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Russia simulates S-400 at the Max range of 400 km and its advantage India

Russia recently tested 9M83M surface to air missile which is one of the Interceptor missiles of the S-400 Air Defence system against a simulated target of a short-range ballistic missile at its maximum range of 400km. Many defense analysts see this as the first technical verification of the 9M83M Interceptor missile at its indeed maximum range of 400 km for clients like India which has recently placed orders for the air defense system. Russia has confirmed that the deliveries of the S-400 surface-to-air missile systems to India will be done by the end of 2021, India had signed a $5bn deal for S-400 missiles in 2018, drawing warnings from the United States that such an acquisition would trigger sanctions as part of a wider program against Russia. S-400 Air Defence system which consists of four missiles in an individual container is made of 9M96E: 40 km, 9M96E2: 120 km, 48N6: 250 km and 9M83M: 400km and India have placed orders for S400 which are only made up of 48N6: 250 km and 9M83M: 400km missile interceptors so first simulated demonstration of the 9M83M at its maximum intercept range of 400 km is quite an important event for the India which is looking at the system to destroy aircraft, cruise, and ballistic missiles, including medium-range missiles at a distance of 400 km and an altitude of up to 30 km. China reportedly has opted for 9M96E2: 120 km, 48N6: 250 km, and somewhat 9M83M is exclusive to India for the time being while many more countries are also interested in the missile system.
 

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‘Possibility of sanctions on India remain on table’, says top US diplomat
The possibility of US sanctions on India for buying the multi-billion dollar S-400 missile system from Russia remains on the table, a top American diplomat has said, asserting that New Delhi will have to make a strategic commitment to technologies and platforms.

In October 2018, India signed a USD 5 billion deal with Russia to buy five units of the S-400 air defence missile systems, notwithstanding warning from America that going ahead with the contract may invite US sanctions under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).

Last year, India made the first tranche of payment of around USD 800 million to Russia for the missile systems. The S-400 is known as Russia’s most advanced long-range surface-to-air missile defence system.

“CAATSA very much remains a policy priority, certainly for Congress, where you’ve seen the very strong demand for implementation and concern over the ability of Russia to gain monies from these military sales that will be used to further undermine the sovereignty of neighbouring countries,” Alice Wells, the outgoing Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, told a Washington DC-based think tank on Wednesday.


The US had imposed sanctions on Russia under the stringent CAATSA. The law also provides for punitive action against countries purchasing defence hardware from Russia.

“CAATSA has not moved off the table. Instead of approaching it from a Russian prism though, I think the more important conversation to have is at this level of sophistication and as India is moving to adopt the highest level of technological systems, it really becomes a question of which system do they want to operate within,” Wells responded to a question posed by former US Ambassador to India Richard Verma.

“How do they want their systems to communicate with one another? It’s not a mix and match arrangement. At certain point, India will have to make sort of a strategic commitment to technologies and platforms and we think we have the best technologies and platforms,” Wells said while participating in a Atlantic Council-organised virtual discussion.


At the same time, the top US diplomat for South Asia who will retire on May 22 after a 31-year-long career, referred to the growing defense relationship between the two countries.

“We have also made strides in our defense trade, with the bilateral tally now crossing the 20 billion mark after the president’s visit. I think this administration deserves to take credit for making a concerted policy change to offer India our most advanced defense technologies such as armed Unmanned Aerial Vehicle,” she said.

“It’s quite remarkable to think that the same missile defense system protecting Washington DC will soon be protecting new Delhi,” Wells said.

India’s growing capabilities as a first responder have also been on display in the Indian ocean where it has been delivering COVID relief, often using US-origin platforms to dozens of countries.

“Looking ahead, I’m confident that defense trade and interoperability will continue to grow even though COVID-19 related budgetary challenges may slow the pace,” she noted.

“One area where I think we can exert even more attention is preparing for 21st century threats, especially as the military implications of artificial intelligence, autonomous devices and quantum computing become more pronounced. I’m proud that our maturing relationship has allowed us to develop a new degree of resiliency and self-confidence and that does allow us to navigate differences on issues like trade sanctions and visas,” she said.


Wells also said the US sees India as a global power and understands the country’s global interests which it seeks to protect diplomatically, politically, economically, and militarily.

The US and India share a vision for an Indo-Pacific order that respects sovereignty and rule of law.

“India seeks to become, you know, in the words of (External Affairs) Minister Jaishankar a leading power, but one that plays by the rules. We in turn recognise that India is successful, (its) rise contributes to an environment in Asia that serves US interests,” she said.


“So, this strategic meeting of the minds on the Indo-Pacific vision has greatly enhanced how we’re able to work together, around the world. As saw in what was rebranded as the comprehensive global strategic partnership announced earlier this year during President Trump’s historic visit to India,” Wells said.

