures. But i am taking an informed guess that with a top line up of officials set to visit India, this is false. Besides the new ambassador Eric's credential's would be in trouble.
 

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Regarding Pegasus, Amnesty International had already mentioned that the media had misquoted them.

Now read below:-


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We know that a faction of the democrats have links with BDS.

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There were some murmurs/rumors of EAM being "mistreated" when he was in USA. It varied from officials not turning up in time to meet him to human rights/Hindoo nationalism lectures. But i am taking an informed guess that with a top line up of officials set to visit India, this is false. Besides the new ambassador Eric's credential's would be in trouble.
The developments in the USA are really worrying. The world needs to act & stop it's slide to authoritarianism. After banning the POTUS from the Internet they are snooping on a well known & famous media celebrity & dissenter Tucker Carlson. He was allegedly snooped by the all powerful pro establishment NSA.


Global media looks away as Biden’s NSA “unmasks” dissenting right wing journalist Tucker Carlson

A few weeks ago, Fox News’ Tucker Carlson, the highest rated news anchor in America and an outspoken critic of President Biden, claimed that the NSA had been monitoring his communications.

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Ofc. words such as "spying" or "snooping" are reserved for third world countries. First worlders would like to use more civilized words like "unmasking".

This snooping & constant harassment of political commentators who criticize the Biden regime is really worrisome.

In another shocking incident, the FBI helped instigate plot to kidnap Michigan Governor, framed Trump supporters as US establishment prepares for domestic war on terror.


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It is worrisome to note that the organs of the US state like FBI & NSA are being used to stifle political dissent.

What is more worrisome is the lack of a civil society in America that talks power to the Biden regime.

I hope our EAM decides to note the above points in case some one might get uppity.
 

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The developments in the USA are really worrying. The world needs to act & stop it's slide to authoritarianism. After banning the POTUS from the Internet they are snooping on a well known & famous media celebrity & dissenter Tucker Carlson. He was allegedly snooped by the all powerful pro establishment NSA.


Global media looks away as Biden’s NSA “unmasks” dissenting right wing journalist Tucker Carlson

A few weeks ago, Fox News’ Tucker Carlson, the highest rated news anchor in America and an outspoken critic of President Biden, claimed that the NSA had been monitoring his communications.

View attachment 101814

Ofc. words such as "spying" or "snooping" are reserved for third world countries. First worlders would like to use more civilized words like "unmasking".

This snooping & constant harassment of political commentators who criticize the Biden regime is really worrisome.

In another shocking incident, the FBI helped instigate plot to kidnap Michigan Governor, framed Trump supporters as US establishment prepares for domestic war on terror.


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It is worrisome to note that the organs of the US state like FBI & NSA are being used to stifle political dissent.

What is more worrisome is the lack of a civil society in America that talks power to the Biden regime.

I hope our EAM decides to note the above points in case some one might get uppity.
India's push-back:-


India pushes back against US human rights discourse

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Looks like babooze balls or MEA balls got bigger by a millimeter

Incoming coconut butt-hurt.....

Also let's not forget the draconian FISA act & the BJP/Indian government was marked for surveillance post 2014 as alleged by Snowden documents.

American's have a lot of Human rights abuse burden to carry. They can walk their talk.
 
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"The United States supports India’s emergence as a leading global power and vital partner in efforts to ensure that the Indo-Pacific is a region of peace, stability, and growing prosperity and economic inclusion."

 

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That train had long left the station.

US hegemony has to be stalled. This unipolar concept not benificial for anyone.

Color revolutions, Regime changes, Installing puppet governments, threatening countries with CATSAA, exporting wokeism and all kind of debaucheries, living by so called "American exceptionalism", Killng of world leaders, invading defenseless countries, promoting Globalism.....and what not.

Why US has to be the Global Cop?

Breakdown of US is good for the entire planet.

USA is not a nation but a corporation who has its own varied interests and is run by a shadow Deep State, no matter whoever is the civilian President.

More people and countries got out of poverty during America's unipolar supremacy than at any time in the modern age.

A return to bipolar stalemate will slow down momentum due to constant balancing and mutual hampering while a return to multipolar era will only mean chaos, more wars and a potential nuclear war between smaller nuclear powers.
 

