India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

MonaLazy

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Still it is stupid to go for Turkish Shipyards. Better choose another partner. We should not give them this order at any cost. They will remain hateful towards India (Hindustan).
Money talks, BS walks.. we must continue to draw every country out that is friendly to our immediate westerly neighbor. & given that the only thing Pakistan offers is a made in China stainless steel katora for alms- they will soon be bereft of all companionship. Without the Kashmir/India bogey new dynamics will be introduced into their politico-military setup- like they are now having to answer for sky rocketing prices. Interesting times ahead!
 

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Stupid Pakistanis can’t even win in their Movies. Their movie Sherdil scene... In their movies the physics run on the basis of Asmaani Kitab’s writings thats why they both survived a Proximity fuse detonation SIMULTANEOUSLY:pound::facepalm:.
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@1:51😁.
Is that Rahool Ghandi on the right?
 

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Stupid Pakistanis can’t even win in their Movies. Their movie Sherdil scene... In their movies the physics run on the basis of Asmaani Kitab’s writings thats why they both survived a Proximity fuse detonation SIMULTANEOUSLY:pound::facepalm:.
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@1:51😁.
Haddd h bc , kuch bhi matlab kuch bhi
 

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Stupid Pakistanis can’t even win in their Movies. Their movie Sherdil scene... In their movies the physics run on the basis of Asmaani Kitab’s writings thats why they both survived a Proximity fuse detonation SIMULTANEOUSLY:pound::facepalm:.
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@1:51😁.
Lol
The R73 passes between the two JF17 blunders and hits the mirage,

Foking idiots the missile will fuse off probably taking down all three aircrafts with it
 

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The Sukhois with their R-77 missiles, which have a range that’s shorter than the AMRAAMs, were no match for the F-16s that had better air-to-air weapons


what are the ranges for both missile how bad are our ones?


 

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The Sukhois with their R-77 missiles, which have a range that’s shorter than the AMRAAMs, were no match for the F-16s that had better air-to-air weapons


what are the ranges for both missile how bad are our ones?


Hitjob article alert !

AMRAAM range is around 120km, although it is effective only if launched around 60km.
The R-77s range is around 80km, but only effective if launched around 40km.

We might have obtained K-77s which have a similar range to AMRAAM after Balakot.
We now have ASTRA on Su-30MKI which is reportedly better than R-77s and comparable to AMRAAM in range.

BUT

Range of the missile =/= how good it is. Different tactics of offense are created upon the missile behaviour and kinematics.
 

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Hitjob article alert !

AMRAAM range is around 120km, although it is effective only if launched around 60km.
The R-77s range is around 80km, but only effective if launched around 40km.

We might have obtained K-77s which have a similar range to AMRAAM after Balakot.
We now have ASTRA on Su-30MKI which is reportedly better than R-77s and comparable to AMRAAM in range.

BUT

Range of the missile =/= how good it is. Different tactics of offense are created upon the missile behaviour and kinematics.
@Abdus Salem killed you can try DCS to know how dogfight happens. It is obviously not equal to real life and is AI based simulation but is maybe the world’s best simulator game.
 

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R-77: 80km
AIM-120: 120km.
You don't fire the missile 120 KM away for a kill, each missile has its no escape zone(sure kill zone) which is far less than the actual range.

It depends on the tactics.

Below are the stats from f16.net to give some idea

Here are my calculations on NEZ
AIM-120A: 10-20 km(shot down helicopter at 10 km)
AIM-120B: around 30 km
AIM-120C: around 35 km depending on variant
AIM-120D:70 km(50 percent increased range)
Meteor; 90+ km(three times more the NEZ of AIM-120B)
R37E Archer:60 km=("can take on 12 G targets at 30 km, 60 km with 60+- radar")

print gives pessimistic picture in this case.
 

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While generalized comments are funny good and true I would really like some informed guy to take a look at paki society objectively. They have their strenghts and they have their hierarchy. They have their internal fractures from Pakjabis to Pashtuns etc. Their internal dynamics.

Similarities with India and differences and an optimum way to actually dismember them or at least keep them in a state of internal war like some African country.

I think pakis are quite bipolar in terms like they have superiority and inferiority complex at the same time.
 

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