Jaishankar told US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in June last year that India will go by its national interest while dealing with other countries, including with sanctions-hit Russia from whom New Delhi is procuring S-400 missile defence systems.

The personal rapport between President Trump and Prime Minister Narendra Modi is clear and it has clearly helped the relationship, she said.

“Another example is the QUAD, which is well on its way to becoming one of the premier forums of the Indio-Pacific. In just the past year, we held the inaugural QUAD ministerial meeting. We saw QUAD ambassadors meeting regularly in countries across the Pacific and we convened experts meetings on counter terrorism, cyber issues, and maritime security,” she said.

The QUAD is also playing a role in their COVID-19 coordination, Wells said.

QUAD is an informal strategic dialogue between the US, Japan, Australia and India that is maintained by talks between member countries.
 

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‘Possibility of sanctions on India remain on table’, says top US diplomat
The possibility of US sanctions on India for buying the multi-billion dollar S-400 missile system from Russia remains on the table, a top American diplomat has said, asserting that New Delhi will have to make a strategic commitment to technologies and platforms.

In October 2018, India signed a USD 5 billion deal with Russia to buy five units of the S-400 air defence missile systems, notwithstanding warning from America that going ahead with the contract may invite US sanctions under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).

Last year, India made the first tranche of payment of around USD 800 million to Russia for the missile systems. The S-400 is known as Russia’s most advanced long-range surface-to-air missile defence system.

“CAATSA very much remains a policy priority, certainly for Congress, where you’ve seen the very strong demand for implementation and concern over the ability of Russia to gain monies from these military sales that will be used to further undermine the sovereignty of neighbouring countries,” Alice Wells, the outgoing Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, told a Washington DC-based think tank on Wednesday.


The US had imposed sanctions on Russia under the stringent CAATSA. The law also provides for punitive action against countries purchasing defence hardware from Russia.

“CAATSA has not moved off the table. Instead of approaching it from a Russian prism though, I think the more important conversation to have is at this level of sophistication and as India is moving to adopt the highest level of technological systems, it really becomes a question of which system do they want to operate within,” Wells responded to a question posed by former US Ambassador to India Richard Verma.

“How do they want their systems to communicate with one another? It’s not a mix and match arrangement. At certain point, India will have to make sort of a strategic commitment to technologies and platforms and we think we have the best technologies and platforms,” Wells said while participating in a Atlantic Council-organised virtual discussion.


At the same time, the top US diplomat for South Asia who will retire on May 22 after a 31-year-long career, referred to the growing defense relationship between the two countries.

“We have also made strides in our defense trade, with the bilateral tally now crossing the 20 billion mark after the president’s visit. I think this administration deserves to take credit for making a concerted policy change to offer India our most advanced defense technologies such as armed Unmanned Aerial Vehicle,” she said.

“It’s quite remarkable to think that the same missile defense system protecting Washington DC will soon be protecting new Delhi,” Wells said.

India’s growing capabilities as a first responder have also been on display in the Indian ocean where it has been delivering COVID relief, often using US-origin platforms to dozens of countries.

“Looking ahead, I’m confident that defense trade and interoperability will continue to grow even though COVID-19 related budgetary challenges may slow the pace,” she noted.

“One area where I think we can exert even more attention is preparing for 21st century threats, especially as the military implications of artificial intelligence, autonomous devices and quantum computing become more pronounced. I’m proud that our maturing relationship has allowed us to develop a new degree of resiliency and self-confidence and that does allow us to navigate differences on issues like trade sanctions and visas,” she said.


Wells also said the US sees India as a global power and understands the country’s global interests which it seeks to protect diplomatically, politically, economically, and militarily.

The US and India share a vision for an Indo-Pacific order that respects sovereignty and rule of law.

“India seeks to become, you know, in the words of (External Affairs) Minister Jaishankar a leading power, but one that plays by the rules. We in turn recognise that India is successful, (its) rise contributes to an environment in Asia that serves US interests,” she said.


“So, this strategic meeting of the minds on the Indo-Pacific vision has greatly enhanced how we’re able to work together, around the world. As saw in what was rebranded as the comprehensive global strategic partnership announced earlier this year during President Trump’s historic visit to India,” Wells said.

Jaishankar told US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in June last year that India will go by its national interest while dealing with other countries, including with sanctions-hit Russia from whom New Delhi is procuring S-400 missile defence systems.

The personal rapport between President Trump and Prime Minister Narendra Modi is clear and it has clearly helped the relationship, she said.

“Another example is the QUAD, which is well on its way to becoming one of the premier forums of the Indio-Pacific. In just the past year, we held the inaugural QUAD ministerial meeting. We saw QUAD ambassadors meeting regularly in countries across the Pacific and we convened experts meetings on counter terrorism, cyber issues, and maritime security,” she said.