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A return to bipolar stalemate will slow down momentum due to constant balancing and mutual hampering while a return to multipolar era will only mean chaos, more wars and a potential nuclear war between smaller nuclear powers.
I might have agreed with you about the world being better off with the US being an undisputed superpower but the new woke US has that much less appeal.

In any case, this is no longer a matter of choice, the world is what it is and will be what it will be. I’m happie with the US being the premier power rather than China but only just. I do look at this from an Indian point of view, I’m sure others will have a different take depending on where they are.
 

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Common excuse given by coconuts to cover up for their idelogical biases against Indian Govt.

Issues is not with what is being said by XYZ in DC, issue is with how much of what is being said in DC has very little to do with facts on ground. deliberate under representation of people in DC who can clarify India Govt's point of view is an issue.

if coconuts have a fear being cancelled in their fraternity if they adopt neutrality in discourse, is their own personal problem. But assuming others are blind to notice over whelming odds against India in DC think tank crowd is rude, patronizing, arrogant, and abrasive.
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Someone says "there's concern among some in DC re Delhi doing X"
Reax from some in India: "how dare u say so, horrible India hater!!"
Tip: don't shoot the messenger telling u what ppl are saying. If u only get told what u want to hear, u'll misread others like China often does

 
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Will Blinken keep his job after defying Dhume’s orders? Will Dhume blink & give Blinken another chance or will he appoint Tinku as the next US secretary of state so that Modi can be fixed for good? Lot of drama unfolding in DC. Watch this space for more such insightful analysis



Blinken wearing black suit to register his disapproval of Modi Govt. This was a calibrated move after long and deep consultations held in DC per a state dept official. This is a clear indicator that sanctions will follow according to my sources in DC.

 

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Will Blinken keep his job after defying Dhume’s orders? Will Dhume blink & give Blinken another chance or will he appoint Tinku as the next US secretary of state so that Modi can be fixed for good? Lot of drama unfolding in DC. Watch this space for more such insightful analysis



Blinken wearing black suit to register his disapproval of Modi Govt. This was a calibrated move after long and deep consultations held in DC per a state dept official. This is a clear indicator that sanctions will follow according to my sources in DC.

Also, Blinken has noticed that Modi is wearing a brown coat. And we all know that it was Adolf Hitler who also used to wear a brown coat. After consultations with the NSA, CIA and other intelligence services of the USA, the United States has successfully cracked the mystery. It is a horrifying one, a mind-numbing sentence of only three words but those which will shock people to their core.

Mudi is Phascist.

And hence PedoJoe has advised Blinken to immediately read Modi the Riot Act and sever ties with India. You heard it here first, folks. Don't blame the Messenger, we are definitely not Anti-India.
 

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Neolib and Neocon foreign policy differs slightly on China. Neolibs have basically accepted that US hegemony is going to end, (in fact to Globalists like Obama this is a good thing cuz it's reversing the evils of imperialism/colonialism and white supremacy or something), and that we're soon going to see a multi-polar world with China and the US having their own spheres of influence, with Russia and the EU kind of going independent.

Neocons on the other hand haven't given up, they're just too tied down/incompetent to do anything about it. Tied down meaning wall street doesn't want to upset business ties with China (huge market/cheap labor for manufacturing), and incompetent meaning...well I've spoken enough about this.

This leaves India with two options, embrace the US, meaning accept globalism/wokeness and multiculturalism, reject Hindu nationalism and "facism". Blinken setting the stage to beef with Modi is a prelude to this. They won't force the same on the Muslim world, because they know Muzzies aren't capable of having that kind of empathy for minorities, but India has enough naive leftist retards to actually fall for it. This also entails allowing the US to build military bases and whatever else they want. This will allow greater resistance to China's expansionist behavior and Pakistan, because US and China won't completely get along even if they tolerate each other's regional dominance, and US will protect countries that they are invested in.

