India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

[garg_bharat]

Whyyyyy.... we is killing crows only..
why gafoora should cry like deescalation for killing crows!

Gafoora is loving it. Once more.

 

[sorcerer]

Gafoora is loving it. Once more.

Gafoora is now the victim of foot in the mouth syndrome...and because of his incompetence in choosing right words...monkey Gafoora has dragged whole pakistan into a creek like the paki navy now

 

[Shashank Nayak]

I don't think he is. He just trusts the "source" more than the relatively simple logic of "US is not too happy with Pakistan and vice versa."

Let's wait for IDRW or defencenews.in to write an article about it and someone to post it here. Then we can have intellectual err... emotional discussion about the betrayal of America or Russia or whatever.

And the best part is "Pakis' evaluating S-400 and trying to buy THAAD." That's a bit rich for a country like Pakistan. Pakistan is more like a scavenger that uses whatever weapons the world throws at it. It is not in a position to be choosy...

 

[Shiv sagar]

I don't think he is. He just trusts the "source" more than the relatively simple logic of "US is not too happy with Pakistan and vice versa."

Let's wait for IDRW or defencenews.in to write an article about it and someone to post it here. Then we can have intellectual err... emotional discussion about the betrayal of America or Russia or whatever.

Man it was pure sarcasm....nothing more. US of A is not even giving them spares of f16 and pakis on the other hand struggling to buy fuel of f16 and THAAD...boy o boy...

 

[sthf]

Man it was pure sarcasm....nothing more. US of A is not even giving them spares of f16 and pakis on the other hand struggling to buy fuel of f16 and THAAD...boy o boy...

Sorry mate. You need to work on your sarcasm muscles.

 

[sthf]

Next in their sights: Why India should be extremely wary of American Islamism
Anti-Indian and pro-Kashmiri separatist activism in the US has previously been linked to Pakistani intelligence agencies. But analysts may now be overlooking the role of American Islamist movements.



A few weeks ago, the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) held its annual conference in Washington D.C. Organised in conjunction with the Muslim American Society, it is one of the largest events in the American Muslim calendar.

But the ICNA and the MAS are not ordinary Muslim organisations — they are Islamist groups. While both ICNA and MAS claim to be moderate organisations, the long history of extremist speakers at their conferences betrays underlying radical ideologies. Among the many hardline clerics and radical activists, one of the speakers this year turned out to be the anti-Indian activist Ghulam Nabi Fai — who used his platform to denounce the Indian government’s “brutal activities” in Kashmir.

Conspicuously, Fai did not even mention the widely-reported murderous acts of Kashmiri terrorism that recently killed dozens of Indian troops.

Ghulam Nabi Fai denounced the Indian govt on Kashmir. He did not even mention the attack on Indian CRPF in Pulwama. (Photo: Reuters)

Fai was subject to widespread American media coverage in 2011, when he was charged by American prosecutors with secretly serving as an agent of the Pakistani government. Fai pleaded guilty, admitting to extensive contact with Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), which has a long history of involvement with terror groups and other Islamist causes. Up to 2011, prosecutors showed, the ISI apparently transferred an extraordinary $3.5 million to Fai and his organisation, the Kashmiri American Council — all, reportedly, in a covert attempt to influence American policy on Kashmir.

Following Fai’s arrest, the ICNA and several other American Islamist organisations published a statement expressing support for Fai and the Kashmiri people’s “peaceful struggle for self-determination.” Since his release, Fai has been something of a regular partner for ICNA, almost always speaking on the subject of Kashmir and the ostensible wickedness of the Indian government. He has frequently addressedICNA events and ‘webinars’, and his op-eds are featured on ICNA’s website.

So, why is an anti-Indian activist, associated with Pakistan’s ISI, spending so much time with some of American’s most prominent domestic Islamist activists?

As the Middle East Forum has extensively illustrated, ICNA is apparently a branch of Jamaat-e-Islami — that's reportedly a violent South Asian Islamist movement that is particularly active in Kashmir. While ICNA itself is not violent, it seemingly supports violent Islamist movements in both Pakistan and Kashmir.

In March, the Indian govt banned Jamaat in Kashmir. Here, Jamaat-e-Islami supporters are seen protesting in Pakistan. (Photo: Reuters)

ICNA’s international aid charity, Helping Hand for Relief and Development (HHRD), for example, funds and partners with Jamaat-e-Islami’s welfare arm, Al Khidmat Foundation, whose president, Naeem ur-Rehman, is closely involved with the designated Kashmiri jihadist group Hizbul Mujahideen. Jamaat-e-Islami’s own website also reports that Al-Khidmat has funded the 'Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas).'

