India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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Recent satellite images capture the new runway construction progress at #Skardu airbase along with its support & auxiliaries on site

Pak building infra in skardu silently to defend Baltistan
Started after Balakot airstrikes.
 

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Why people of Gilgit-Baltistan can not get world-class medical facility like Leh-Ladakh ? We are not only committed to free all Indians of Gilgit-Baltistan from Pakistani occupation but provide them world class healthcare services.


First AIMS will start working in Gilgit by 2024.


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I am guessing it was some kind of air launched decoy, like MALD. But I don't think we have that kind of toys in our inventory.
 

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I am guessing it was some kind of air launched decoy, like MALD. But I don't think we have that kind of toys in our inventory.
then what of toys do we have in our inventory?? He don't have, I have. I don't have, he have. This is no use. Let's think about how was it done even when it's clear now we have done such a thing. And I'll not go into technical details, spare me :) It's not in my forte........ I'm in this discussion for feeling the pulse ;)
 

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Lakshya drone fitted with a tracker emitting, Fake identity can easily do it.

Lakshya was always intended to be used for Surveillance but programme moved to slow. Perhaps L&T versions of Lakshya are upto mischief.
 

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Is this plane so old?
Interesting/ strange things going on...
IAF playing cat- mouse game or baiting PAF?
 

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Is this plane so old?
Interesting/ strange things going on...
IAF playing cat- mouse game or baiting PAF?
The b707 and the old one are different aircraft's, the old one used for covid relief

But abt b 707 flight path to POK, even MLAT max udpation period over 5 to 10 min interval if it was glitch it will correct it self , also the signal intelligence aircrafts ment to be ghost's so their transponder turned on must be intensional, also if it was a glitch the travel distance will be less than 70 km becoz that will be the max ping back time out, after aircraft not respond to ping back the fly path will be shown as nulled, for example remember f35 used in Israel air force used MLAT to navigate when inboard navigation system glicthed, also in current economic situation PAF not fool to deploy more AWACS and fighter caps just based on app error,
 

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That plane went inside Pakistani airspace with transponder on but closed it's transponder of when it was deep inside porki airspace which normal transport aircraft or civilian aircraft close it's transponder???
This thing asks thousand questions.
I am neither saying that 707 went into PAK territory nor denying it. I am just trying to put in place what ever documentation /evidence i could find on "How planes are tracked: by flight radar 24.
 

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Is this plane so old?
Interesting/ strange things going on...
IAF playing cat- mouse game or baiting PAF?
The one you quoted above is differen place... the one which flew in today is quadjet B707 and is indeed 1960 vintage. Search for it's registration number .

Meanwhile this aircraft have create a serious buzz on twitter...

As we have received a lot of questions from our users in India we want to clearify how Flightradar24 and our tracking works. This information is also available at http://fr24.com/how-it-works



And exactly my earlier raised point being proven by below

 

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Lakshya drone fitted with a tracker emitting, Fake identity can easily do it.

Lakshya was always intended to be used for Surveillance but programme moved to slow. Perhaps L&T versions of Lakshya are upto mischief.
There are other expendable target drones such as Ulka and Abhyas that could be launched from an aerial platform.
 

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Guys we Indians have gone completely nuts over this incident from the morning. People having absolutely no idea about IAF making complete outrageous claims out of thin air :facepalm:


Is this plane so old?
Interesting/ strange things going on...
IAF playing cat- mouse game or baiting PAF?
This is a regular transport plane of IAF, also known as Avro in military circles. Yes, it is very old and is used along with An-32 for men and material transport. Absolutely nothing interesting about it.

We are planning to replace it with C-295 purchase (god knows when it will be...).


I am guessing it was some kind of air launched decoy, like MALD. But I don't think we have that kind of toys in our inventory.
Why would be launch a decoy (assuming we have one)? Decoys are primarily used to confuse enemy radars and EW systems with providing a "false" target, and these decoys are often themselves fitted with EW packages.

