India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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samsaptaka

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You can also say that what is point in wining 1971 war and having 93000 of enemy soldiers and you can't solve Kashmir issue. Also Pakistan is more powerful now since they now have atom bomb.
So J$K is formally part of India. Till now it was an autonomous state despite aceding to India in 1947.In India we want change in just 6 months but change takes years.
You did not get my point. It does not take 6 months to change RoE. Its more than that anyway since Art 370 was abolished. In any other state/UT if people start pelting stones on police/army for firing on terrorists, will they be let go scot free ? Before Art 370 we had to get permission of JnK govt, but now we need not, so why are we not shooting them stone pelters who are supporting terrorists ? We are treating these undeserving mlecchas with kid gloves, start shooting these stone pelters, and I guarantee they will melt away and the problem will be solved.
 

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You did not get my point. It does not take 6 months to change RoE. Its more than that anyway since Art 370 was abolished. In any other state/UT if people start pelting stones on police/army for firing on terrorists, will they be let go scot free ? Before Art 370 we had to get permission of JnK govt, but now we need not, so why are we not shooting them stone pelters who are supporting terrorists ? We are treating these undeserving mlecchas with kid gloves, start shooting these stone pelters, and I guarantee they will melt away and the problem will be solved.
if we get so much randirona for hardcore terrorist like burhan wani- imagine what would left/pseudo-seculars will do after dead stone pelter boy-toys

may be first deal with these left/P-S/lifafa randtv types then cull the cashmery boymobs
 

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IAF going full gear with top end weapons to exercise with USN... What message does US want to convey to china? Or did US wanted to know the operational capabilities of IAF? Was it IAF taking a high approach of readiness wrt recent LAC standoff...
Both ways maybe
Show of power + feasibility study of brahmos +( quenching curiosity of USN)
 

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Poor comparison. They make show pieces, toys. Most of their shit will not fire a full powered cartridge, the barrel strength is suspect. They can copy the firing mechanism and since polymer manufacturing is easy now, give it western shapes as well. But their guns cannot fire proper rounds.

This is why most serious fighters dump their Darra rifles in a second if they can get Iranian/Chinese or even older Russian rifles.

Variations in mm mean a gun can be rendered useless if a key part goes bad since parts from most makers are not interchangeable.
Maybe a range of guns are also available in those area from poor to excellent quality.
Depends upon how much one is willing to pay
 

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5 AK rifles, 7 pistols recovered near LoC in North Kashmir's Kupwara district
SRINAGAR: In a major success for the security forces deployed at Karnah along the Line of Control (LoC) in North Kashmir's Kupwara district, a huge recovery of weapons has been made, the army said on Monday. The recovery was made on Sunday evening.

The army said 'on the night of March 28 in a specific intelligence based joint operation by the Indian army and Jammu and Kashmir Police, five AK Rifles and seven pistols with a host of magazines and ammunition were recovered.'

 

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Imrand will lift the cotton import ban from India as requested by their commerce industry... Porkies sole reason for peace process is to stop the rott and grow their economy. We really handing them a life line
I don't think we are going to give them any life line. As of now its just words.
Even if we reduce our troop levels from the LoC and do some trade, its not going to help them so much. Sure, it won't be so much more suffering, but they will go through lot of pain.

I am of the opinion that Pakistan will continue to suffer due to water shortages because of their inaction till now. Lack of money is going to increase the suffering for a long time. They may continue a long time depending on just the weather gods mercy.
 

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Just putting down something which makes a little bit of sense to me according to current scenario.

In 1980s armenia won the war against azerbaijan & occupied the nagrono-karabkh area. The azerbaijan admin laid low after the war but talked about nagrono-karabkh being theirs in international forums all the way till recent times. Now the interesting thing is, since 2008 armenia was spending 4 billion dollars on military while azerbaijan was spending 24 billion. Now we all know what happened in 2020. This exact scenario may not apply to us but we can learn few stuff from here.
 

