India Takes First Step Towards Indus Water Treaty Withdrawal

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When is the action going to commence or is this just a threat? It needs to start right away as it would take years to divert water or even build capacities for storage for further distribution of water into Punjab and J&K.

The Kashmir issue is just a facade for Pakistan. It's the waters that flow from there into Pakistan which is the objective. All this crap about heeding to the 'wishes of the Kashmiri people' etc is complete bullshit. The Porkis care a damn about them. It's the waters they're after.
 

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When is the action going to commence or is this just a threat? It needs to start right away as it would take years to divert water or even build capacities for storage for further distribution of water into Punjab and J&K.

The Kashmir issue is just a facade for Pakistan. It's the waters that flow from there into Pakistan which is the objective. All this crap about heeding to the 'wishes of the Kashmiri people' etc is complete bullshit. The Porkis care a damn about them. It's the waters they're after.
You can't just start digging and build a dam.Prep work needs to be done.
 

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India plans to make most of its share of water under Indus pact with Pakistan

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  • Execution of Sawalkot project is expected to start early next year
  • The Sawalkot project envisages a 193-meter-high dam on Chenab for generating 1,856 MW
  • The under-construction Pakal Dul project has already received an impetus after the government displayed an urgency to complete it on time


NEW DELHI: India has set in motion its ambitious plan to utilise its share of water from western tributaries of the Indus, a decision driven by India-Pakistan geopolitics, which may see work begin on a major hydel project on the Chenab early next year. It is a long haul to implement PM Narendra Modi's September 27 decision to review water use within the ambit of the Indus Water Treaty (IWT) with Pakistan, but the government has prioritised three hydel projects on Chenab and its tributary —Sawalkot (1,856 MW), Pakal Dul (1,000 MW) and Bursar (800 MW) —in a time-bound manner.

Building infrastructure on Indus, Chenab, Jhelum and their tributaries is a huge task but the short-listed projects are intended to express India's political will and preparedness to respond to Pakistan's use of terrorism against India with every option at its command including a new preparedness to use all possible leverage points.

"The Centre has constantly been in touch with Jammu & Kashmir government for all necessary ground work. Execution of Sawalkot project is expected to start early next year. The under-construction Pakal Dul project has already received an impetus after the government displayed an urgency to complete it on time," said an official.

The Sawalkot project envisages a 193-meter-high dam on Chenab for generating 1,856 MW. It will be constructed in two phases. Since 629 families consisting of 4,400 individuals are likely to be displaced, the state government has been working on a proper rehabilitation plan before actual work begins. The Bursar project will, however, take time before it gets clearances.

"Since NHPC had initially termed it an unviable project on certain grounds, there is need for proper study before the government goes ahead with it. The project may be tweaked to make it viable as it is now our priority area," said the official. As previous cost and viability calculations are revised in view of the political imperative, India could be looking to use as much of Indus water as it can. "Maximising use of water must be priority. It is good that the government has sincerely moved to execute pending projects to legitimately use its share of water within IWT. This is the most realistic option well within the framework of the treaty," said Uttam Sinha of the Institute of Defence Studies and Analyses (IDSA).


Towards this end, speeding up pending hydro-power projects is only one component of what India can do to utilise its share of water under the IWT. Under the 1960 treaty, India is permitted to construct storage capacities on the western rivers up to 3.6 million acre feet (MAF) for various purpose including domestic use.

India has, so far, not developed any storage facility or tapped its full quota of water for irrigation. Referring to the World Bank's recent decision to set up a Court of Arbitration (CoA) to settle disputes relating to Kishanganga and Ratle hydro projects on Pakistan's demand, Sinha said India should forcefully tell the Bank to factor in technological changes and new knowledge while looking at the implementation of ongoing projects.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s-pact-with-Pakistan/articleshow/55918158.cms
 

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INDIA'S WATERS CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO FLOW INTO PAK: PM NARENDRA MODI ON INDUS ROW


Prime Minister Narendra Modi speaking at an event in Punjab's Bhatinda

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indi...nto-pak-pm-narendra-modi-on-indus-row-1630060
finally we have a PM with the guts to say that

i believe he will get the job done - it's gonna take a feat of engineering
and our people will gain a lot of tech know how from the projects !
If it takes about 7 years that's great

save some of those fingers for when some UN experts tell us to share with packland

the last time our JNeh went to UN about kashmir the result is the mess we have till today ..,this time when we negotiation with anyone esp+ pak or UN dont put on JN's Santa Claus uniform .... i think we've learned by now

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I wonder how long these projects would take to become operational?