Useful for distracting the enemy during a raid, like Balakot, absolutely useless in an empty/peacetime scenario.


Baba just tweeted this .. i am wondering now ...

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Absolutely false news, tho I understand baba is trying to stir up the browned salwars.
Flightradar24 is good for tracking commercial planes having their transponder on, they can be tracked with an accuracy of meters.
However, for military planes it is different. Military planes switch on their transponders when they are in civilian airspace for better visibility and navigation data to ATC. Once they switch off their transponder, this abrupt cut in data is often not processed correctly by Flightradar24, and if you switch it on again after some distance, Flightradar will just interpolate your data.

Last year I remember such confusion was created when we saw a C-17 crossing over Shakargarh bulge to go over J&K, what actually happened is that it landed at Pathankot.

But yeah, I am no expert in-flight tracking by Flightradar24, but lets use some grey matter -
  • Why the heck India will risk its critical asset like EW platform barging so deep in Pakistan? A rag-tag Abdul with a MANPAD could have shot it down?
  • If we accept that indeed a slow-moving Boeing 707 went 100km inside Pakistan, why would it keep its civilian transponder on? Pakistani ATCs can see it going just as we can.
  • Pakistan is literally in high-alert right now, what are the chances that a slow fat-bodied aircraft went that deep and returned safely?

Peace ✌
 

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Is this there in the forum ? These Pakistanis are not nut cases but are a victim of a mindset called "terrorism"... they think that they can terrorize 1.3 billion population into submission like old times.

 

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Guys we Indians have gone completely nuts over this incident from the morning. People having absolutely no idea about IAF making complete outrageous claims out of thin air :facepalm:




This is a regular transport plane of IAF, also known as Avro in military circles. Yes, it is very old and is used along with An-32 for men and material transport. Absolutely nothing interesting about it.

We are planning to replace it with C-295 purchase (god knows when it will be...).




Why would be launch a decoy (assuming we have one)? Decoys are primarily used to confuse enemy radars and EW systems with providing a "false" target, and these decoys are often themselves fitted with EW packages.

Useful for distracting the enemy during a raid, like Balakot, absolutely useless in an empty/peacetime scenario.




Absolutely false news, tho I understand baba is trying to stir up the browned salwars.
Flightradar24 is good for tracking commercial planes having their transponder on, they can be tracked with an accuracy of meters.
However, for military planes it is different. Military planes switch on their transponders when they are in civilian airspace for better visibility and navigation data to ATC. Once they switch off their transponder, this abrupt cut in data is often not processed correctly by Flightradar24, and if you switch it on again after some distance, Flightradar will just interpolate your data.

Last year I remember such confusion was created when we saw a C-17 crossing over Shakargarh bulge to go over J&K, what actually happened is that it landed at Pathankot.

But yeah, I am no expert in-flight tracking by Flightradar24, but lets use some grey matter -
  • Why the heck India will risk its critical asset like EW platform barging so deep in Pakistan? A rag-tag Abdul with a MANPAD could have shot it down?
  • If we accept that indeed a slow-moving Boeing 707 went 100km inside Pakistan, why would it keep its civilian transponder on? Pakistani ATCs can see it going just as we can.
  • Pakistan is literally in high-alert right now, what are the chances that a slow fat-bodied aircraft went that deep and returned safely?

Peace ✌
Elint platforms do these types of missions quite often . We did that in doklam with even our p8. But the thing is that they never crossed border's. We don't have the capacity to go 100km into pok. But a minor transgression can't be ruled out of about 20-30km . it takes times to send interceptor aircrafts to targets which definitely take more than 5-10 minutes . Not to mention timing is also very important. For example recently paf have been flying aircrafts frequently and when they lands that the window to go. Pakistani used this exact techniques when they retaliated last year. Again 100 km is idiotic to believe... But 20-30 km can't be ruled out. After all our drones flew regularly on the other side. Maybe army wanted terrorist camps exact locations to land expensive us made GPS guided artillery there.
 
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