Previously, writing in National Review, I uncovered that HHRD openly partnered in 2017 with Lashkar-e-Taiba — the designated Pakistani terrorist organisation responsible for the deadly 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Kashmiri activists, the ISI and Jamaat-e-Islami have long been comfortable in each other’s company, with some Pakistani experts reporting that the ISI uses Jamaat as a violent anti-Indian force, supplying it with weapons. In March, the Indian government bannedJamaat in Indian-controlled Kashmir because of its violent activities. Indian officials have also recently stated that Jamaat’s Kashmiri branch is linked closely to Pakistan’s ISI, and its militants were in regular contact with Pakistani officials.

Fai himself may not just be an ordinary Kashmiri secessionist.

In the 1970s, Fai apparently joined Jamaat-e-Islami, serving as a local official for the movement. As ProPublica has discovered, this was just the start of a long history of involvement with Islamist activists and causes. Kashmiri separatist leader Hashim Qureshi reportedly even admitted in 1995 that Fai was working in the US in the 1990s to raise funds for Jamaat-e-Islami and the designated Jamaat-linked terror group, Hizbul Mujahideen.

At previous ICNA events featuring Fai, he spoke alongside Nakibur Rahman, one of the leading US advocates for Jamaat-e-Islami’s Bangladeshi branch. Rahman himself is the son of former Jamaat-e-Islami leader Motiur Rahman Nizami — whom Bangladesh’s war crimes tribunal convicted in 2014 of committing genocide, murder and rape during the 1971 Liberation War. Nizami was executed in 2016, while Rahman has remained an unapologetic supporter of his father.

Fai is no ordinary Kashmiri secessionist. His ISI association is well-known. He reportedly joined Jamaat-e-Islami in 1970. (Photo: Reuters)

Mohsin Ansari, the reportedly anti-Semitic head of ICNA’s Helping Hand charity, has written that Nakibur Rahman has “worked in the USA tirelessly for years to help relieve the victimisation of Jammat workers in Bangladesh.”

Given his past, and the current company he keeps, it seems apparent that Ghulam Nabi Fai was not just an ISI asset — he is a Jamaat-e-Islami operative as well.

When Fai struck a deal with federal prosecutors in return for a reduced sentence, one of the conditions imposed was that he must end all contact with the ISI. It is noticeable that today, Fai continues to express the same rhetoric and ideas as before his conviction. And even if Fai has truly stayed away from his ISI handlers, he remains very much involved with Jamaat-e-Islami’s operations in the United States.

Just as the Gaza Strip is a campaign topic for America’s Islamists, so too is Kashmir.

And it’s not just ICNA. Majlis Ash-Shura of New York, for example, is an umbrella organisation for almost a hundred mosques and other Islamic organisations, whose officials have included a number of activists involved with Jamaati organisations. It has organised‘webinars’ on the subject of Kashmir, in which speakers encouraged the audience to regard Kashmir as a similar struggle to Palestine, and urged activist groups, such as Students for Justice in Palestine, to campaign against Indian policy on Kashmir as well.

A recent report written by Hatem Bazian, a prominent Islamist academic, is titled Islamophobia in India: Stoking Bigotry. Just like Fai, Bazian reportedly presents the Kashmiri conflict deceitfully, as nothing but senseless Indian cruelty, describing the conflict as a “colonial” effort to “punish the [Kashmiri] population for demanding basic human rights and freedom.” The “supposed war on terrorism,” Bazian writes, "is cover for anti-Muslim intolerance." Bazian’s organisation, American Muslims for Palestine, which heavily promoted the report, is a close partner of ICNA and is widely accused of being an American proxy for the designated Palestinian terrorist group Hamas.

Kashmir is now, more than ever, a leading issue for American Islamist movements.

We know the ISI works closely with Islamist movements in South Asia — does it also have any contact with their proxies in the West?

In any case, as long as India continues to fight the menace of Islamism, it should expect groups such as ICNA to continue providing political support and succour to these extremists. American Islamist movements now wield significant political influence in the Capitol and have already proved their ability to organise powerful international campaigns.