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Imrand will lift the cotton import ban from India as requested by their commerce industry... Porkies sole reason for peace process is to stop the rott and grow their economy. We really handing them a life line
We are not handing them anything.. they imposed an illogical, symbolic and emotional ban which they are themselves overturning. Economies don't work on emotion. If they had not over reacted to changes in Kashmir we would still be selling cotton despite CFVs on LoC. Besides, we will not give them anything for free. Commerce is a win-win.
 

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Imrand will lift the cotton import ban from India as requested by their commerce industry... Porkies sole reason for peace process is to stop the rott and grow their economy. We really handing them a life line
Imran also banned live saving drugs, airlines, cotton, tomatoes , food items, etc.
Now Pakis are paying heavy price for food and medicine. Even Pakistan didn't imported cheap kafir vaccine. They prefer costly useless chinki vaccines
 

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If he could have added one more point, all of his roast would have made much more sense.
-Because of Indo-Pacific, Pakstan is in danger of being removed from south asia grouping and added in West Asia, when pakistan becomes part of west asia it becomes a nobody along side giants like saudi and iran. hence paki desperate to open a dialogue with "South asian" neighbour india. (all hypothetical ofcourse).
-Another mistaken assumption is that paki are doing this for trade, nope. there will be another angle which is yet to fully present itself.
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Indo-Pak Relations To Resume | Ajeet Bharti Roast | Narendra Modi | Imran Khan | Cricket Ties

 

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IAF going full gear with top end weapons to exercise with USN... What message does US want to convey to china? Or did US wanted to know the operational capabilities of IAF? Was it IAF taking a high approach of readiness wrt recent LAC standoff...
Just more showbaazi.. neither India, nor China has the guts to shoot each other's soldiers dead.. or fire a damn artillery round at each other’s camp.. Until then, just enjoy the JALWA
 

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The peace process with Pakistan will never work because of one simple reason. Pakistan's identity crisis.

A nation state has a unique identity that determines all actions taken by the state. This identity comes from their history and especially the highest point in their history through which they view their future as a Nation.

For example Indians regard highest point in our history our Vedic age, where we influenced half the known world with our culture, knowledge and religion. We see future from the prism of our golden age and we are striving to replicate the same in future.

Pakistan being part of ancient vedic India has a similar history but because of their foundation of nation based purely on rejection of Dharma, they disregarded their true Sanatani past. They find their ancesty and history in Arabs, Central Asians, Persians, Afghans, Turks and even sometimes Mongolians who share little to no similarity with them. This creates major identity and history crisis.

So what is Pakistan's history? What is their high point? What was their mark on world?

Pakistan's history began in 1947 which is also their shining time as they devided a major civilization state and changed geography of subcontinent. This is their mark on the world.

So how do they see their future?

Pakistan sees future with prism of 1947 and want to replicate their golden achivement once again by dividing India again. Hence Kashmir is their national obsession. Kashmir isn't about territory as if it were the case loss of major east Pakistan in 1971, would have them rethink their ways but they haven't. They have accepted Bangladesh as an independent nation and even opened their embassy there. Meanwhile they can't even acknowledge Indian administered Kashmir. Why? Simply1947 prism and their itch to divide India again to revalidate their existence.

They don't have any fixed timeline. They are waiting for some major power to somehow wrestle a piece of land from India and donate to Pakistan just like UK did in 1947. In the meantime they will spread the violence against India to show the world and India that if their demand isn't met there won't be any peace.

So what about this peace initiative?

One word: Time

They need time to survive to witness their glory day. Rightnow Pakistan is in major economical, political and regional crisis. This has put doubts on the very survival of the Pakistani state. So they need some breathing room and thus the ruse of peace. This isn't new though, they play same hand of peace whenever they face any major internal crisis.

Conclusion

Pakistan will never change as doing it will go aginst their national identity. Being anti India is Pakistan's identity and therefore India will never get true peace with its western neighbour in foreseeable future.
good read. Are you like some kind of writer?
 
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