India Strikes Against Pakistani Terrorism 2019

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Speculation on the outcome of the air strikes has sparked off a full-blown information war at a time when the elections are just round the corner in India.

Pakistan, it may be noted, has released visuals of a downed Indian fighter, its captured pilot and a purported Indian submarine at sea near its coast in the past few days.

National Security Advisor (NSA) Ajit Doval has been in close touch with the three service chiefs on ongoing tensions as well as impact of the air strikes. Senior officers say that IAF still does not consider the operation as over, and that its air defence network is on full alert to ‘respond to any misadventure’.

While the information warfare is now being responded to, evidence of the airstrike or the subsequent air fight in which a Pakistani F-16 was said to be shot down, has not been released officially.

The pressure to prove impact of the strikes comes in the wake of increased questioning of the casualty estimates of 300 terrorists that top government sources had shared with the media on February 26, the day of the strikes.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ikes-at-balakot-camp/articleshow/68295846.cms
 

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जहां तक मुझे ज्ञात हे बाबजी प्रक्षेपण यान की बात कर रहे हैं अब यह मत पूछना कि यह क्या होता हैं।
 

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Nope there AMRAAMS were fired distance from basically 50-40 Km
Gives enough time to make MKI'S statergic manuver using flares and Countermeasures
Yup. What people don't seem to understand is that a BVR air to air missile is not a 100% certain killer. In fact if you look through the history of air combat, BVR engagements have always been an unreliable way of ensuring kills. The AMRAAM has been used in combat on multiple occasions since its introduction has has a less than stellar track record even against some of the technologically most backward opponents it has faced up against.

Most educated sources admit that in best circumstances the AMRAAM has less than 30% hit probability when fired from ranges beyond 20nm (45km). At longer ranges against a maneuvering target employing basic kinetic and ECM countermeasures, that probability starts to bleed fairly quickly.
 

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Isro satellite that could have scanned JeM camp after bombin ..

However, Isro-made satellite Risat-2, which is currently und ..

However, Isro-made satellite Risat-2, which is currently under the control of National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO), has the capability to penetrate through a cloud cover and can take photos of the earth even at night.

The spy satellite with its Israel-made X-band synethic aperture radar can zoom up to a resolution of 1 metre (means it can distinguish between two objects separated by 1 m distance). “The reconnaissance satellite can take images of a building or an object on the earth at least 2 to 3 times a day,” a source in Isro said. If the spy satellite can take images of a spot at least three times in 24 hours while orbiting the earth, it could have been used to capture the images of the devastation at the JeM camp due to the air strike.

According to the Isro source, “Out of the total 47 operational satellites, India currently has six-eight satellites which are entirely used for military purpose. Besides Risat-2, there are four Cartosat-2 series satellites (2C, 2D, 2E, 2F) and Gsat-29 satellite.” The space agency has also launched a defence imaging satellite, Microsat R, for DRDO in January and is going to launch another satellite electromagnetic intelligence satellite EMISAT for the organisation in the last week of this month. While Microsat-R satellite can capture images at night, EMISAT has the capability to detect radars and microwave signals.

There are some satellites which have dual use. For example HysIS (hyper-spectral imaging satellite), which was launched in last November, can see through soil up to a few centimeters and detect landmines and IEDs. However, it is also used for a range of civil applications like in agriculture and forestry.


Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst



Well... Welll...Welll!!! India has more capabilities than what rotten Reuters talked about..
:popcorn:
 

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While I disagree with the politics being played out in this whole "proof" saga in media...I have some sympathy for the airmen involved in the operation. Imagine, you have pulled off one of the most audacious operations in recent world history, one that should rightly be enshrined in history books in years to come, yet if you go out in public at a restaurant you'll overhear some retards commenting about "fake news"..."political ploy"...bla bla bla...

I dunno...somehow...I find this entire episode has become extremely unfair to the people who carried out the operation. Who can tolerate reading headlines world over that the action you conducted is fake? That your courage is fabricated...it just rubs me the wrong way

I say all this because I just read an infuriatingly smug piece on Zero Hedge calling the strike the "greatest false flag in the history of the Kashmir issue" and everything written there just made me angry
 

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Update:


Grenade Attack At Bus Stand In Jammu, At Least 10 Injured



An grenade explosion has taken place inside a bus at the bus station in Jammu. Around 8 people have been injured.

It is unclear if there were people inside the bus. People have cordoned off the area.

Visuals showed security personnel guarding the area as a large number of locals gathered around the site of the blast.

The injured have been taken to hospital.

"I thought it was a tyre burst. it was a big blast. The locals took the injured to the hospital in an ambulance," an eyewitness told news agency ANI.

More details are awaited.
 

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Isro satellite that could have scanned JeM camp after bombin ..

However, Isro-made satellite Risat-2, which is currently und ..

However, Isro-made satellite Risat-2, which is currently under the control of National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO), has the capability to penetrate through a cloud cover and can take photos of the earth even at night.

