India US Relations

[shade]

Good for them. They did the wise thing. Of course, not all Indians/ethnic Indians experience such incidents, but it's noticeable enough. Just think a little before salivating about the H-1B visa or green card. That's all that can be asked for. Many Indians seem incapable or unwilling do even that, in their goggle eyed desire to migrate to the US.

The lust to get into the Land of the Gun and Home of the Gay is such that they will hand wave all this as "it only happens to a statistical minority" etc

 

[treesspeakvietnamese]

 

[Tshering22]

India I think certainly does some low level work in developed countries- case in point the Sikh couple arrested in Germany for spying on of the German immigration office on behalf of the Raw.
But chances of netting a high level asset are very low. Meanwhile it is easy for western agencies to net a high level asset in India.

RAW needs to find a net balance between compensating assets and them having a fanaticism towards the nation's security.

The typical attitude of the Indian govt is scrimping on cash and that's what makes other agencies get the best of us. CIA contractors go nuts in foreign countries without any limits (though CIA has plausible deniability as a weapon). However, the babu-ist mentality that comes with IAS morons in and around PMO's operations (including to some extent in RAW), makes it difficult to shake it off.

RAW needs an absolute, cold, ruthless, and ideological focus that Mossad, ISI, CIA and KGB have.

For starters, acquire companies & assets through shady deals and create a massive funding mechanism (which I was only guessing in my previous post). Secondly, once the mission is accomplished, let the asset go nuts in ensuring that they can get compensated with whatever they want. Who the fuck cares what they do as long as they are not a threat to our nation? Thirdly, grab these industrialists and ask them to open new companies overseas and have RAW agents operate in them as board directors etc. that have controlling stake and strategic vision.

 

[Kumata]

Seems like he wants to be the first president to die in office.How much more damage does this clown intends to do.... Anyways eleven will be happy...seeing the throne...

 

[Kumaoni]

U.S. Intel Helped India Rout China in 2022 Border Clash: Sources

India was able to repel a Chinese military incursion in contested border territory in the high Himalayas late last year due to unprecedented intelligence-sharing with the U.S. military, U.S. News has learned, an act that caught China’s People’s Liberation Army forces off-guard, enraged Beijing and appears to have forced the Chinese Communist Party to reconsider its approach to land grabs along its borders.

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Several current and former analysts and officials, some speaking on the condition of anonymity, confirmed details of the encounter as well as the American role, to include unprecedented support the U.S. military provided to India on the ground – the fruits of a new era of cooperation between the two powers in recognition of their shared ambitions to push back on Chinese expansionism.

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The source familiar with the assessment of this intelligence – deemed to be highly reliable – says the U.S. government in the weeks before the encounter was fully cognizant that China was carrying out test exercises in the region to see if it could seize a new foothold in the remote mountain passes there or in other territory to which both China and India lay claim.

Several hundred PLA troops operating on the Chinese side planned to see if they could move forward and stay along the part of the border that is not officially demarcated as they have done in the past, most notably in 2020 in the Galwan Valley, several thousand miles to the west, the last time the two militaries clashed. That brawl caused a dozen or more deaths on both sides.

But unlike the previous encounters, the Indian forces identified the Chinese positions using the intelligence provided by the U.S. and maneuvered to intercept them.

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“This will definitely rattle the Chinese because they will have not experienced this before, and they perhaps had a sense of superiority that they were able to do this with different skirmishes in the past,” the source says. “This time they did not hold the advantage like they did before.”

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2023-03-20/u-s-intel-helped-india-rout-china-in-2022-border-clash-sources

Nice propaganda in order to discredit Indian intelligence and military awareness.

 

[Cheran]

Applicable to the geo political as well as the political thread.

 

[Shuturmurg]

Not exactly related to thread, but looks like US might place nukes in South Korea to deter their nuclear program.

 

[ezsasa]

Not exactly related to thread, but looks like US might place nukes in South Korea to deter their nuclear program.

this thread perhaps

USA China Cold War

USA China cold war is on. With 100000 + us deaths due to coronavirus. ( Probably will cross world war 1 death toll USA.) USA and china are now decoupling. A huge invent just as ground backing as death of soviet union and end of world war 2. So this is a dedicated thread to see actions and...

defenceforumindia.com

 

[Tshering22]

Seems like he wants to be the first president to die in office.How much more damage does this clown intends to do.... Anyways eleven will be happy...seeing the throne...

Donald Trump is coming back if at all the American deep state allows a proper election. Otherwise, they might use some outrageous claims of Russian invasion or Chinese invasion of the US mainland and suspend elections indefinitely.