(Hafiz Saeed and his ilk must be running around like hens in a pigsty wondering what to do next!! :scared2: )
 

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I wonder how long these projects would take to become operational?

(Hafiz Saeed and his ilk must be running around like hens in a pigsty wondering what to do next!! :scared2: )
Atleast 4-5 years...........................
 

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If India is trying to withdraw from water treaty, she will leave Pakistan no option but war.
What will war bring to others? Huge purchase order!!
There is nothing better than a war between two countries on saving everyone else.

The war itself will create demand to military equipment!
The rebuilding after the war will create huge demand on civilian goods!

Everyone will thank you.
Charity begins at home. How about stopping construction on Brahmaputra River? If China continues diverting Brahmaputra River, it will leave us no option but war. Why do you want war? Dont try to establish your Han superiority.
 

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It is a long haul to implement PM Narendra Modi's September 27 decision to review water use within the ambit of the Indus Water Treaty (IWT) with Pakistan, but the government has prioritised three hydel projects on Chenab and its tributary —Sawalkot (1,856 MW), Pakal Dul (1,000 MW) and Bursar (800 MW) —in a time-bound manner.
If TOI is trying to say that these dams are being fast tracked due to PM's objective of using our rightful waters, they are wrong.

All 3 are on the Chenab - pakistan's waters. While India cannot build large capacity storage or divert waters from the Chenab, iirc the IWT allows India to use a small volume of the waters from the 3 western rivers (Chenab, Jhelum, Indus). Accordingly Sawalkot & PD are run of the river facilities, for power generation only. Bursar will have a storage facility which presumably falls within that allowable capacity. All 3 are great for Kashmir but no up-yours to pakiland.

Unless of course there is a chanakian design in the dams which india can switch on when needed:cool1:

To really put the screws on pakiland within the IWT we need to use 100% of the waters of the eastern rivers. Unfortunately I don't see any major projects coming up on the eastern rivers. Hydel projects need to be fast tracked here. Standing at the IB pakis should see only dry river beds on their side.
 

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http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/...rrigation-projects-in-indus-basin/231663.html

Amid growing strain in Indo-Pak ties, the central government is planning to fast-track four projects in Indus river basin to increase irrigation area in Jammu and Kashmir by nearly 2.05 lakh acre, weeks after India decided to "exploit to the maximum" the water of Pakistan-controlled rivers, including Jhelum, as per Indus Water Treaty (IWT).

Prime Minister Narendra Modi had last month chaired a meeting to review the 56-year-old IWT in the aftermath of the Uri attack, asserting that "blood and water cannot flow together."

Of these four projects, three—Tral Irrigation Project in Pulwama, Prakachik Khows Canal in Kargil and restoration and modernisation of main Ravi Canal in Jammu's Sambha and Kathua—are expected to be completed by this fiscal. The fourth project of Rajpora Lift Irrigation is planned to be completed by December 2019.

While the first three projects will help irrigate around 1.45 lakh acres of land. The Rajpora Lift Irrigation is expected to help irrigat around 59,305 acres of land.

All these works are expected to cost Rs 117 crore for which money will be raised by National Bank for Agriculture and Rural Development (NABARD).


"Until now, as per the J&K records, seven lakh acres of land is irrigated in the state. This is a very small number. So, the government is trying to complete work on these projects to increase the size of total irrigated area in the state," sources said.

The sources said technically India can irrigate up to 13 lakh acres of land in Jammu and Kashmir. This target, they said, can be achieved when optimum storage capacity is achieved in the state.

"The projects are being developed well within rights of India and in no way will affect flow of water to Pakistan," they said.

Taking a tough stand in the aftermath of Uri attack, the government had on September 27 decided to "exploit to the maximum" water of Pakistan- controlled three Western rivers—Indus, Chenab and Jhelum—as per the IWT at the review meeting headed by Modi.

It was also decided to set up an inter-ministerial task forces to go into the details and working of the Treaty with a "sense of urgency" apart from agreeing to review the "unilateral suspension" of 1987 Tulbul navigation project in 2007 by India.

However, sources maintained that the projects were part of government's efforts to irrigate larger swaths across the country by completing small/medium 99 irrigation projects under ambitious Pradhan Mantri Krishi Sinchayee Yojana (PMKYS) and Accelerated Irrigation Benefits Programme (AIBP) and have nothing to do with the Uri incident and “aggression” along LoC. "These (projects) were already worked out. But we do want to bring optimum land under irrigated area as per the deadlines worked out," they said.