The QUAD is also playing a role in their COVID-19 coordination, Wells said.

QUAD is an informal strategic dialogue between the US, Japan, Australia and India that is maintained by talks between member countries.
Loud Mouth USA Are caught by Balls From India

Even turkey didn't a Shit

USA Bad cop policy is boring
 

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this is probably fake news?? I think this issue has been settled long back.
Trp mogering Pro chinese lobby Media misquoted it

this what She said CAATSA very much remains a policy priority, certainly for Congress, where you’ve seen the very strong demand for implementation and concern over the ability of Russia to gain monies from these military sales that will be used to further undermine the sovereignty of neighbouring countries,” Alice Wells, the outgoing Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, told a Washington DC-based think tank on Wednesday.


What is Generalized by LW's dallal media

Possibility of sanctions on India remain on table’, says top US diplomat

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Trp mogering Pro chinese lobby Media misquoted it

this what She said CAATSA very much remains a policy priority, certainly for Congress, where you’ve seen the very strong demand for implementation and concern over the ability of Russia to gain monies from these military sales that will be used to further undermine the sovereignty of neighbouring countries,” Alice Wells, the outgoing Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, told a Washington DC-based think tank on Wednesday.


What is Generalized by LW's dallal media

Possibility of sanctions on India remain on table’, says top US diplomat

:megusta: :megusta: :megusta:
This buy was prior to CAATSA it maybe hinting any new buys?? NATO member Turkey
no backlash?? Alice Wells is pro -pakistan :

Waive debt or renegotiate loans to create a fair deal for Pak: US to China


 

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This buy was prior to CAATSA it maybe hinting any new buys?? NATO member Turkey
no backlash?? Alice Wells is pro -pakistan :

Waive debt or renegotiate loans to create a fair deal for Pak: US to China


She Is a Neutral She Is more Aligned With US interest
Expected Line From a Diplomat
Her Job is to Mold objectives of Developing Nations more Aligned towards USA Strategic Goals

Her observation on Chinese Expansionism Today




Well this are Real line Which oblivious Misquoted by CCP Paid LW lobby

 

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Rajnath Singh’s Russia visit: India to urge Russia to rush delivery of S-400 system
NEW DELHI: India will press Russia to consider expediting the delivery of the S-400 Triumf anti-missile system during defence minister Rajnath Singh’s three-day visit to Russia starting Monday. The urgency comes amid heightened tensions along the India-China border.

Moscow is believed to have delayed delivery of the $5.4-billion system to December 2021 due to Covid-19 constraints. India had completed large payments for the system last year.

China, which also enjoys strong defence ties with Russia, has already acquired the S-400 system from its northern neighbour and this fact may have added to India’s concerns. Besides, sources said, armed forces have been told to be ready for all eventualities. The government has begun the process of filling up gaps in defence preparedness, making good pending purchases, shoring up supplies and improving inventory profile based on worst-case scenarios, including a two-front fight.



According to people aware of the details, Russia appears to have bunched the delivery of India’s S-400 with a couple of other countries.

New Delhi is keen to explore if a delinking of delivery is possible and a faster schedule can be worked out given the historical military relationship between the two countries.

Reliability of supplies is the other key issue on top of Singh’s agenda. There are two parts to the segment — one, speed up availability of spares for existing Sukhoi and MiG fleets and second, gain an assurance that Indian supplies will not be impacted in changing political environment.

ET has learnt that this issue was discussed in detail at the highest level after India lost 20 soldiers to violence on the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with China. At that point, it was felt that a quick reach-out to Russia was necessary for defence preparedness.

While the Moscow Victory Day parade was a planned event, there were doubts of a ministerial-level representation because of the Covid-19 pandemic. However, after consultations with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, it was decided that Singh must undertake the visit as that was the best opportunity to engage the Russian government at this critical juncture.

Chinese defence minister Wei Fenghe is also likely to be present at the event. Beijing has been pushing Moscow to deepen defence cooperation and obtain access to high-end Russian technology, especially in making jet engines. China, in fact, has been quite keen to develop its defence industry on the back of Russian capabilities.

Singh is slated to have a separate bilateral meeting with his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu during his visit. Much of these issues will discussed at length with him, especially on hastening deliveries for weapon systems and spares. He is also to meet deputy prime minister Yury Borisov, who also deals with military and aerospace affairs.
 

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Just In: #Russia has agreed to speed up deliveries of S-400 LR-ADS to #India. Deliveries to begin by end of 2020 instead of Oct 2021 as it was previously scheduled. Negotiations on other deals also fastened.
 

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Russia to deliver S-400 by 2021-end, but will supply missiles and bombs amid LAC tensions

India’s S-400 Triumf air defence system is currently in production in Russia and will undergo a series of trials before its arrival in the country by the end of 2021.