The spy satellite with its Israel-made X-band synethic aperture radar can zoom up to a resolution of 1 metre (means it can distinguish between two objects separated by 1 m distance). “The reconnaissance satellite can take images of a building or an object on the earth at least 2 to 3 times a day,” a source in Isro said. If the spy satellite can take images of a spot at least three times in 24 hours while orbiting the earth, it could have been used to capture the images of the devastation at the JeM camp due to the air strike.

According to the Isro source, “Out of the total 47 operational satellites, India currently has six-eight satellites which are entirely used for military purpose. Besides Risat-2, there are four Cartosat-2 series satellites (2C, 2D, 2E, 2F) and Gsat-29 satellite.” The space agency has also launched a defence imaging satellite, Microsat R, for DRDO in January and is going to launch another satellite electromagnetic intelligence satellite EMISAT for the organisation in the last week of this month. While Microsat-R satellite can capture images at night, EMISAT has the capability to detect radars and microwave signals.

There are some satellites which have dual use. For example HysIS (hyper-spectral imaging satellite), which was launched in last November, can see through soil up to a few centimeters and detect landmines and IEDs. However, it is also used for a range of civil applications like in agriculture and forestry.


Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst



Well... Welll...Welll!!! India has more capabilities than what rotten Reuters talked about..
:popcorn:
More importantly it can relay real time images ,so cloud cover or not we have the proofs and will display it when paki propaganda cycle dies a natural death
 

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Here umbrella mean s air defense system s........

And baba is saying.......our security forces are ready ....just waiting for govt s decision
Friendly country is probably Israel, umbrella is probably THAAD (US is in Israel for exercises, and recently airlifted THAAD system there).
 

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Friendly country is probably Israel, umbrella is probably THAAD (US is in Israel for exercises, and recently airlifted THAAD system there).
Could also be S 400 deliveries have been completed by Russia under fast track. Could explain GSP chimpout by US.
 

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Friendly country is probably Israel, umbrella is probably THAAD (US is in Israel for exercises, and recently airlifted THAAD system there).
What if umbrella is Iron DOme which Israel deployed to counter rockets fired by Hamas.
 

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Update:


Grenade Attack At Bus Stand In Jammu, At Least 10 Injured



An grenade explosion has taken place inside a bus at the bus station in Jammu. Around 8 people have been injured.

It is unclear if there were people inside the bus. People have cordoned off the area.

Visuals showed security personnel guarding the area as a large number of locals gathered around the site of the blast.

The injured have been taken to hospital.

"I thought it was a tyre burst. it was a big blast. The locals took the injured to the hospital in an ambulance," an eyewitness told news agency ANI.

More details are awaited.

Grenade attack is by a new group groomed by ISI in pakistan..One porky pig was caught yesterday who attacked the police station in Punjab, who threw grenade at the station .
 

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'Abhinandan is a typically aggressive fighter pilot'
March 06, 2019
'Wing Commander Abhinandan would not have even worried if he was going to cross the LoC or not because he was not going to let go of a shot.'



IMAGE: Sand artist Sudarsan Pattnaik with a sand sculpture of Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman at the beach in Puri, March 1, 2019. Photograph: PTI Photo
Air Vice Marshal Arjun Subramanian (retd) has flown both the MiG-21 and Mirage 2000 fighter aircraft.

The fighter pilot served the Indian Air Force for 36 years and is an erudite and scholarly voice on strategic affairs.

The author of three books, Air Vice Marshal Subramanian is a visiting professor at Ashoka University and the Jindal School of International Affairs. He was formerly a visiting professor at the Fletcher School of Diplomacy and a visiting fellow at Harvard, Oxford and Northeastern Universities.

The pilot-scholar-commentator spoke to Rediff.com's Archana Masih about the impact of the IAF's daring missions last week. The first of a two-part interview:

As a fighter pilot yourself who has flown the MiG-21, what are your thoughts about Wing Commander Abhinandan's mission?

His mission was very clear. A pilot on an Operational Ready Platform is scrambled when there is an imminent threat. His job is to ensure that that imminent threat does not materialise into an actual threat.


That is what he did.

He was on an air defence mission, the task of an air defence mission pilot is to shoot down an enemy strike or air defence aircraft if it ingresses into Indian space and threatens targets.

We have shot down an aircraft even during peace, two months after the Kargil war.

Flight Lieutenant Prashant Bundela in a MiG-21 Bison shot down an Atlantique aircraft of the Pakistan air force because it strayed into Indian airspace and refused to go back.

(The officer won a gallantry medal, but unfortunately in 2002, Squadron Leader Bundela's MiG-21 crashed. He died four months later from spinal injuries sustained on ejection.)

Why did the aircraft not go back? Because he may have thought that the IAF would not call the bluff and shoot it down.

Similarly, the F-16 pilot would have thought that it has just made an ingress and his own radar probably told him to turn back, but he did not anticipate the Indians would scramble the fighters so fast and create a situation where he would have the threat of being shot down.

It was a clear-cut mission where the pilot had a task. He has been trained for it and has executed it with professionalism.


IMAGE: Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman with Defence Minister Nirmala Sitaraman at the Air Force Central Medical Establishment, March 2, 2019.
Since his return, what would be some of the procedures Wing Commander Abhinandan must be going through now and for the next few days?