India is next in their sights.

https://www.dailyo.in/politics/amer...slami-hizbul-kashmir-jihad/story/1/30623.html

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Dude's not wrong. Now Jihadis are officially part of US establishement like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib for example. I hope Desi Democrats don't cuck out in the name of party loyalty.

 

[sorcerer]

Imran sees good times ahead
PM urges people to ‘stay strong’ in face of rising inflation
–Says govt has to raise gas, electricity prices as power sector can’t borrow any more money

Well!!! may be hes getting new stock of weed tonight or is getting laid

cuz
this is what I see

KSE: -171.11 -ve slipping 300..200..100 points etc every day since last few weeks
pak currency :141.63
Just like the pak navy has not come out of the creek.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Next in their sights: Why India should be extremely wary of American Islamism
Anti-Indian and pro-Kashmiri separatist activism in the US has previously been linked to Pakistani intelligence agencies. But analysts may now be overlooking the role of American Islamist movements.



A few weeks ago, the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) held its annual conference in Washington D.C. Organised in conjunction with the Muslim American Society, it is one of the largest events in the American Muslim calendar.

But the ICNA and the MAS are not ordinary Muslim organisations — they are Islamist groups. While both ICNA and MAS claim to be moderate organisations, the long history of extremist speakers at their conferences betrays underlying radical ideologies. Among the many hardline clerics and radical activists, one of the speakers this year turned out to be the anti-Indian activist Ghulam Nabi Fai — who used his platform to denounce the Indian government’s “brutal activities” in Kashmir.

Conspicuously, Fai did not even mention the widely-reported murderous acts of Kashmiri terrorism that recently killed dozens of Indian troops.

Ghulam Nabi Fai denounced the Indian govt on Kashmir. He did not even mention the attack on Indian CRPF in Pulwama. (Photo: Reuters)

Fai was subject to widespread American media coverage in 2011, when he was charged by American prosecutors with secretly serving as an agent of the Pakistani government. Fai pleaded guilty, admitting to extensive contact with Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), which has a long history of involvement with terror groups and other Islamist causes. Up to 2011, prosecutors showed, the ISI apparently transferred an extraordinary $3.5 million to Fai and his organisation, the Kashmiri American Council — all, reportedly, in a covert attempt to influence American policy on Kashmir.

Following Fai’s arrest, the ICNA and several other American Islamist organisations published a statement expressing support for Fai and the Kashmiri people’s “peaceful struggle for self-determination.” Since his release, Fai has been something of a regular partner for ICNA, almost always speaking on the subject of Kashmir and the ostensible wickedness of the Indian government. He has frequently addressedICNA events and ‘webinars’, and his op-eds are featured on ICNA’s website.

So, why is an anti-Indian activist, associated with Pakistan’s ISI, spending so much time with some of American’s most prominent domestic Islamist activists?

As the Middle East Forum has extensively illustrated, ICNA is apparently a branch of Jamaat-e-Islami — that's reportedly a violent South Asian Islamist movement that is particularly active in Kashmir. While ICNA itself is not violent, it seemingly supports violent Islamist movements in both Pakistan and Kashmir.

In March, the Indian govt banned Jamaat in Kashmir. Here, Jamaat-e-Islami supporters are seen protesting in Pakistan. (Photo: Reuters)

ICNA’s international aid charity, Helping Hand for Relief and Development (HHRD), for example, funds and partners with Jamaat-e-Islami’s welfare arm, Al Khidmat Foundation, whose president, Naeem ur-Rehman, is closely involved with the designated Kashmiri jihadist group Hizbul Mujahideen. Jamaat-e-Islami’s own website also reports that Al-Khidmat has funded the 'Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas).'

Previously, writing in National Review, I uncovered that HHRD openly partnered in 2017 with Lashkar-e-Taiba — the designated Pakistani terrorist organisation responsible for the deadly 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Kashmiri activists, the ISI and Jamaat-e-Islami have long been comfortable in each other’s company, with some Pakistani experts reporting that the ISI uses Jamaat as a violent anti-Indian force, supplying it with weapons. In March, the Indian government bannedJamaat in Indian-controlled Kashmir because of its violent activities. Indian officials have also recently stated that Jamaat’s Kashmiri branch is linked closely to Pakistan’s ISI, and its militants were in regular contact with Pakistani officials.

Fai himself may not just be an ordinary Kashmiri secessionist.