Sources said amid tensions with China at the Line of Actual Control in Ladakh, Russia will supply certain kinds of missiles and bombs for the Indian Air Force and the Army as part of emergency procurement.

Sources also said during the recent visit of Defence Minister Rajnath Singh to Russia, a review of all defence contracts signed and those in pipeline was done.


Diplomatic sources said India has sought emergency delivery of quite a few items.

They said India is aware that according to the contract, the delivery of the S-400 system would begin within 24 months from the payment of the first tranche of the $5.2-billion dollar deal.

Sources said even though the contract for the system, which will be India’s air defence umbrella and the main pillar of the Indian Air Force’s defence grid, was signed in October 2018, the payment took time because both countries had to find a way around the US sanctions against Russia.

Initially, it was expected that the first of the five S-400 systems will start coming in by the end of 2020. Following this, the rest of the four systems will be supplied over a period of four years.

“The production process involves a lot of computing and coding, which is very specific to the requirements of a particular customer. There are series of tests that are conducted, which are also followed up by training. The production can’t be simply sped up,” a source said.

The source added it is not like in-use missiles, which can be diverted from Russian forces to India or any other customer.


Capabilities of S-400

The S-400 is the most modern air defence system in the Russian arsenal meant for export.

It is capable of destroying incoming hostile aircraft, missiles and even drones within a range of up to 400 km. It has a tracking capability of nearly 600 km.

The system has been designed to knock down flying targets, including those equipped with stealth technologies, at a distance of about 400 km. It is also capable of taking out ballistic missiles and hypersonic targets.

Compared to its predecessor — the S-300 — the S-400 has a firing rate that is 2.5 times faster.

As reported by ThePrint earlier, each S-400 battery comprises long-range radar, a command post vehicle, target acquisition radar and two battalions of launchers (each battalion has eight). Each launcher has four tubes.

The S-400 can be armed with four different types of missiles with ranges of 400 km, 250 km, 120 km and 40 km. The long-range radar can track more than 100 flying objects simultaneously while being able to engage a dozen targets.

 

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Since we have already paid for it can't say STFU to roosi,but i m quite certain about chinese arm twisting of roosi which delays its delivery
We should cut short defence procurements from roosi as much as possible
 

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Turkey tested its first Russian-made S-400 Triumph systems on F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II fighters, learned BulgarianMilitary.com citing the Evening Courier and Fighter Jets World magazines. The test results were not disclosed, but judging by the lack of complaints, it can be assumed that the country is completely satisfied with the systems, as BulgarianMilitary writes.

The two batteries of Russian-made S-400 air defense systems are deployed at the Myurt airbase. They were tested at least three times on American stealth fighters. AviaPro news agency indicates that not only F-35 aircraft, but also more classified F-22s appeared in the detection range of systems.

The “targeted” American fifth-generation fighters were sent to rotation in the Middle East through the Black Sea and directly Turkey. Their route ran approximately 170-200 kilometers from the Turkish Air Force Airbase of Myurt. Therefore, the Turkish side had a great opportunity to test its S-400s for aerodynamic purposes. This was not the first test of Turkish S-400 over American fighter: in November 2019, video footage appeared showing the testing of the S-400’s radar on F-16s and F-4E Phantoms. So, Turkey has crossed ‘another red line’ by starting tests of the radar detection system it purchased from Russia as part of the S-400 missile defense system, U.S. Senator for Maryland Christopher Van Hollen said.

The United States wanted to buy S-400 missile systems from Turkey to exit the impasse regarding the participation of Ankara in the program for the production of F-35 Lightning II. Turkey declined the offer, to the relief of Russia.
 

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Then ....if a stealth fighter can be caught with radar....then why to spend on costly fighter s . Better use spj pod on fighter s
 

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Then ....if a stealth fighter can be caught with radar....then why to spend on costly fighter s . Better use spj pod on fighter s
Stealth doesn't make invisible, it just makes the aircraft difficult to detect and track (specifically tack).
The goal of stealth aircraft is to engage and neutralize enemy before they might do you significant harm. The goal is not to be invisible.
Many a times stealth aircraft move around with their radar turned off; as radar will give away their position. Airborne Early Warning and Control System are used in such case to provide support.
 

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A stealth fighter would always be vulnerable against low frequency GBR. The stealth works great against high frequency radars which is used for targeting purpose.
I've heard this arguments a lot of time but don't know how accurate they are.
What I know is that its very very difficult to accurately track or even accurately locate an object in 3D space at a given instance with with low frequency radar let alone providing targeting solution for its successful engagement with missiles or guns. Low frequency radar provide poor resolution making difficult even to classify flying object at long range. More-ever low frequency radars can easily be jammed.
 

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