Republicans will most likely win the 2024 elections. I pray that PM Modiji stands tall to welcome Trump back as a state guest in 2025 Republic Day Parade.

Indo-US ties could definitely use a regime change in Washington DC.

 

[karn]

Donald Trump is coming back if at all the American deep state allows a proper election. Otherwise, they might use some outrageous claims of Russian invasion or Chinese invasion of the US mainland and suspend elections indefinitely.

Republicans will most likely win the 2024 elections. I pray that PM Modiji stands tall to welcome Trump back as a state guest in 2025 Republic Day Parade.

Indo-US ties could definitely use a regime change in Washington DC.

That will only happen if trump purges their state department.

 

[Shuturmurg]

Donald Trump is coming back if at all the American deep state allows a proper election. Otherwise, they might use some outrageous claims of Russian invasion or Chinese invasion of the US mainland and suspend elections indefinitely.

Republicans will most likely win the 2024 elections. I pray that PM Modiji stands tall to welcome Trump back as a state guest in 2025 Republic Day Parade.

Indo-US ties could definitely use a regime change in Washington DC.

He won't win. Dude has pissed off too many constituencies. Most consequential one of them is suburban well to do center right white women.

His fans are super hardcore, but there are even more people that him, specially after January 6th insurrection.

 

[ezsasa]

This twitter thread is lit.. scarry if true... we have whole world converging in SCS... 3 CBG...

use this thread

USA China Cold War

USA China cold war is on. With 100000 + us deaths due to coronavirus. ( Probably will cross world war 1 death toll USA.) USA and china are now decoupling. A huge invent just as ground backing as death of soviet union and end of world war 2. So this is a dedicated thread to see actions and...

defenceforumindia.com

 

[shade]

This is not exactly the right place to post this, but in this surprisingly informative article from the (((Guardian))) explains how MBS grabbed power from the CIA backed (((chosen successor))) to the current Sultan in Saudiyya.

‘The Godfather, Saudi-style’: inside the palace coup that brought MBS to power

The long read: Not long ago, Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, Mohammed bin Nayef, was all set to assume power. But his ambitious young cousin had a ruthless plan to seize control for himself

www.theguardian.com

It is also why star-spangled asses are permanently enflamed at this guy still living and breathing in Saudi, inspite of him pushing the Western social agenda of liberalization.

 

[Tshering22]

He won't win. Dude has pissed off too many constituencies. Most consequential one of them is suburban well to do center right white women.

His fans are super hardcore, but there are even more people that him, specially after January 6th insurrection.

Republicans are the other side of the same coin. But Trump.. is different. For all his antics, he's actually been a positive effect on the international relations of the United States. The man achieved the impossible with Abraham Accords. The man spoke to the fat Kims personally. He put US embassy firmly in Jerusalem, tried normalizing ties with Russia - stuff other POTUSs would poop bricks in doing.

That's why he is needed there.

 

[skunk works]

use this thread

USA China Cold War

USA China cold war is on. With 100000 + us deaths due to coronavirus. ( Probably will cross world war 1 death toll USA.) USA and china are now decoupling. A huge invent just as ground backing as death of soviet union and end of world war 2. So this is a dedicated thread to see actions and...

defenceforumindia.com

Add a bunch of unseen Akulas and Delta IV's.

Interesting there's no presence of RN and German Navy (who specifically touted an Asian presence.)

 

[Wisemarko]

Response to next NYT/BBC article on “freedom in danger elsewhere”

 

[Jimih]

Yankees seething on why India can't be vassal state and follow "Rules Based Order" (American Empire order)

 

[ezsasa]

Yankees seething on why India can't be vassal state and follow "Rules Based Order" (American Empire order)


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ashley was born in mumbai, and his conclusion is correct. GoI does not intend to get involved in SCS, but if chini poke us on our border, Indian military will respond alone if necessary.

 

[Jimih]

ashley was born in mumbai, and his conclusion is correct. GoI does not intend to get involved in SCS, but if chini poke us on our border, Indian military will respond alone if necessary.

You can read the whole article here

America’s Bad Bet on India

New Delhi won’t side with Washington against Beijing.

www.foreignaffairs.com

 

[ezsasa]

You can read the whole article here

America’s Bad Bet on India

New Delhi won’t side with Washington against Beijing.

www.foreignaffairs.com

yup, was expecting something from him.

he was trying to find the appropriate framing of this view in this discussion. don't recall exact time stamp.

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