In the 1970s, Fai apparently joined Jamaat-e-Islami, serving as a local official for the movement. As ProPublica has discovered, this was just the start of a long history of involvement with Islamist activists and causes. Kashmiri separatist leader Hashim Qureshi reportedly even admitted in 1995 that Fai was working in the US in the 1990s to raise funds for Jamaat-e-Islami and the designated Jamaat-linked terror group, Hizbul Mujahideen.

At previous ICNA events featuring Fai, he spoke alongside Nakibur Rahman, one of the leading US advocates for Jamaat-e-Islami’s Bangladeshi branch. Rahman himself is the son of former Jamaat-e-Islami leader Motiur Rahman Nizami — whom Bangladesh’s war crimes tribunal convicted in 2014 of committing genocide, murder and rape during the 1971 Liberation War. Nizami was executed in 2016, while Rahman has remained an unapologetic supporter of his father.

Fai is no ordinary Kashmiri secessionist. His ISI association is well-known. He reportedly joined Jamaat-e-Islami in 1970. (Photo: Reuters)

Mohsin Ansari, the reportedly anti-Semitic head of ICNA’s Helping Hand charity, has written that Nakibur Rahman has “worked in the USA tirelessly for years to help relieve the victimisation of Jammat workers in Bangladesh.”

Given his past, and the current company he keeps, it seems apparent that Ghulam Nabi Fai was not just an ISI asset — he is a Jamaat-e-Islami operative as well.

When Fai struck a deal with federal prosecutors in return for a reduced sentence, one of the conditions imposed was that he must end all contact with the ISI. It is noticeable that today, Fai continues to express the same rhetoric and ideas as before his conviction. And even if Fai has truly stayed away from his ISI handlers, he remains very much involved with Jamaat-e-Islami’s operations in the United States.

Just as the Gaza Strip is a campaign topic for America’s Islamists, so too is Kashmir.

And it’s not just ICNA. Majlis Ash-Shura of New York, for example, is an umbrella organisation for almost a hundred mosques and other Islamic organisations, whose officials have included a number of activists involved with Jamaati organisations. It has organised‘webinars’ on the subject of Kashmir, in which speakers encouraged the audience to regard Kashmir as a similar struggle to Palestine, and urged activist groups, such as Students for Justice in Palestine, to campaign against Indian policy on Kashmir as well.

A recent report written by Hatem Bazian, a prominent Islamist academic, is titled Islamophobia in India: Stoking Bigotry. Just like Fai, Bazian reportedly presents the Kashmiri conflict deceitfully, as nothing but senseless Indian cruelty, describing the conflict as a “colonial” effort to “punish the [Kashmiri] population for demanding basic human rights and freedom.” The “supposed war on terrorism,” Bazian writes, "is cover for anti-Muslim intolerance." Bazian’s organisation, American Muslims for Palestine, which heavily promoted the report, is a close partner of ICNA and is widely accused of being an American proxy for the designated Palestinian terrorist group Hamas.

Kashmir is now, more than ever, a leading issue for American Islamist movements.

We know the ISI works closely with Islamist movements in South Asia — does it also have any contact with their proxies in the West?

In any case, as long as India continues to fight the menace of Islamism, it should expect groups such as ICNA to continue providing political support and succour to these extremists. American Islamist movements now wield significant political influence in the Capitol and have already proved their ability to organise powerful international campaigns.

India is next in their sights.

https://www.dailyo.in/politics/amer...slami-hizbul-kashmir-jihad/story/1/30623.html

===============================================================

Dude's not wrong. Now Jihadis are officially part of US establishement like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib for example. I hope Desi Democrats don't cuck out in the name of party loyalty.

These are American Muslims for everyone to see.

 

[garg_bharat]

These are American Muslims for everyone to see.

No surprise here. USA has 0.6% Muslim population but Muslims are 10%+ of jail population. Peacefuls love jail.

 

[garg_bharat]

Imran sees good times ahead
PM urges people to ‘stay strong’ in face of rising inflation
–Says govt has to raise gas, electricity prices as power sector can’t borrow any more money

Well!!! may be hes getting new stock or weed tonight or is getting laid

cuz
this is what I see

KSE: -171.11 -ve slipping 300..200..100 points etc every day since last few weeks
pak currency :141.63
Just like the pak navy has not come out of the creek.

It is not "creek" but "crack". It will come out eventually. See Pakistan is a rich country. Silly Yindoo is not able to see. Paki are very smart people. Paki are real businessmen. Paki defeated world's both superpowers USSR and USA. Now Paki is on track to defeat China. Take this Yindoo slave!