He would be medically assessed. Having gone through an ejection the doctors would particularly examine his spine. The spine takes the biggest load during an ejection.

There will be psychological tests, multiple debriefs and an assessment -- if he is ok, he should be back in a cockpit pretty soon.



IMAGE: The IAF's MiG-21 aircraft.
How did an aircraft that the IAF plans to phase out this year best a superior aircraft like the F-16?

There are a number of factors that lead to this kind of situation. In history, we have had David besting Goliath.

It is about tactics, the aggressiveness in the mind of the fighter pilot, how much help the pilot gets from his ground control -- from the fighter controller who is vectoring him on to the package.

It is not just the MiG-21 vs the F-16, it is the environment, training, the pilot and the ability to take an opportunity shot.

That is what Abhinandan has done -- he has guided on to the package very well, has locked on and has pressed on with the attack which clearly indicates him as a typically aggressive fighter pilot.

We understand that 24 Pakistani aircraft were deployed and 8 Indian aircraft responded. To lay people like us it looks like an unequal fight, can you please explain?

It doesn't work that way. Let us hypothetically assume that there were 24 aircraft.

All these 24 aircraft are not equipped with bombs to drop on a target.

There will be 1/3 aircraft to drop bombs; 1/3 aircraft are air defence fighters to protect this formation; a couple of aircraft provide electronic warfare support -- it's a package and not these aircraft are coming in a single direction.

They would probably be split into two sub packages and be heading in different directions, but in the same area.

Then you have 3 to 4 pairs of Indian aircraft that are scrambled and directed on to these four elements.

This is typically how large force engagements take place.

Out of this only 1 to 2 will matrialise into an actual air to air engagement.

In this case, it was just one.

We were in a high state of alert after the Balakot strike. Despite that, how did a package of Pakistani aircraft breach our air defences the following day?

It did not breach. If 1 or 2 Pakistani aircraft had bombed an Indian air field or hit an important army installation, that would be a breach.

Here the aircraft has been spotted by our radar well in time and barely had they ingressed into the LoC they were intercepted.

The Pak package has been intercepted at the LoC and that's why Abhinandan had gone across the LoC because he was locked on to the F 16 that was heading back and took a shot.

By no yardstick was it a breach of our air defence system.

If the MiG 21 Bison is going to be phased out this year, why is it kept at a forward base?

As compared to all IAF fighters, the Bison can scramble the quickest.

It is an uncomplicated aircraft. The pilot runs to the aircraft, hops into the cockpit, is able to start it much quicker and off he goes.

It is certainly not in the same class as the F-16. Even though it is going to be phased out, it is not a platform to mess around with.



IMAGE: The F-16.
What does such a dogfight entails and what decisions have to be taken in lightening quick time?

The radar controller has to guide the fighter aircraft on to an enemy target.

When the pilot picks up the target either visually or on his radar from then on the decision-making cycle rests entirely with the pilot.

The pilot has to lock on to the enemy aircraft, decide what is his distance from the enemy aircraft and whether he needs to close in a little to fire his missile.

At the same time he cannot be oblivious that another pilot is locked on to him.

All this takes place with both the enemy aircraft and your own aircraft in speeds in access of 800 km/hr.

Once an enemy aircraft comes to know that somebody is locked on to him, he will start maneuvering his aircraft to 5G, 6G, 7G -- and you have to take the decision of when is the correct time to fire your missile.

It is over in a flash.

Instantaneous decisions have to be taken in that moment.

At that time, Wing Commander Abhinandan would not have even worried if he was going to cross the LoC or not because he was not going to let go of a shot.

It is quick, intense and you have to be decisive in your action.

You have flown the MiG-21, tell us about this aircraft.

This MiG-21 Bison is probably the most advanced version of the MiG-21 that exists in the world today.

The only thing similar to the old MiG-21 is the air frame and possibly the engine. The cockpit, instrumentation, radar, weapon systems are all reasonably advanced.

I would say the Bison would be a third generation plus kind of aircraft.
Need to put this guy in a Sukhoi .
 

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Could also be S 400 deliveries have been completed by Russia under fast track. Could explain GSP chimpout by US.
S400 impossible......we have just signed the deal.....could be iron dome.........or......mrsam(land version of lrsam)
 

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Pakis fired bvraam.....I believe iaf was not ordered for aggression........and now iaf is ordered for aggression too......
I do not understand why IAF was waiting for PAF to fir BVRAAM first ? It was clear that PAF will attack very soon ... why wait for them ... IAF should be anticipating them ...
 

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I do not understand why IAF was waiting for PAF to fir BVRAAM first ? It was clear that PAF will attack very soon ... why wait for them ... IAF should be anticipating them ...
IAF has already said that they expected porkis to respond, just not this soon.
 

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I do not understand why IAF was waiting for PAF to fir BVRAAM first ? It was clear that PAF will attack very soon ... why wait for them ... IAF should be anticipating them ...
We need them to attack our military, and they did it. Now we can use that as an excuse for anything we want to do.
 
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