Asked if the tense situation in the state, especially after the killing of Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani and ensuing protests, has affected pace of the works, the sources said, "The deadline may vary here and there a little. But the government hopes to complete the project works on time."

The Central Government had launched the PMKYS last year with an aim to enhance physical access to water on farm and expand cultivable area under assured irrigation, improve on-farm water use efficiency, introduce sustainable water conservation practices, etc through major and minor irrigation projects.

The AIBP was launched in 1996-97 to provide central assistance to major/minor irrigation projects in the country with an objective to accelerate implementation of such programmes. Since its inception, 143 projects have been completed under AIBP.
 

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http://arynews.tv/en/world-bank-suspends-arbitration-over-indus-water-treaty-issues/

NEW YORK: World Bank has suspended its role of arbitration to resolve the Indus Water Treaty issues between Pakistan and India over the matter of two dam projects being constructed by India to give them a chance to seek an alternate solution, ARY News reported on Tuesday.

A statement issued by the institution said that the decision has been made to give the two countries an opportunity to come up with an alternative solution to their problem in accordance with the Indus Water Treaty by January 2017.

The suspension will affect Pakistan’s request to the World Bank for appointing a chairman of the court of arbitration as well as India’s request for the appointment of a neutral expert.

President of World Bank Jim Yong Kim said that the decision has been taken to keep the treaty more feasible.

He expressed his optimism that Pakistan and India will reach to a decision over the issues by January 2017. He urged the two countries to resolve the issue by themselves.

Indus Water Treaty deals with the water distribution and sharing of the six rivers of the Indus basin including three eastern rivers Beas, Sutlej, Ravi and the three western rivers Jhelum, Chenab and Indus. The World Bank had brokered the agreement and have a role in dispute resolution.

India has violated the treaty twice by constructing two hydroelectric power plants named ‘Kishenganga’ and ‘Ratle’ on Neelum and Chenab rivers.

In September, a delegation led by Pakistan’s Attorney General Ashtar Ausaf Ali met senior officials of World Bank at its headquarters in the United States and urged them to intervene and stop Indian hydroelectric projects on the two rivers.
 

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http://arynews.tv/en/world-bank-suspends-arbitration-over-indus-water-treaty-issues/

NEW YORK: World Bank has suspended its role of arbitration to resolve the Indus Water Treaty issues between Pakistan and India over the matter of two dam projects being constructed by India to give them a chance to seek an alternate solution, ARY News reported on Tuesday.

A statement issued by the institution said that the decision has been made to give the two countries an opportunity to come up with an alternative solution to their problem in accordance with the Indus Water Treaty by January 2017.

The suspension will affect Pakistan’s request to the World Bank for appointing a chairman of the court of arbitration as well as India’s request for the appointment of a neutral expert.

President of World Bank Jim Yong Kim said that the decision has been taken to keep the treaty more feasible.

He expressed his optimism that Pakistan and India will reach to a decision over the issues by January 2017. He urged the two countries to resolve the issue by themselves.

Indus Water Treaty deals with the water distribution and sharing of the six rivers of the Indus basin including three eastern rivers Beas, Sutlej, Ravi and the three western rivers Jhelum, Chenab and Indus. The World Bank had brokered the agreement and have a role in dispute resolution.

India has violated the treaty twice by constructing two hydroelectric power plants named ‘Kishenganga’ and ‘Ratle’ on Neelum and Chenab rivers.

In September, a delegation led by Pakistan’s Attorney General Ashtar Ausaf Ali met senior officials of World Bank at its headquarters in the United States and urged them to intervene and stop Indian hydroelectric projects on the two rivers.
So we are go to boot this pice of waste paper treaty and use the indus
 

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2 things need to go in Kashmir immediately: UNMOGIP and the role of WB in the IWT.

Think China - they would never have allowed any international body to meddle in their internal affairs or be present on their soil.

Our MEA needs to seriously up their game. The Nehru chachacha mentality still runs deep within. It's time to breakout and chart a course that puts our interests first.
 

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Because China can f#*k us up, that's why.
They are an upper riparian state which gives them a distinct advantage over us.
They are going to fcuk India either way. They have take an adversarial position for last 60 years. But India has not noticed. Brahmaputra waters have been stolen by China


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irrigation system created by british went entirely to pakistan but still they fucked it and don't have storage facility

world bank can't do nothing :


India is allowed to create storage facility up to 3.6MAF on western rivers, till date India has created zero storage facility and it is start of screwing up of neighbours agriculturein next 4-5 years completely
 

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