 

[Holy Triad]

Pakistan's growth rate slumps to lowest 3.3% in 9 years.

At this rate,rapid inflation is inevitable, which we already started to witness.
Forget s400,thaaaad,pantsears etc, right now they need tonnes and tonnes of tear gas canisters, to control upcoming food riots.

 

[trisonics]

This is not enough. Somebody knowledgeable here can tell us how much one sortie of F16 or older Mirages costs them. IAF needs to deliver deep burning injuries to them by flying CAP close to the border. Increase naval activity too - force them to move their assets to incur financial damages without firing a bullet.

 

[Anikastha]

Pakistan's growth rate slumps to lowest 3.3% in 9 years.

At this rate,rapid inflation is inevitable, which we already started to witness.
Forget s400,thaaaad,pantsears etc, right now they need tonnes and tonnes of tear gas canisters, to control upcoming food riots.

well we can help them....pakistan can cede some part of their land in exchange of money....

 

[sorcerer]

Pakistan's growth rate slumps to lowest 3.3% in 9 years.

At this rate,rapid inflation is inevitable, which we already started to witness.
Forget s400,thaaaad,pantsears etc, right now they need tonnes and tonnes of tear gas canisters, to control upcoming food riots.

Well said..its pakistan..who would spend money to buy tear gas cannisters instead of tamatar for the same money to control the food riots.

 

[Craigs]

well we can help them....pakistan can cede some part of their land in exchange of money....

Pakistan can cede some part of the land so as to save their money. Why should we pay them for what is ours anyway. If they don't cede then we will raise the cost to them so high the men will have to start selling each other (they have already sold the women to the Chinese).

 

[trisonics]

I remember reading somewhere pre 1965 ,when our growth rate was low, porkies used to call low growth rate (of about 6% ) as Hindu growth rate, and ofcourse every converted slave Porkie is worth 10 Hindus .
Call this converted Porkie rate of growth.

We need to call it the PP Growth rate Paki-piglet growth Rate. The harder they try, the more coil in this tail that does not hide the shit hole behind it. For reference only:

 

[Holy Triad]

well we can help them....pakistan can cede some part of their land in exchange of money....

Lucky for us, pork military already in real estate business,we sure can come to an amicable deal

PAF converts land for ‘national security’ into housing scheme in Lahore

An audit report on the aviation division has revealed that the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) converted the land acquired for “national security” into a housing scheme, causing a loss of Rs1.92 billion to the national exchequer.

https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1461122

I remember reading somewhere pre 1965 ,when our growth rate was low, porkies used to call low growth rate (of about 6% ) as Hindu growth rate, and ofcourse every converted slave Porkie is worth 10 Hindus .
Call this converted Porkie rate of growth.

Well,tables have turned now,hasn't it?
(Tamatar ka tauba moment)

 

[Anikastha]

Pakistan can cede some part of the land so as to save their money. Why should we pay them for what is ours anyway. If they don't cede then we will raise the cost to them so high the men will have to start selling each other (they have already sold the women to the Chinese).

nah...i am not talking about PoK...i am talking about fertile lands of sindh and punjab...just land...mommies can go fuck themselves somewhere else..PoK ajj nahi toh kal hum leke hi rahenge.....

 

[ezsasa]

Just a thought....

In all the discussions on aftermath of Balakot strikes, Pakistan has not lodged a formal complaint of any sorts against India in any of the global multilateral organisations or forums.

Would a country bombed militarily by its neighbour keep quiet if it was innocent? NO!!!
Isn’t this a proof of tacit acceptance of terrorist camp being present in balakot.

I think this angle should also form part of our narrative..

Imagine Pakistan sends its fighters unprovoked into India and bombs something, our first response would be a diplomatic offensive in all multilateral forums with emphasis on sanctions against Pakistan while a military retaliation will happen simultaneously.

Pakistan did not do that, why?

 

[Sanglamorre]

I don't think he is. He just trusts the "source" more than the relatively simple logic of "US is not too happy with Pakistan and vice versa."

Let's wait for IDRW or defencenews.in to write an article about it and someone to post it here. Then we can have intellectual err... emotional discussion about the betrayal of America or Russia or whatever.

Unkil was "working with India" to provide an alternative to S400, right? You think they'll sell THAAD to Pak now and risk India going full hilt to S400?