The other option is to submit to China, meaning allow CPEC to go forward. Allow the Chinese to pour enough money into Pakistan to prevent them from completely becoming a failed state (even the Chinese won't be able to do more for Pakistan than keep them on life support), and tolerate all of Pakistan's bullshit, even a second 8/11 attack. Also tolerate China's BS with Ladakh and Arunchal etc. In exchange, India can at least be a Hindu nationalist nation. Porks will spazz about Kashmir every once in a while but the Chinese won't give a damn about "hooman rights" or whatever.

Trump's nationalism actually provided a third and best option. He was against Pakistan because he realized what they were and didn't give a fuck about being Islamophobic or getting along with "our allies", he stood up to China (initially) in a real way (the trade war) and didn't virtue signal about Modi and tolerance, but the establishment will never allow a right-wing populist to take power in the US again.
 

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The other option is to submit to China, meaning allow CPEC to go forward. Allow the Chinese to pour enough money into Pakistan to prevent them from completely becoming a failed state (even the Chinese won't be able to do more for Pakistan than keep them on life support), and tolerate all of Pakistan's bullshit, even a second 8/11 attack. Also tolerate China's BS with Ladakh and Arunchal etc. In exchange, India can at least be a Hindu nationalist nation. Porks will spazz about Kashmir every once in a while but the Chinese won't give a damn about "hooman rights" or whatever.
That is a funny claim. How can US disallow the Chinese to invest in Pakistan? Starting a war in Pakistan or providing her own investment as an alternative? None is feasible.

US doesn't give a damn about Chinese and Pakistan's BS, neither India's BS.

Currently they want India to fight against China, doesn't mean they give up Pakistan.

Trump's nationalism actually provided a third and best option. He was against Pakistan because he realized what they were and didn't give a fuck about being Islamophobic or getting along with "our allies", he stood up to China (initially) in a real way (the trade war) and didn't virtue signal about Modi and tolerance, but the establishment will never allow a right-wing populist to take power in the US again.
This is naive.
The fact is US' anti-terrorism war is over. For the time being, they don't need Pakistan that much. They are quite happy to see Chinese replacing them as Pakistan's top one supporter: not only reduce their burden, but also increase Sino-India friction. Double win for them.
 

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That is a funny claim. How can US disallow the Chinese to invest in Pakistan? Starting a war in Pakistan or providing her own investment as an alternative? None is feasible.

US doesn't give a damn about Chinese and Pakistan's BS, neither India's BS.

Currently they want India to fight against China, doesn't mean they give up Pakistan.



This is naive.
The fact is US' anti-terrorism war is over. For the time being, they don't need Pakistan that much. They are quite happy to see Chinese replacing them as Pakistan's top one supporter: not only reduce their burden, but also increase Sino-India friction. Double win for them.
I meant India allow China to invest in Pakistan (as in not fund BLA or mess with CPEC).
US cares to a certain extent about China and Pakistan actually. The neocons want to stop the CPEC pipeline, but neolibs believe that whole mentality is futile.

What is naive about Saying Trump's right-wing populism was the best for India? What was incorrect about what I said?

And you are right, US doesn't need Pakistan anymore, but what future use do they have for Pakistan? Just to make India more mad at China via baiting China into supporting Pakistan?
 

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Good article


Antony Blinken Visited New Delhi, And Brought Some Reality Checks With Him

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Expectations of coconuts:-

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Then reality strikes:-

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What happened in 2015, Barrack Hussian Obomber:-

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It's a step in the right direction. Obama's was insufferably self-righteous, idealistic and naive. He sincerely believed he could goad India into forgiving all of Pork's bullshit for the sake of greater peace and unity (though didn't try to tell Porks the same because even he can see how futile that is, that's how obvious their inability to be human is) He thought that every non-white nation in the world would suck his cock because of muh POC solidarity. Hilarious when Kamala thought the same thing when she went to Guatamala only to get roasted.
 
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Biden nominates Indian-American Rashad Hussain as first Muslim Ambassador for religious freedom

US President Joe Biden has nominated Indian-American attorney Rashad Hussain as the Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom, the first Muslim to be nominated to the key position, according to the White House. Hussain, 41, is currently Director for Partnerships and Global Engagement at the National Security Council.


now what is this shit storm white house is brewing with an islamic cocktail against India. The keyword is `indian American`
 

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